WOW: United Adds Nonstop Flights From The US To Singapore

I didn’t see this one coming!

In 2013, Singapore Airlines canceled the longest two flights in the world, from Newark and Los Angeles to Singapore. They were operating the flights with A340-500s, which they returned to Airbus as part of a larger deal. They didn’t have another plane which could operate the routes, so their only option was to cancel the route at that point.

That means Singapore Airlines doesn’t have any nonstop flights to the US — instead all of their flights to the US operate via other cities, including Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Moscow, Seoul, and Tokyo. That takes away their competitive advantage, given that someone could just as easily fly Cathay Pacific, Japan Airlines, ANA, etc., and still get from the US to Singapore in one stop.

Singapore Airlines said they would restart nonstop flights between the US and Singapore in 2018, once they take delivery of their first ultra-long range Airbus A350.

But it looks like they won’t be the first airline to add nonstop flights between the US and Singapore.

United Airlines has just announced that they will launch daily nonstop Boeing 787-9 flights between San Francisco and Singapore as of June 1, 2016. The flight will operate with the following schedule:

UA1 San Francisco to Singapore departing 11:25PM arriving 6:45AM (+2 days)
UA2 Singapore to San Francisco departing 8:45AM arriving 9:15AM

SFO-SIN

At 8,446 miles it’s quite a long journey, and is blocked at 16hr20min westbound and 15hr30min eastbound. This will make United the first airline to offer nonstop flights between San Francisco and Singapore, and the only airline to operate nonstop flights between the two countries as well. This will also be the longest flight operated by any US airline (beating Delta’s Atlanta to Johannesburg flight, which is just seven miles shorter).

United’s Boeing 787-9s feature a total of 252 seats, including 48 fully flat business class seats, 88 Economy Plus seats, and 116 economy seats.

Along with this new nonstop service, United is also terminating their flight between Tokyo Narita and Singapore as of June 2, 2016. It’s my understanding that they haven’t been doing well on that route for years, so with a nonstop route to Singapore they don’t have much reason to offer the connecting service anymore, especially since they also have codeshares with ANA between Tokyo and Singapore.

What I find especially interesting about this new route are the flight numbers. These are flights #1 & #2, which are the same flight numbers that Singapore Airlines uses for their flights between San Francisco and Hong Kong, though their flight goes via Hong Kong. While the two airlines are technically partners, it’s also known that they don’t exactly see eye-to-eye. So I wonder if the #1 & #2 flight numbers are simply a function of United’s pride in the route, or if they’re a jab at Singapore Airlines.

Singapore

Bottom line

This route makes perfect sense for United, and I’m actually sort of surprised we didn’t see it sooner. The 787 is fantastic for routes like this, which are potentially extremely high yield but not necessarily that high capacity. I’m sure this route will perform well. I’m curious when Singapore announces their nonstop flights between the US and Singapore.

What do you make of United’s new flight between San Francisco and Singapore?

(Tip of the hat to kluau88)

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Marty Guest

I fly SFO to SIN class C fairly frequently. The United direct flight is just slightly shorter than SIA and recently appears to be about $2000 more expensive! I really cannot see flying United 2-2-2 for $2000 more vs SIA 1-2-1. My impression, a SIA bulkhead seat is better than a United first...

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Benjamin Ng Guest

Hi Lucky, Been reading your blog for quite some time. Always enjoy your commentary, insights and adventure. Singapore Airlines have announced they are commencing their non-stop flight between Singapore and US earlier than initially announced. I think they are using the A350-900 which may have payload restrictions depending on the winds: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2016/06/15/singapore-air-adds-san-francisco-singapore-nonstop/85926262/ It's a same that UA removed their SIN-NRT path. I flew this just last year and was hoping for some reminiscence by getting the same route from YVR-ICN-SIN then SIN-NRT-YVR. Been even monitoring their flights availability on FlightAware. Anyways, it would be great to try ANA again. Do you think they'd likely re-instate their SIN-NRT flight in the future? A non-stop flight is nice but sometimes you want to break up the flight with a lay-over especially when these Asian airports are so nicely fitted. ICN offers free tours for layovers. Best Regards, Benjamin

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regina Guest

Why the slam? United is amazing in my books. B777 (economy) from Hkg to newark for 16 hours was perfectly fine for me. I'm from Singapore and all I can say is UA> SQ. All my flights with SIA whether long or short haul has been horrendous. I'm 167cm tall and slim but suffer from extreme bad neck and body aches each time I travel with SQ. Their head rest don't even function anymore, they don't maintain their planes at all. All yellow and sht. I have better experiences even on the oldest planes on QF and TG. Lastly, I travelled on 787s 8 hours to SYD (on Scoot) and boy, they are beautiful planes, definitely more comfortable despite being low cost than that sht SQ planes with all that bulk. Comfort and Price > Cabin Crew? I mean really..... why so shallow? SQ is overrated. Time to look forward.

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Ray B Guest

Not a chance I would fly on a 787 ever again. The windows don't dim adequately and the seats are among the worst in the industry with limited recline compared to others. There are no dreams on a Dreamliner.

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Evan Guest

Agree with RTBones - brilliant move by UA to seize the route that SIA abandoned. Now SIA has to play catch-up in 2018 and introduce better seats/prices. I can't see the logic of some of those who posted above who said they'd prefer SIA economy class vs UA BusinessFirst on this route. The UA seats are flatbeds, but not SIA economy or econ plus. I have a feeling we'll be seeing passengers with heart attacks after flying econ on this 18hr route from deep vein thrombosis. Maybe food is better on SIA, but if food from SFO is bad, I'd pack a good burrito from the Bay Area or wanton noodles to bring on the flight. If I fly this route from SIN-SFO, I'd pack some of my favorite Singapore dishes on board as I know UA's food quality is near rock bottom, esp. out of SIN. If this flight completely replaces all US to NRT flights, I will miss the flights from, say, ORD or IAD to NRT: they usually serve very good Japanese cuisine (if you're into Japanese food) from Michelin starred Japanese chefs on those flights. Can't agree more with Jared, if your'e visiting family, nothing beats the quickest flight home. Also, if you have lost baggages through transit, gone through troublesome security checks during transit, been woken up from deep sleep and told to deplane while in a groggy state etc, for me, a nonstop flight is far better than a 1-stop.

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