Surprising Details Emerge About PIA A320 Crash

On Friday a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) A320 crashed on approach to Karachi, which is incredibly tragic. The world is going through a tough enough time already, and to see so many lives lost in an accident like this is heartbreaking.

It’ll probably be months until a full investigation is completed, but there are some interesting details emerging, so I wanted to look at those, focusing on the facts rather than speculation.

Just as a reminder of the very basics:

  • The plane attempted to land in Karachi and executed a go around
  • After the first go around the crew reported that they “lost engines,” and then shortly thereafter declared a mayday

The plane was descending steep during the first approach

Here’s the ATC audio with some useful visualization of what happened during both the first and second landing attempt:

No emergency was declared during the first landing attempt, though the ATC audio on approach is interesting:

Pilot to ATC: Sir we are comfortable now and we are out of 3,500 for 3,000 established ILS 25L.
ATC to Pilot: Roger. Turn left heading 180.
Pilot to ATC: Sir, we are established in ILS 25L.
ATC to Pilot: You are five miles off? 3,000?
Pilot to ATC: Roger.
ATC to Pilot: Pakistan 8303, cleared to land 25L.

The issue here is that being at an altitude of 3,000 feet five miles out is very high. That means they’d have to descend 3,000 feet over 26,400 feet, which is unusually steep for a standard approach.

ATC tells the pilots to turn left heading 180, as he was intending to have them vector so they can lose altitude and have a more standard approach. But clearly the pilots seemed to think they could descend at such a fast rate.

We don’t yet know what caused such a steep descent, and also don’t know why the pilots decided to follow through with it rather than taking the vectors.

For what it’s worth, this was an experienced crew, in particular the captain — the captain had over 15,000 hours, while the first officer had over 3,000 hours.

The landing gear wasn’t lowered during the first approach

A PIA spokesperson has confirmed that the landing gear was not fully lowered prior to the first approach. We don’t know if it was partially lowered or just wasn’t lowered at all, and I’m sure the investigation will determine this. Generally speaking an alarm would go off if you’re at a low altitude without the gear extended (in the ATC audio above we hear some alarms going off, though I’m not sure what they’re for).

The crew didn’t communicate any emergency to air traffic control during the first approach, which would typically be standard if there was a known gear issue.

The plane’s engines made contact with the runway

For whatever reason, the plane’s engines made contact with the runway during that first approach (which turned into a go around). We know this because:

  • There are scrape marks on the runway, between 4,500 and 7,000 feet (that’s nearly half a mile)
  • A picture allegedly taken of the plane after the first go around shows dark marks along the bottom of the engines, towards the back

Those are the facts we know, but what we don’t know is:

  • What happened that caused the engines to impact the ground? If there was a gear problem, why did the crew get so close to touching down?
  • Was this an actual attempted belly landing, even though that intent wasn’t communicated to air traffic control?
  • How did the plane have enough power to get airborne again after engines scraped the runway for up to 2,500 feet, which would cause a massive amount of friction?
  • Engines were “lost” after the first go around, but what exactly caused that?

There were two survivors on the flight

When you see the wreckage of the crash it’s hard to imagine there would be any survivors, but there were.

The survivors were seated in seat 1C (in the first row, near the exit) and in seat 10C (also an emergency exit row).

CCTV footage that has since been released shows the plane descending rapidly with a nose-up attitude, so it’s not surprising that any survivors would be near the exits towards the front of the plane.

Bottom line

We’ll have to wait for the full investigation to see what happened, though I do find the above details to be interesting. The most surprising detail is that the plane’s engines both scraped the ground during the first go around attempt.

The big question revolves around why that happened — why did the plane have an unusual approach the first time around, what was going on with the gear etc.

With time I’m sure all of these things will be determined…

(Featured image courtesy of Anna Zvereva)

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Joe Guest

Sheer incompetence! Pilots with fake time and ratings? Very possible! Shame on this airline!

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Nasir Aziz (GeoRover) Guest

Great article and information, and thank you Ben for referencing my ATC Interpretation YouTube video.

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Leo Fuentes Guest

Crash kind of reminds me of the one with the American 757 jet that crashed near Cali Columbia back in 1994. The common thread is trying to do too much in a short period of time. PIA 8303 tried to bleed off altitude but could not bleed off the speed. They pulled the lever for the landing gear but failed to notice that the 3 green lights did not appear. As with the American jet, trying to reconfigure a different approach, didn’t recheck the new beacon code and didn’t retract the spoilers during their GPWA. Again the authorities need to take another good look at CRM. With this crew and with all ethnicities and religions in general, there maybe cultural considerations that affect behavior in times of stress and crisis. A TOGA is not a sign of weakness. It would seem to me a much less experienced crew would have aborted the initial approach into Karachi. Experience can sometimes breed invincibility, machismo, and being cavalier. A bad mixture for aviation.

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Leo Fuentes Guest

After careful review from data already provided, it would appear that the landing approach into Karachi was botched. Descent was initiated to late. The extremely high descent rate, at times reaching 7000 ft per minute is beyond acceptable standard procedure in anyone’s book. Now take into consideration that this particular aircraft has speed thresholds for setting flaps and lowering the landing gear when configuring the aircraft for landing like for all other aircraft in general. It seems obvious that after listening to the ATC recording that alarms were going off thus signaling that the aircraft had exceeded speed limits for flap deployment. Also of particular interest is that the airbus 320 will not allow the pilot to lower the landing gear above 260 knots. It is already known that the pilots of PIA 8303 ignored warnings and concerns about the planes high altitude and high speed on approach. So now u have a 75 ton aircraft making heavy contact with both engines on the runway beyond the acceptable limit of 3000 ft. way above acceptable touch down speed. Why, because the landing gear did not lower on there command due to above airspeed threshold, a protection feature to avoid possible structural damage. So I suspect this “belly landing” came as a complete shock to them. Plus coming in fast and touching down at mid rwy. left them the the poor decision to get airborne again with damaged engines. Had they kept the plane on the ground they most probably would have went beyond the rwy threshold because of no wheel braking. Who knows maybe the aircraft could of came to rest with minimal casualties, but definitively a lot more survivable. Don’t know what this experienced crew were thinking. Should of waved off landing and executed TOGA.

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Jair Guest

Here is a very good analysis by another Pilot. He has similar points as ATC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEYiiZdvNh4

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