United Boosts Boeing 787-10 Order, Converts 787-9: An Obvious Upgauge

Quite frankly, I’m really confused how this is only happening now, as this seems like the obvious choice…

United Airlines focuses on larger Dreamliner variant

United Airlines currently has an all-Boeing wide body fleet, including 767s, 777s, and 787s. The 767s and 777s will be retired eventually — 767s will likely leave the fleet before the 777s, which will definitely be around for a decade plus. But when it comes to fleet renewal, the airline is entirely reliant on 787s.

United flies all three variants of the 787 Dreamliner, and currently has 80 of them. As it stands, the Star Alliance carrier has 12 787-8s, 47 787-9s, and 21 787-10s. United has 141 787s on order, and up until now, they’ve all been for the 787-9 variant.

United has 140+ Boeing 787s on order

I’ve found that to be really odd — while the 787-9 is the best of those planes for ultra long haul economics, the 787-10 has amazing unit costs, and can cover United’s entire network to Europe and South America, and even many parts of North Asia.

That brings us to the latest update, as reported by The Air Current. United has just converted 56 of its 787-9 orders into 787-10s, and those deliveries are supposed to start as of 2028. With that update:

  • United now has 85 787-9s on order, which means the airline will eventually have 132 of these in its fleet, including the 47 existing planes
  • United now has 56 787-10s on order, which means the airline will eventually have 77 of these in its fleet, including the 21 existing planes

Will there be more to United’s long haul fleet renewal?

The 787-9 is an incredible aircraft for United’s ultra long haul network, as the airline operates (by far) the most ultra long haul flights of any US carrier. So there’s no denying that United needs a sizable fleet of those planes. However, there’s simply no reason to not focus on the 787-10 for the rest of the network, including for Europe and South America.

The incremental operating costs of the 787-10 over the 787-9 are minimal, while the capacity boost is significant. Even if United doesn’t necessarily want planes to be much higher capacity in terms of passenger count, these planes can just be configured in a premium layout, with a lot of business class and premium economy seats, since that’s all the rage nowadays (like United is doing with its new 787-9s, which have just 222 seats).

Bigger planes are good for more premium seats!

I wouldn’t be surprised if these 787-10s eventually replace the 767s that United currently flies to European destinations like Frankfurt (FRA) and London (LHR), since they seem good for those kinds of missions.

I think the big mystery remains whether United has other plans for its long haul fleet renewal, beyond the 787. In other words, will United order the Boeing 777X or Airbus A350 at some point?

  • The Boeing 777X seems unlikely, as it’s just “too much plane” for a US airline, at least based on their current strategies of having so many hubs
  • The Airbus A350 wouldn’t be surprising at some point, especially a plane like the Airbus A350-1000, given its great economics and range
Could United also look at the Airbus A350?

Bottom line

United Airlines has just converted 56 Boeing Dreamliner orders from the 787-9 to the 787-10. The airline had 141 787-9s on order, with (up until now) no plans to acquire 787-10s beyond the current 21 that are in the fleet. It makes perfect sense for United to focus more on the 787-10, given its extra capacity and great per-seat economics.

The 787-10 doesn’t have the range of the 787-9, but it’s sufficient for Europe, South America, and North Asia, which covers much of United’s network.

What do you make of United’s Dreamliner order update?

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iamhere Guest

What about not having as many different types of planes because of repairs and spare part costs

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Tim Dunn Diamond

sources inside UA indicate the company is moving forward w/ retiring the Pratt powered 777-200s, starting w/ the 200As, some of which are the first 777s delivered. By starting to retire some of the older aircraft, UA can harvest engine parts to support the Pratt powered 777-200ER fleet over the next 3-5 years. UA's domestic narrowbody strategy is likely to shrink. This order to more 787-10s conversion has to be seen within UA's recognition it has to replace capacity more than grow its fleet or network, a strategy change which I have said for years would be coming.

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Mary Guest

They need to upgrade to a more premium A350. The 787s are mid-body airplanes and are too narrow for passenger comfort on long-hauls, especially on Asia routes (16+ hours to Singapore in winter).

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This comes to mind Guest

What happens when the 777s go? There may be time to ponder that. But, for a longer route, their 772ERs can do it with 276 pax and the 773ERs with 350. The 789 has 222/257 pax. I'm guessing the have routes that need a 777 or 789 because of the distance. The 78X gives UA 318 seats, but can't do the >11,700km routes. Either go to a 777X or get ~330 pax on the A350, with a range that beats out, by far, any current UA jet. Seems simple you gain another model while losing the older one.

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Nino69 Guest

Hello Ben, how about you and your moderator give old Timmy D a time out. It’s is exhausting to all of us reading his nonsense & drivel anytime you post a something he can extol the virtues of DL or his caustic political views which is obvious from his comments on the MSP ICE story from yesterday. I know you won’t reply to this or even reply but, I’m done reading the cesspool this blog has become, the state of we are in in this country that has permeated this blog as well. I’m one voice but it’s time to take a stand on this nonsense.

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