Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) is unique in that it’s an airport where American, Delta, and United, all have a hub. It’s the only airport in the country where that’s the case. Over the years, we’ve seen the airlines take turns trying to beat out the competition, only to hemorrhage money, cut their losses, and go back to a more reasonable level of service.
Earlier I covered how Delta is investing in its lounge network at LAX, and wondered just how big the carrier’s plans at the airport were. Well, we’re now getting more of a sense of what this could look like.
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Delta’s plan to become LAX’s number one airline, by far
JonNYC has some insights on Delta’s latest strategy at LAX. It’s pretty clear that LAX is the new hub that Delta is most focused on. He shares a screenshot of the following text (I’m not sure who it is from, but I’d assume it’s a reliable source):
Delta has a once in a generation opportunity to accelerate leadership position at LAX. American, historically the leader, stepped back in recent years. AA has shed 10 points of corporate share and has a disruptive six-year terminal renovation underway. Meanwhile, Southwest is pulling back, JetBlue has shrunk to half its former size, and Alaska is shifting its focus to San Diego. United is the only remaining viable competitor but is limited by gate constraints and sub-par facilities for the foreseeable future.
That narrative is completely right, and there’s nothing there that I disagree with. So, what will Delta’s growth at LAX be centered around?
- Shortly, we’re going to see Delta launch flights to Hong Kong (HKG), and in 2027 we’re supposed to see a new route to Manila (MNL)
- Delta also reportedly plans to increase Shanghai (PVG) flights to daily, make Auckland (AKL) flights year-round, and also launch service to Seoul Incheon (ICN)
- The goal is also to have a much more comprehensive network within North America, including serving business markets, higher yield leisure markets, etc.; for example, we’re talking markets like LAX to Chicago (ORD)
- Given that the airline industry has evolved, one would assume that a primary motive is to also massively increase loyalty and credit card revenue in the local market

Delta’s goals are probably possible, but are they profitable?
I think everything Delta is suggesting is fair for the most part. Delta definitely has the best facility at LAX, and there’s no denying that the airline could increase its lead at LAX, though obviously the airport will never turn into a fortress hub.
The question isn’t whether Delta can grow its presence at LAX, but rather it’s a question of whether this is the best use of resources, and how profitable this could be in the long term.
As much as markets like Los Angeles and New York (JFK) sound sexy, they’re typically not actually very profitable for airlines. They’re expensive airports to operate out of, and airlines can’t scale their networks to turn them into fortress hubs. For that matter, coastal cities aren’t ideal for efficiently funneling connecting passengers (at least if you’re not connecting over an ocean).
American loves Charlotte (CLT) and Dallas (DFW), Delta loves Atlanta (ATL) and Detroit (DTW), United loves Denver (DEN) and Houston (IAH). These are all massive, super efficient, fortress hubs, with great geography. Furthermore, thanks to the dominance each airline has at those hubs, they’re also super lucrative for credit card revenue, due to the popularity of co-brand cards.
Great, so what’s my issue? Well, I just question what the end goal is here for Delta?
- Yipee, Delta adding Seoul Incheon flights is a nothing-burger, since joint venture partner Korean Air operates that route multiple times per day; Delta has a much higher cost structure, and if you’re going to tell me otherwise, please explain why Delta doesn’t fly from LAX to London (LHR)
- Delta is going to bleed money on its new Hong Kong route and Manila route when it launches, and I’d love for someone to argue that there’s any planet on which Delta flying year-round to Auckland is going to be profitable
- The amount of international competition among so many airlines at LAX greatly suppresses fares, and that’s why the “big three” have struggled with making LAX interesting
- From a loyalty and credit card perspective, I think Los Angeles is too scattered of a market in terms of consumer travel patterns for any airline to be truly dominant with credit card revenue
That’s my take, at least. Sure, Delta can grow there, but I don’t think Delta can get to the point where it says “yep, we’ve made LAX work, and now we’re printing money here.” Some will certainly argue that sometimes there’s a strategic interest here. But again, that’s also the case in Seattle (SEA), and to a lesser extent, Austin (AUS).

Bottom line
Delta really seems to be serious about growing its presence at LAX. We’ve seen the airline already announce some new long haul flying, and it sounds like there’s more on the way, along with a more comprehensive domestic network.
That’s all fair enough, and this growth is possible. My only concern is that I don’t think LAX is a market that can be “won.” Of course the “big three” US carriers all see the importance of having a presence there, but actually operating there profitably is challenging, given the amount of competition.
It just seems like all the long haul flying that Delta is looking at adding will be rather unprofitable, given that it’ll go head-to-head against foreign carriers with much lower cost structures, all while having to price attractively, and not actually having majority market share at the airport. This will definitely be something to watch…
What do you make of Delta’s LAX goals?
Regarding about people thinking delta would most likely lose money on lax-hkg and lax-mnl, and wanting to give lax-LHR another try despite failing the first 2 times can sense having more premium configured planes is a game changer for delta on certain long and expensive routes.
Back on delta’s first 2 tries flying lax-LHR it flew 767s and a339s with like 30 business class seats, not ideal for a premium market. Regarding northeast to Asia,...
Regarding about people thinking delta would most likely lose money on lax-hkg and lax-mnl, and wanting to give lax-LHR another try despite failing the first 2 times can sense having more premium configured planes is a game changer for delta on certain long and expensive routes.
Back on delta’s first 2 tries flying lax-LHR it flew 767s and a339s with like 30 business class seats, not ideal for a premium market. Regarding northeast to Asia, back when delta flew jfk-nrt from 2009-2016 it flew 777-200s with 37 business class seats and no premium economy and northwest inherited 747-400s that initially had angle flat 2-2 or 2-3-2 seats up front and no seatback tv in economy (later refitted to 48 reverse herringbone lie flat business class seats and seatback tv in economy). A few years ago on routes like lax-LHR and jfk-Asia the questions were “can we fill this profitably” considering cost of operating the flight, competition, partners (if any around), and in the case of jfk cost of crewing in a standalone a350 flight. With more premium configured aircraft the question becomes “how many seats up front can we sell” to generate high yields.
UA loves IAH and DEN, but it also loves ORD (and SFO). A lot. Even though AA also has a hub at ORD, they have been rapidly outpaced by UA over the past several years. And I think UA has more seats out of ORD than any other single airport.
That can't be possible because DEN is UA's largest hub.
Interesting they mentioned AA being constrained by terminal construction, as if Delta didn't just go through 10 years of that themselves. I'm happy to see the expansion, and T2/T3 are nice terminals, but they simply can't compete against international carriers and will have to lower prices to compete domestically against AA and United. The best thing about LAX is the consumer choice.
Plus the quality of TBIT that most in international carriers get to use. Might be the nicest terminal in the US.
Between JonNYC's scoops and his insights, he seems like the most prolific scoop-getter and prognosticator in the industry. Smart, insightful guy Jon is. He really leads the way.
"Alaska is shifting to San Diego" isn't even remotely relevant for LAX.
SD is further from LA than Philly is from NYC so the only relevant point is that Alaska is reducing LAX as a priority, nothing to do with SAN.
@ OxyTrojan -- Correct, I think the point is that Delta views Alaska as shifting capacity out of LAX and to SAN. Where the capacity is going isn't necessarily relevant, but the point is that they're going for another SoCal hub.
If delta can do LAX-ORD nonstop, then we have something to talk about. Without that, I can’t move over there from AA.
@ Lindsay -- You're actually getting that in just a few days:
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-los-angeles-chicago-route/
Enjoy yourself in Terminal 5, the Eighth Circle Of Hell, with the human dregs that fly F9.
Delta plans to relaunch LAX to LHR with their A350Ks. They had an exec interview with Business Traveler where they talked a lot about LAX growth plans.
Personally speaking, if you just the Delta One check-ins and other ground facilities at LAX, it definitely feels way more elevated than anything United or AA have put out. The only thing close to it in the US is the JFK Flagship check-in with the expedited security lane,...
Delta plans to relaunch LAX to LHR with their A350Ks. They had an exec interview with Business Traveler where they talked a lot about LAX growth plans.
Personally speaking, if you just the Delta One check-ins and other ground facilities at LAX, it definitely feels way more elevated than anything United or AA have put out. The only thing close to it in the US is the JFK Flagship check-in with the expedited security lane, but Delta's JFK and LAX check-ins put you right into the lounge after security, it's a very thoughtful design.
@ yoloswag420 -- There's absolutely no denying that Delta's ground experience is by far the best. How that translates into profits remains to be seen.
I'm not about to go all Tim Dunn here, but clearly Delta is seeing success with the upgraded experiences at LAX.
Nominally speaking, all of their LAX premium transcon and domestic D1 Hawaii fares have skyrocketed.
I imagine Delta is tapping into that "premium" LA traveler that enjoys that high end feeling ground experience.
I'm can't say whether or not that's going to work for them, but that seems to be what they're trying to...
I'm not about to go all Tim Dunn here, but clearly Delta is seeing success with the upgraded experiences at LAX.
Nominally speaking, all of their LAX premium transcon and domestic D1 Hawaii fares have skyrocketed.
I imagine Delta is tapping into that "premium" LA traveler that enjoys that high end feeling ground experience.
I'm can't say whether or not that's going to work for them, but that seems to be what they're trying to do, and it seems to have some level of viability.
Delta definitely seems to be winning in New York broadly, and JFK and LaGuardia specifically. New York suffers from all the same issues you describe (i.e. can't be a fortress hub). I would imagine they intend to do in LA what they did so successfully in New York.
@ 747-400 -- You're exactly right, they're hoping to do at LAX what they've done at JFK, with a similar percent market share. But I think LAX is much more difficult than JFK.
If you view EWR and JFK as distinct markets, keep in mind UA doesn't fly to JFK at all, AA is extremely weak, and B6 is competitive domestically, but lagging otherwise, and isn't really a very good competitor to DL.
So I...
@ 747-400 -- You're exactly right, they're hoping to do at LAX what they've done at JFK, with a similar percent market share. But I think LAX is much more difficult than JFK.
If you view EWR and JFK as distinct markets, keep in mind UA doesn't fly to JFK at all, AA is extremely weak, and B6 is competitive domestically, but lagging otherwise, and isn't really a very good competitor to DL.
So I think in terms of loyalty, DL has been able to saturate the NY market more than it can do in LA. The other thing to keep in mind is that I would guess that JFK isn't actually a very profitable hub for DL, and instead, the airline just values having a big presence in such an important city.
feel free to provide the data on profitability by hub - for any hub for any airline.
What Scott Kirby says is meaningless.
AA and DL beat UA by a country mile in loyalty program and credit card revenue.
TO no surprise, UA excludes that revenue from its models - but it can easily be applied to specific hubs and even markets.
NYC is a very profitable hub for DL just because of the...
feel free to provide the data on profitability by hub - for any hub for any airline.
What Scott Kirby says is meaningless.
AA and DL beat UA by a country mile in loyalty program and credit card revenue.
TO no surprise, UA excludes that revenue from its models - but it can easily be applied to specific hubs and even markets.
NYC is a very profitable hub for DL just because of the Amex relationship.
add in that DL serves a number of domestic markets where it has the only service from NYC and they get a premium that is far larger than UA's unique markets from NYC - many of which are flown on a seasonal basis on domestic configured aircraft or 757s.
do provide the data you use, Ben.
Otherwise accept that DL does well enough in NYC that it is willing to invest in LAX to do what it achieved in NYC.
And also tell us what other airlines have been doing for the past 48 years that they can't build hubs in competitive markets like DL has done in NYC, BOS, SEA and LAX
as I have been saying for years.
DL is all about executing on a continuous upward direction in the best timing in contrast to its competitors (well one anway) that are totally fixated on 0-100 with the certaity that the wall will be hit.
LAX has never been dominated because no airline has had the financial wherewithall to gain the share necessary to win over the market. DL is set to do that - and...
as I have been saying for years.
DL is all about executing on a continuous upward direction in the best timing in contrast to its competitors (well one anway) that are totally fixated on 0-100 with the certaity that the wall will be hit.
LAX has never been dominated because no airline has had the financial wherewithall to gain the share necessary to win over the market. DL is set to do that - and use its unique financial benefits from Amex, the refinery and the MRO - which its JV partners do not have, btw - to do what no US airline can do.
and the implication is that UA's hub up the road at SFO will be much less certain given that there will be a 2nd genuine global hub in California.
AA gave LAX the best shot but concentrated too much on China and HKG.
DL will have a much more global network.
this will be fun to watch
@ Tim Dunn -- "no airline has had the financial wherewithall to gain the share necessary to win over the market." To put that in plainer terms, you're saying that DL can afford to lose a lot of money at LAX for a long time?
We've seen this dance already. Next economic downturn, all gains will be lost, then UA or AA will fill in the void. Rinse and repeat.
you do realize that it is DL that has gained at the expense of AA over the past 15 years.
DL is now gunning for UA and DL will use its financial strength to win where UA has been the strongest.
Scotty just got checkmated.
Me: *(Putting "Delta Checkmates United in LAX" on my "Things Tim Dunn Was Wrong About Again" Bingo Card)
So DL is checkmating UA with:
- Transcon flights with so big a NPS hit, DL is pleading with their pilots to help make up the difference
- Being way late in installing next-gen Wifi, planned to begin in 2028, which may be further delayed after the only New Glenn launchpad was just destroyed
- Flights on 767-300s with poor reliability that need to be retired
- Narrowbody business seat plans that...
So DL is checkmating UA with:
- Transcon flights with so big a NPS hit, DL is pleading with their pilots to help make up the difference
- Being way late in installing next-gen Wifi, planned to begin in 2028, which may be further delayed after the only New Glenn launchpad was just destroyed
- Flights on 767-300s with poor reliability that need to be retired
- Narrowbody business seat plans that just got abandoned, putting DL at the end of the supply chain order bank for the same thing AA/UA is getting
- Completely eliminating any cabin service on shorter flights
- A350-1000s DL is only starting to get next year, vs UA's 787-9s with the elevated interior which UA has now (6 and counting)
Um, okay.
Don't forget Delta is also using their worse on-time rates, higher cancellation rates, and higher number of consumer complaints in 2026 to "checkmate" United.
But Delta's 0.35% better Mishandled Baggage Handling rate will put them over the top!
And I want to have intimate relations with a half-dozen hot bears on the flaming wreckage of Delta, but that apparently is just a pleasurable fantasy. Just like Delta dominating LAX.
Hot bears you say……?