Sad: Amex Business Platinum Devaluing 35% Pay With Points Rebate

Sad: Amex Business Platinum Devaluing 35% Pay With Points Rebate

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Well here’s a change that I’m not happy to see (thanks to Jay for flagging this)…

Amex Pay With Points 35% rebate will be more restrictive

As of September 18, 2025, the Amex Business Platinum is changing its 35% Pay With Points rebate, for the worse. Currently, the Pay With Points rebate can apply to first and business class tickets booked on any airline, or to a ticket booked in any class of service on a designated US airline (the same airline that a cardmember selects for their airline fee credit).

With this change, the Pay With Points rebate will no longer apply to first and business class tickets on any airline, but instead, will only apply to your designated US airline.

The Amex Pay With Points rebate is changing

For those who have no clue what I’m talking about, let me provide a bit more detail. Amex’s Pay With Points feature lets you book flights using Membership Rewards points, typically at the rate of 1.0 cents of value per point. That’s not a great deal, at least based on my valuation of points.

But this is where the Amex Business Platinum has historically been useful. Cardmembers have received a 35% rebate on Pay With Points bookings for select airfare, which has offered up to 1.54 cents of value per point. This doesn’t just apply to the points earned on this specific card, but instead, applies to all Membership Rewards points linked to your account (so you could redeem all your Amex points this way, including those earned on other cards).

The major limitation was that you could only receive that rebate for first or business class airfare, or for your designated airline. Now that’s being changed, so that it only applies to the designated airline. I frequently used Amex points for first and business class tickets on international carriers, so I’m sad to see this change.

On the plus side, at least this feature is sticking around on the designated airline. So if you fly one US carrier frequently, you can still get good value with Amex points this way.

The Amex Pay With Points 35% rebate is changing

The timing of this change is likely no coincidence

It’s interesting to see the timing of this announcement. Yesterday, we learned about plans for a Chase Sapphire Reserve refresh, and the introduction of the new Chase Sapphire Reserve Business Card.

One of the major changes we’re seeing over there is that Ultimate Rewards points earned with the Chase Sapphire Reserve will no longer consistently be redeemable for 1.5 cents toward a Chase Travel purchase. That will be lowered to 1.0 cents, and then we’ll see the introduction of the Points Boost feature, whereby there will be select opportunities to redeem at a better rate.

I can’t imagine it’s a coincidence that Amex’s announcement comes just one day after Chase’s announcement. At least that makes sense, competitively. If this is truly a coincidence, then that’s quite something.

The Amex 35% rebate will still work on a dedicated airline

Bottom line

As of September 18, 2025, the Amex Pay With Points 35% rebate with the Amex Business Platinum will be changed. The rebate will no longer apply to first and business class tickets on all airlines, and will instead just apply for tickets on one designated US airline. I’m sad to see this change, as it’s a benefit I frequently used.

What do you make of this Amex Business Platinum 35% Pay With Points rebate being adjusted?

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  1. FlCL Guest

    This must be the major change that they were planning to announce.

  2. René Guest

    Brutal. On top of Chase UR points nuked for cruises? Beyond brutal!

  3. CSue Guest

    The CSR 1.5x and Platinum 1.35x (used to be 1.5 and already devalued) are the only things useful to me other than lounge access. Maybe all these cards have run out of gas except for people who travel constantly and it's worth it for lounge access alone. We make 3-4 round trips a year.

    I will admit I don't use the feature that much. I mostly transfer to airlines. But I put spend on the cards know that I could. Seems like that would be exactly what they want?

  4. Dave Guest

    I used this quite often. Probably going to nuke the card when the renewal comes up this fall.

  5. Ed Guest

    Incredible how greedy these issuers are getting right as we walk into a global recession

    1. Santos Guest

      Makes perfect sense. Small-medium business spending is going to contract before personal spending does. So they are preemptively hedging on increased demand. Financial institutions don't play fair, they play smart. Or try to, at least.

  6. JustinB Diamond

    Wow very disappointing I loved having this as a backup when I couldn’t find a good transfer partner redemption for a trip. Biggest reason I’ve held onto this card for years

  7. Christian Guest

    Sad? You truly have a breathtaking gift for understatement at times. This is impressively awful. In one move, Amex is destroying the vast majority of the non-coupon book value of the Business Platinum card. With this move there's almost no reason to keep the card for huge swaths of cardholders. I've already cancelled my and my wife's personal Platinum cards. Now the Business Platinum will be out too.

    1. Ratt Guest

      All the blogsters will underplay this... (re: they won't bite the hand that feeds them. Reverse is true as well - Over hype / pump anything that will benefit them. It's ALL business $$$ my friend)

  8. Petex Guest

    That sucks. With the difficult redemption environment i was basically using the 35% pwp as a backup plan.

    4x gold card bonus spend stacked with 35% pwp = easy 5.4 cents per dollar... plus the airline miles.

    1. Harold Guest

      your math is incorrect FYI. 35% rebate equates to 1.54cpp. so if you're earning 4x points thats 6.2% return

    2. Martin Guest

      that how I always thought of it. now definitely cancelling.

  9. Parag Guest

    This one hurt. Used this quite frequently.
    The other coincidence is timing of this right next to rumor of higher tier AMEX card being floated the other day.

  10. Getting Screwed By The Man Guest

    Almost all cards and loyalty programs are utter tosh now.

  11. Powerball Winner Guest

    and Dell credit also dropping from $200 every 6 months to $150 for the full year effective July 1st. Cancelling my Biz Plat before August renewal.

  12. CF Crost Guest

    All the no coincidence blogger announcementemts feel like a coordinated effort to numb our expectations.

  13. AndyAndy Guest

    Ugh. This kills the last major value point for the card. With miles transfers nerfed by "dynamic" award pricing, the rebate was the last way to easily and reliably get >1cpp in value.

  14. Anthony Diamond

    In all honestly, this week seems to mark the end of an era in terms of a style of credit card spend and redeem. Basically to get any outside value, you have to redeem via travel partners, or earn through credit card portals.

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FlCL Guest

This must be the major change that they were planning to announce.

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Martin Guest

that how I always thought of it. now definitely cancelling.

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René Guest

Brutal. On top of Chase UR points nuked for cruises? Beyond brutal!

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