What Confuses People Most About The Marriott & Starwood Integration

Marriott integrated their three loyalty programs on August 18, 2018. That means that Marriott Rewards, Ritz-Carlton Rewards, and Starwood Preferred Guest became one. Sort of.

The integration didn’t go as smoothly as many of us were hoping, and for that matter even three weeks later there are still major issues and lots of looming questions.

However, there’s one thing that seems to confuse people more than any other. The question is something along the lines of: if Marriott integrated their loyalty programs, why do they continue to use Starwood branding for the program (like with the SPG credit card, spg.com, being able to keep your SPG account, etc.) alongside of Marriott branding?

Amex even released a brand new credit card a couple of weeks ago that has SPG branding rather than Marriott branding, so why are they doing that?

The simple answer is that the programs have been integrated, but only sort of. That’s to say that as of August 18, Marriott Rewards and Starwood Preferred Guest aligned policies and started using the same systems. In other words, the programs were fully aligned on the back-end, while they were only partially integrated on the front-end.

For the rest of 2018, the two programs’ branding will continue to co-exist. Starwood Preferred Guest points have all been converted into points that are equivalent in value to Marriott Rewards points, even though you can technically still accrue them in the SPG program.

Are those now Starpoints, Marriott points? Starmarriottpoints? Yes, it’s confusing.

So for the remainder of 2018 the programs will continue to co-exist in terms of branding. Then around the beginning of 2019, branding will be revealed for the combined loyalty program. Since technology and everything else has already been aligned, all this means is that credit cards and websites will be rebranded.

We don’t yet know what the new program will be called. Presumably it will be called Marriott [Something].” It seems to me like they’re not keeping the Marriott Rewards name, but rather are coming up with something new. I say this because I’d assume if their intent was to keep Marriott Rewards branding they would have just said that right away.

I’m not sure if they’re thinking of coming up with a new name because they had some hot-shot consultants come up with a brilliantly creative new name like “World of Marriott,” or if they’re doing it to avoid SPG members feeling disenfranchised, thinking they’d feel more included if they were part of a new program, rather than having their program taken away in favor of Marriott Rewards.

Anyone want to guess what Marriott’s new loyalty program will be called?

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Andy Guest

I had Ambassador Service and a personal Ambassador listed on the SPG App & Desktop version before program integration . After integration - no Ambassador contact information on-line or on App!!! How is this serving their best/most loyal members? Also, the new SPG app pales in comparison to the old one. It's like they went back in time !

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Ric Guest

They should hire back all the managers that ran SPG and left after the merger. New program should not have Marriott name in it and the umbrella corporate name should also change from Marriott International - too much confusion - is it Marriott the hotel or Marriott the holding company?? RE SPG/ME integration F*Up.....so now there all these different rules re the breakfast benefit, yet on the benefits page it says simply - varies by brand - where are we supposed to know what the officer is ahead of time - I can see myself arguing with the poor front desk clerk! Just checked out of a US Sheraton property. They have a lounge that offers AM & PM services; yet I was given vouchers for full breakfast in the restaurant ? This doesn't "fit" with the new rules - so...??? BTW I was SPG Platinum Lifetime w/ Ambassador and now Loyalty Program Platinum Premier Elite + Ambassador.

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Kexpfan Guest

On the plus side, my 100k Marriwood points were credited as soon as I hit the spend requirement. I'll be a lowly platinum next year, willing to try this new program a year or two but I don't have high hopes

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Mark Stein Member

I have been an SPG Loyalist since Sheraton Club International (before SPG). Although I should be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier at the end of the year, I have 892 nights and 14 years Platinum, this whole "conversion-nightmare" is so rocky that my confidence with the program is very badly shaken. In order to have an "Ace in my pocket" I purchased the Amex Hilton Aspire card with complimentary Diamond status. $450.00 seems like a lot of money but it is really not. I have already used $200.00 of the airline credit, will use the free night certificate at the Conrad in HK for a $350.00 savings, will use at least $100 of the resort credit in Thailand, save $95.00 for the "cheap" Hilton card for a total of $745.00 savings plus Diamond status and 100,000 points. Some decisions in life are easy. So, Marriott: If you wish to mess up an outstanding program like SPG, as least there is a back door.

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Michael Guest

Appalling is the only adjective I use to describe this integration as I encountered numerous problems that remain mostly unresolved. I estimate that I have spent more than 10 hours collectively phone calling and writing emails to get Marriott's attention. The main issue I have now is that I "attempted" a transfer of points to UAL. What a fiasco. Points were immediately removed from my Marriott account. However, they seem to have gone into cyberspace as UAL has no record of receiving them. It is day 14 now since I attempted the transfer and no one has a clue what happened and, worse, there is no record of them exiting my Marriott account. All I get when I inquire is that they are aware of the issue and then ask me to be patient. Well, that holds water for only so long and I would be ready to throw in the towel except too many points are at stake. My advice---do NOT attempt transfer to an airline w/o running a test first. At least then if you run into the same issue I am experiencing, you have only sacrificed a small amount of points.

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