Mandarin Oriental Or Holiday Inn?

Over the years I’ve stayed at most luxury hotel brands, from Four Seasons to Ritz-Carlton to Aman to Taj to Shangri-La. While I generally tend to stick to the luxury brands belonging to the major chains (mostly Park Hyatt and St. Regis, since they belong to my preferred loyalty programs), I do like trying out new hotels.

I had actually never stayed at a Mandarin Oriental before, though I’ve always heard good things. The “symbol” of the Mandarin Oriental brand is the “fan,” and they have a marketing campaign based around that.

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They have celebrities say what they’re “fans” of, and then finish with them saying “I’m a fan of Mandarin Oriental.”

Here’s one by Bryan Ferry, which sounds a bit more like a eulogy than anything else, but…

Anyway, we had a one night layover in Kuala Lumpur yesterday, and I decided to book the Mandarin Oriental through American Express Fine Hotels + Resorts®. It was a steal, as it cost ~$140 for the one night stay, including complimentary breakfast, a room upgrade, late check-out, and a free lunch or dinner. If you value the breakfast and dinner anywhere close to face value, that makes the stay “free.”

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So I came in expecting it to be about as nice as a Holiday Inn based on the price… and my expectations were met.

Is there anything luxurious about this room?

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Was that desk chair ever in style?

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And has a phone like that been produced in the past 20 years?

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On the plus side, our room did have a nice view of the Petronas Towers. Well, sort of. People recommend staying here for a view of the Petronas Towers. Personally I think the hotel is too close to the towers to have a good view, as you really have to bend your neck to see anything but the base of them.

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Personally I’d rather stay at the Grand Hyatt Kuala Lumpur, which is far enough from the Petronas Towers so you can actually appreciate the view.

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I guess this all comes back to the post Matt wrote in September, entitled “Hotel Branding Is A Complete Mystery.” It notes the huge variance in hotel quality within a brand, and how that makes it difficult to set expectations as a consumer.

In this instance I can see both sides:

  • Kuala Lumpur as a hotel market can’t sustain very high rates, so it probably just doesn’t make sense for the hotel to renovate.
  • Ultimately is it better for a brand to have a presence in a market than not, even if the presence isn’t up to the brand standard?
  • Hotel groups for the most part simply have management contracts with the individual hotels, so in reality as long as they’re getting a percent of revenue and aren’t pissing people off, they’re quite happy regardless of what condition the hotel is in.

Bottom line

Hotel branding continues to fascinate me. Did I get what I paid for? Yes, absolutely, and more. Was the hotel what I was expecting? Based on the pictures, yes, more or less. Based on my expectations of the Mandarin Oriental brand as such? No way.

Does this hotel leave me with a favorable impression of the Mandarin Oriental brand? Not really. I think the hotel would be just as well suited as a Holiday Inn as a Mandarin Oriental. But I get it.

How do you feel about properties like this? Do sub-par properties tarnish your view of a brand, or are you just happy when your preferred brand has a presence in a city, even if it’s not up to global standards?

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Kieran Guest

I don't get all the shade thrown here Lucky - you state you practically got the room for free given the rate inclusions, but then bitch about it. Seems a perfectly adequate room to me, and given the rate paid and benefits received, a real steal. Seem silly to expect a lot more, for such little payment.

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craig b Guest

I've stayed at two MO's. The Atlanta location is getting a little old. Gym was just okay (I thought it would be better b/c I believe this is a hotel/residence). Didn't get a chance to eat at the restaurants...room was fine. Nice large bathroom. Service was nice. Also stayed at Vegas location. The Lobby Bar is something special. Gym is very good. My hotel of choice is Shangri-La, but alas, there are no locations in America. The Toronto S-L is my home hotel.

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Jan New Member

The MO Kuala Lumpur is not the best MO hotel indeed (especially since it is one of the older properties). I stayed there last year, but found the stay to be ok, especially given the fact that the room rates are not very expensive. But compare it to a Holiday Inn is really pretentious (sorry, Ben :-)). I still have to find a Holiday Inn with such a stunning infinity pool, a marble clad lobby, fine dining venues, and oversized bedrooms. MO is currently renovating a lot of its older properties (Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Munich) to get them back in line with the ultraluxurious character of the brand. By the way, Ben, since I guess you fancy luxury hotels as much as I do: you must try their new beach resort in Bodrum: by far the best beach resort in the Mediterranean (amazing beyond words). And I am heading to their property in Marrakech soon, which also looks stunning.

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TxFoodGeek Guest

I stayed quite a bit at the MO KL, and have to agree that it does seem a bit outdated. With that being said, the price point for a property in the heart of KLCC was the draw for me. That, and the concierge lounge felt like the exclusive perk you would expect from a high-end property.

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Roberto Guest

Hear hear with the other MO-fans! My first stay was at the then still Oriental Singapore before Mandarin&Oriemtal combined and i made it my goal to stay at every one, entry level rooms, clubrooms and suites. What sets them apart as others said is the service, housekeeping smilingg and greeting you, willing to take requests in account, wait staff remembering your favorites and willing to accomodate, other hotel employees greeting you and wishing you well. In terms of club service willing to help, extend and provide their signature "MOments of delight" service. Once my mom was in conversation with the manageress of MO-SIN club about having a bit of a cramps after trying authentic chinese reflexology at people's park complex singapore. When we returned later from shopping at Takashimaya and Crystal Jade Golden Palace, there was a note on the desk with 3 flasks of tiger balm special neck&shoulder rub with compliments and well wishes by the club staff...... We stayed loyal after experiencing this Moment of delight ever since to both MO and the tigerbalm :) Their service is what really stands out as an Asian hotel. But actually Lucky could you be so kind in adding to your goals, try all flagship properties of MO, Penninsula, Raffles, Shangri-La, Shilla and other asian premium hotel chains....

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