Lufthansa Will Base Four A350s In Frankfurt

Lufthansa Will Base Four A350s In Frankfurt

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Some Lufthansa Airbus A350s will be getting a new home, at least for the winter.

Lufthansa will move A350s to Frankfurt

For the upcoming winter schedule, Lufthansa will be basing four A350-900s at its Frankfurt hub. This comprises a quarter of the carrier’s current 16-strong A350 fleet.

To keep its fleet strategy as efficient as possible, Lufthansa operates certain aircraft out of certain bases, and historically the A350 fleet has been operated entirely out of Munich.

That’s changing for the winter schedule, as Lufthansa intends to operate A350s on select routes out of Frankfurt.

The following Frankfurt routes will be operated by A350s between November 1, 2020 and March 27, 2021:

  • LH430/431 between Frankfurt and Chicago (currently operated by 747-8)
  • LH456/457 between Frankfurt and Los Angeles (currently operated by 747-8)

On top of that, between December 2, 2020, and March 27, 2021, the following Frankfurt route will be operated by A350s:

  • LH716/717 between Frankfurt and Tokyo Haneda (currently operated by A340-300)

It’s noted that the four A350s being used for these routes are coming out of storage, so nothing is being taken away from the Munich base. Lufthansa’s winter schedule shows the airline operating just seven A350s out of Munich.

Lufthansa will operate four A350s out of Frankfurt

These flights will be operated by Munich based crews

Understandably Lufthansa will use Munich based pilots and flight attendants for these routes:

  • Since all A350s are ordinarily based out of Munich, there are no A350 pilots in Frankfurt
  • Flight attendants are also trained on specific aircraft types, and Frankfurt based flight attendants aren’t trained on A350s

I’m curious about the logistics of this, though — will crews deadhead from Frankfurt to Munich before working long haul flights same day, or…?

Munich based crews will be operating these Frankfurt A350 flights

What does this mean for passengers?

There are some fairly significant implications here for passengers:

  • With Lufthansa downgrading Chicago and Los Angeles routes from 747-8s to A350-900s, it means that there will be no more first class to the US for the entire winter schedule
  • In business class, premium economy, and economy, the experience is roughly comparable
  • For the Tokyo Haneda flight, the A350-900 has the benefit of being a bit wider, quieter, and more modern than the A340-300, but otherwise the types of products available onboard are similar

Lufthansa won’t offer first class to the US in winter

Bottom line

Lufthansa will be basing four A350s out of Frankfurt for the winter schedule, which will be used for flights to Chicago, Los Angeles, and Tokyo. The biggest implications here are for US flights, as this spells the end of Lufthansa first class to the US for the winter season.

I certainly can’t blame Lufthansa for this decision, since presumably the carrier’s forecast for these routes is grim for the winter. I’ll be curious to see if this A350 assignment is temporary, or if we eventually see A350s based in Frankfurt permanently.

What do you make of Lufthansa basing A350s out of Frankfurt?

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  1. aeroguy Guest

    In terms of crew utilization, I’d imagine they swap them at the US destination and extend trip time. For instance: MUC-ORD-FRA-ORD-MUC - pending how it works out for frequency on both.

  2. Reaper Guest

    "although traveling as a couple I agree that rows of two seats are nicer."

    That really is a benefit in economy of several older (and increasingly retired) wide-body planes for 2 travelers.

    Sadly, I think that the A330 is the only long(ish)-haul plane still in production with 2 seats at the window in economy.

  3. TLS Member

    The A340's are so noisy vs. the A350 that's there's no comparison. I'll fly the A350 over any other plane currently available simply due to the much lower noise level. I also find it much more comfortable in every class compared to the 787.

    @Kyle - The seats are still really roomy in economy though, although traveling as a couple I agree that rows of two seats are nicer.

  4. Cameron Guest

    The beginning of the end for the B747 -800 how incredibly sad

  5. GCMP Guest

    The flights from Munich to Frankfurt are practically shuttles and are full of LH crews already. Pilots in first/business, cabin crew in rear cabin. So I'd guess the same as shutelling for these flights.

  6. JVM Guest

    @Flo I don't think so. The 748 is LH's "new flagship aircraft". They said it's not going anywhere. And they're relatively new and quite efficient (for a 4-engined jet at least). LH itself helped Boeing design the -8i.

  7. Kyle Guest

    I wouldn't say the A350 at 3-3-3 compares favorably to the 2-4-2 A340

  8. Flo Guest

    And so begins the slow and silent death of the 748.

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aeroguy Guest

In terms of crew utilization, I’d imagine they swap them at the US destination and extend trip time. For instance: MUC-ORD-FRA-ORD-MUC - pending how it works out for frequency on both.

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Reaper Guest

"although traveling as a couple I agree that rows of two seats are nicer." That really is a benefit in economy of several older (and increasingly retired) wide-body planes for 2 travelers. Sadly, I think that the A330 is the only long(ish)-haul plane still in production with 2 seats at the window in economy.

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TLS Member

The A340's are so noisy vs. the A350 that's there's no comparison. I'll fly the A350 over any other plane currently available simply due to the much lower noise level. I also find it much more comfortable in every class compared to the 787. @Kyle - The seats are still really roomy in economy though, although traveling as a couple I agree that rows of two seats are nicer.

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