US Claims Iran Shot Down 737, Killing 176 People

Yesterday a Ukraine International Airlines Boeing 737-800 bound from Tehran to Kiev crashed after takeoff, as the plane lost radar contact while passing through 8,000 feet.

All 176 people onboard died, including the 167 passengers and nine crew.

The timing of this sure seemed suspicious, given escalating tensions between the US and Iran, and given that just hours earlier Iran had taken action against US military bases in Iraq.

What Iran initially claimed

Air crash investigations take time, though Iran’s response was bizarre:

  • They immediately claimed that the plane had a technical fault that caused the crash
  • That’s despite the fact that the pilots didn’t make a mayday call, and also despite the fact that data recorded for the flight showed a very normal climb, before the plane suddenly disappeared from radar; if there were a technical fault you’d think the plane would show inconsistent airspeed, would descend, etc.
  • Iran is refusing to hand over black boxes to foreign officials

So their story didn’t make sense. In fairness, I wasn’t assuming that Iran would intentionally shoot down this plane, since that’s not exactly an attack on the US. 82 passengers on the flight were Iranian, 63 were Canadian, and 11 were Ukrainian, with the balance being from other countries. If it was shot down, my assumption was that it was some sort of mistake.

US officials claim Iran shot down the plane

According to anonymous sources of CBS News, some US officials are now confident that the Ukraine 737-800 was shot down by Iran. The US picked up on signals of a radar being turned on, followed by two surface-to-air missiles being launched. Shortly thereafter the plane exploded.

So far US officials have just spoken on the condition of anonymity, though President Trump has said that “it was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood and somebody could have made a mistake.”

As a precaution, some airlines have canceled and diverted flights bound for Tehran.

Bottom line

An investigation here will be challenging, given the lack of cooperation between the US/Boeing and Iran. While investigations always take a long time, Iran immediately claiming a technical fault despite the lack of an alert from the pilots, and despite the lack of data supporting something like that, made many of us wonder.

The US explanation seems much more plausible, unfortunately…

While there are talks of the situation between the US and Iran already deescalating, it’s sad that there are 176 innocent people who lost their lives as part of this conflict, at least indirectly.

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Mh Diamond

Phil, Goes to show you're not a good judge of credibility.

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JojoBarnes Guest

@chris you own our mistakes? When did the US apologise for shooting down an IranAir plane over Iran? You question why Iran is shooting your bases in Iraq, and the simple reason is because you have bases in Iraq. How would America feel if Iran opened a military base in Canada?

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Chris Guest

@Ryan - I don’t mind you calling me a retard, coming from an American I take it as a compliment. Hopefully the Middle East will now chuck out all the Americans in the region. Wherever they go they leave a mess behind.

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ryan Gold

@Chris, seek treatment for your TDS. Also maybe crack open a history book ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 ) we own our mistakes. Iran shot down a plane leaving their airport with their missiles (sold to them from Russia) and they and they alone are to blame for this. Iran attacked our embassy, has been attacking ships with mines, oil facilities in Saudi, and funding terrorism for decades...yeah until just recently the whole ME has been a big peace party and the Iranian leaders have been so well behaved :/. It requires a special level of retard to think that because we took out a cosmic douche who has murdered thousands of his own people and many others in the region we somehow have any blame for Iran shooting a plane leaving their own airport because they were firing missiles at our bases.

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Chris Guest

I see Iran admitted that it accidentally shot down this aircraft. If not for Donald Trump 176 innocent people would still be alive today. For all its faults I respect Iran for owning up to their mistake. If America accidentally shot down this plane I’m pretty sure they would have done their level best to cover it up.

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