While details are limited as of now, a LATAM jet had a pretty major accident on takeoff this afternoon, and sadly there are some casualties.
Continue reading: LATAM A320neo Has Takeoff Accident In Lima, Collides With Vehicle
Share your questions, experiences, and thoughts below.
@Lucky - I don't think you get how fast this happened from a cockpit POV.
As I pilot, I can tell you that after you are cleared for takeoff, you are focused on flying the plane. The A320 was at V1 (rotating) when the vehicle started crossing. There would have been ZERO chance for the pilot to avoid the collision.
That leaves only two options;
Option 1. the vehicle did not have permission to cross and went on their own, thinking they had time to get across the runway before the plane reached them. (Ben - think Brightline and cars!)
Option 2. The controller gave the vehicle permission to cross after clearing the jet for takeoff.
My instinct is the vehicle saw other vehicles crossing and just 'went for it'.
My daughter's flight from Miami to Lima landed MOMENTS before this. Now she's stuck, as they were supposed to fly to Cusco. Any cheap airport hotels recommended? I don't thing our Sapphire insurance will pay, as only the RT flight to Lima was put on the Sapphire - they put the next flight on a different card (how could she be MY daughter!?)
As someone who has been to Peru 6 times and has family in Lima, it's clear that this is typical Lima driver behavior!
But on a serious note, I'm glad that no one was killed or seriously injured. That could have ended badly. It amazes me how the driver of the vehicle didn't bother to look and see if a plane was coming down the runway. I get that the pilot may not have been able to see (let alone stop) in time, but there's no excuse for a driver at an active airport to make such a mistake.
The photos that I saw show the passengers without luggage. I think when the passengers see fire, they run without getting their luggage. When they don't see fire, they get their luggage.
OMG. Saturday 11/5 we flew from LIM to CUZ on LATAM 2011 operated by CC-BHB.
(I know it's just a coincidence but still....)
Anyone who takes their luggage off during an evacuation should have their luggage destroyed.
Humanity is so effed up. Your plane was involved in a major accident and then you have the audacity of taking a selfie for social media? Jezzz.
Feeling helpless and powerless are among the most intolerable feelings one can experience. We make jokes about tragedies, rubberneck to examine post motor vehicle accident debris and, yes, now we take selfies and post on social media after we walk away from anb airline accident. As hard as it is to fathom….they will live with the nightmares, smell, sounds and sensations of near death, too. Just sayin’…
Remarkable airmanship on the part of the flight deck crew. Well done to the flight attendants who initiated evacuation on aircraft right. This could've been much worse.
And to tell friends & family that they are safe. Can't think of a more efficient way to communicate without answering dozen phone calls, listening to countless voicemail, and replying to hundred of texts.
Maybe flying too much paid First Class makes you misery and alone with no friends. Right Endre-nezer Scrooge?
Humanity are so effed up, people only see the negative sides they want or believe in propaganda news machines. Jezzz
What a tragic incident. Another human error related aviation.
Condolence to those affected.
An ironic dark humor accident.
The good news, fire trucks was already on the scene.
The bad news, they collided with a fire truck.
Technology to help prevent runway incursions already exists. It always come down to human factor. ATC, Pilot, vehicle, at least one party likely made an error. As with all the redundancy, I believe it's a series of events that led to the accident.
As someone that has evacuated an aircraft onto a runway and told to run, I have first-hand experience.
It might be worthwhile for others to state if they have ever been in a similar situation, before spouting off negative comments about people who grab their luggage. You have zero idea what is going through one's mind at that time.
Totally agree! And the worst thing is the age of the two idiots. You expect and can overlook that selfie behaviour in teens/young adults. But in fully grown and supposedly 'mature' adults?! One word: Embarrassing.
Ya know what's even worse? Judgmental f*cks who don't know the whole story?
HTF do you know if this isn't their way of trying to show their loved ones that they're okay? Or dealing with the stress of the situation by being able to show their story instead of just telling it.
In short: whoTF are you to judge? No one. Get over yourself.
Unfortunately that is not true. There have been multiple evacuations involving fire where passengers collected their cabin luggage. For example the Sukhoi Superjet crash in Moscow. 41 people were trapped and died in the flames, yet there were people carrying their cabin bags out.
100% the driver’s fault no matter who was granted clearance, authority, whatever. Emergency vehicles must clear the intersection and never assume that a vehicle is going to stop for them. The fact that this entirely avoidable accident involves a PLANE… was he expecting the pilot to yield?
I’m surprised not to see many passengers with their carry on bags. Probably why most survived. Every second matters.
Instead of engaging in gossip for clicks, you may want to revisit your focus, and consider if becoming more like princeoftravel (aka OMAAT before all this BS) would be a worthwhile option.
Currently OMAAT feels like a male LH flight attendant with a coffee too much.
Pilots can't anticipate fire trucks ramming into their wing on takeoff. Pilots have hundreds of things to worry about during takeoff but firetrucks crashing into them isn't something pilots plan for- yes ... worry about bird strikes, fires, engine performance/failure, weather, tire blowouts, other planes in our paths, etc. Obviously the driver of the fire truck had more opportunity to see the situation and react even if the traffic controller f'd up (which we don't know yet) - the pilot had just rotated and committed to take off so his options were slim to none. Plane brakes / airbrakes at takeoff "rotation: speeds of 130-165 MPH were essentially useless. Kudos to Airbus, Boeing and the air certification agencies for designing and approving aircraft to withstand amazing destruction without loss of life. Query what the design standards were for firetruck certification. Sympathy goes to the families of the deceased firemen.
Too bad princeoftravel is more TPG before all selling out to corporate and not even close to OMAAT. (both do still have great contents)
You want gossip and tabloid go to Gary. Always a smile whenever I link National Enquirer as a 'thought leader' in news.
You want authenticity, which maybe is like having a chat with a LH flight attendant with a coffee (or Krug) too much, you come here.
Riiiight. Because they took the photo just to notify their loved ones. You are free to believe that. And Eskimo, how many more times must I tell you dumbfck that you constantly confuse me with that other Endre who had/has a profile pic? Now, eff off.
Ok I get it now.
You need to use profanity to overcompensate your small package and empty wallet. Jealous that the other Endre still had money to fly Paid First Class. You're the poor bastard who is misery and alone with no friends and no money.
Just because no one loves you and confuse you with someone else doesn't mean other people don't have loved ones.
Overcompensating doesn't solve your problems, you just need to get a new name that doesn't make you feel small. My advice, avoid common names like Karen or John. Many people with those names exhibit the same low self esteem and crave attention just like you.
Lol princeoftravel, from his own video he doesn't seem to hold qualms delaying Air France flight, affecting everyone on that flight, so he can get "his dream flight/seats". Or incentivize people to use mail forwarding service, and lie about US residency on CC application to open US credit card for sign up bonuses (and his referal link. Yeah, hard pass on princeoftravel.
Most likely a communications error….either between the Local (tower) controller and ground controller….or between the aircraft and ATC or the Ground vehicles and ATC. The tape recordings should quickly be able to solve this