American recently took delivery of their first Boeing 787-9 featuring a premium economy cabin, which they'll soon begin flying internationally. However, as of now they're just selling the premium economy cabin as economy, since it will take them a while to be fully set up to sell premium economy. There's a lot they still have…
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Yeah but BA will now earn Avois at business vs first. Also the A bucket was both a revenue FC fare and an upgrade bucket so it will affect confirming upgrades on domestic flights with miles/SWUs. The good is very much out weighed by the bad on this IMO
Will BA be changing the Tier Point and Avios earning schedule for AA domestic 2 cabin service to reflect earning at the First Class rate?
Or is this an act by AA to close down a lucrative loop hole by assigning First Class on a 2 cabin service as de facto Business Class.
Paying 20k Avios for a midcon in AA F, however, is... not so bad. Or 15k Avios for F for up to 1150 miles. That's JFK-MIA or SEA-LAX/PHX. It's a viable option if you're cash-poor/Avios (or transfer point) rich, the coach fare is a bit dear, and you get things like extra checked baggage tossed in for free.
Also means that when you but intl J, you will stay in J on the domestic connection on a 3 class plane; right now, you get F on a 321 or 77W transcontinental.
Ryan is 100% right, more bad than good.
Given that Avios are fairly useless, 75k r/t for domestic AA isnt THAT bad. I value them at 1.1 cpm and AA at 1.4 cpm, so using 75k Avios is equivalent to using 59k AA.
@Ben,
If AA is still calling these flights First Class despite allocating Business Class inventory, why do you think BA is going to allow redemption at the Business Class rate?
Please explain how you've come to that conclusion.
So does this mean the transcon flights LAX/SFO-JFK will be 50K Avios in F? As well as the MIA-LAX on the 77W?
They are freeing up the X fare code for comp/500mi upgrades to First, because those will now use R, which has been for comp/500mi upgrades to Business.
I guess I won't be earning BA Gold anymore. For me this Change is 116% bad news, no good news.
Might be good news for redeemers but for the BA and QF status runners this is immensely bad news. Not sure if I'll maintain OWE post-2017.
Absolutely appalling news sadly, no more 210TP for domestic 2 class flights over 2k miles 🙁 🙁
Yeah, this is awful if you're a BA TP runner, even more so with the changes to AA's program which make "cheap" status there impossible. Guess I'm going to have to redeem points for F on INTL legs to get free access to that sweet sweet champagne.
BA card members now will win a LOT less miles and tier point. The news is horrible
I have made use of the 210 tier points to help me attain status with BA. I am certain these changes mean that going forward, I will only get 140 Tier Points towards status. I think Ba, AA and the OneWorld alliance are doing everything in their power to lose me as a customer. From next year, I am just going to shop on the basis of fares.
Yes, currently the only way for me to have qualified BA Gold Guest List was with all the 210 or better Tier Point earnings on AA. For example, JFK to LAX 40 tier points to Philly, then 210 to LAX or through Phoenix. Will quickly book the last of these runs on the "old" class. This of all the devaluations over the past few years, is absolutely the worst for any BA member who also traveled in the States.
Thanks Lucky for the heads up and warning. That is appreciated.