No Surprise: Cathay Pacific Will Shrink Economy Seats

File this under “it was only a matter of time.”

When the 777 was first introduced, nine seats per row in economy was the standard configuration. However, as airlines have become more profit-driven, they’ve realized that they can squeeze 10 seats per row into economy and get away with it. Ultimately consumers mostly aren’t willing to pay extra for the additional seat width, so from the airlines’ perspective it’s a no brainer to squeeze as many seats as possible onto each plane.

As a result, over the years we’ve seen the standard go from nine seats per row to 10 seats per row. Interestingly even some Gulf carriers renowned for their excellent products, like Emirates, have had this configuration for years.

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Emirates 777 economy

For a while there were about a handful of airlines holding out, though that’s slowly changing. Even Skytrax 5-star airlines like Qatar Airways and EVA Air have recently announced that they’ll install 10 seats per row in 777 economy.

As it stands, Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines are among the only major airlines to still offer nine seats per row in 777 economy. Coincidentally, both carriers aren’t performing especially well financially, in particular Cathay Pacific.

Well, Cathay Pacific has just confirmed that they plan on installing 10 seats per row in their 777 economy. While a timeline hasn’t yet been given, here’s what the airline’s chief has just said, per the South China Morning Post:

Chief executive Ivan Chu Kwok-leung said in an exclusive interview: “If you look at the Boeing 777s, which everybody uses from the Gulf to the US to European carriers and ourselves, the standard is 3-4-3. I think we are moving towards that stage, it’s very clear.”

An additional row of seats could add up to 35 more economy seats on regional aircraft and at least 17 more on long-haul flights, adding nearly 1.1 million extra seats per year to the 70 Boeings in the Cathay fleet. The move amounts to 4 per cent more seats a year.

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Cathay Pacific 777

The airline suggests they’re making this move because Hong Kong Airport has no more available slots and they want more seats, but such an elaborate explanation isn’t really needed. The reality is that they can’t command a price premium for the added comfort (in reality they can only command a premium because of their dominance in Hong Kong), and their configurations are really inefficient.

As the article references, take for example the Hong Kong to Vancouver route. Cathay Pacific operates two daily frequencies with different 777 configurations — one configuration has 340 seats, while the other configuration has 275 seats. Meanwhile Air Canada operates the same route with the same plane, except their configuration has 450 seats. Cathay Pacific is at quite a disadvantage there!

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Air Canada 777 economy

On the plus side, Cathay Pacific’s chief has promised to maintain the 32″ of pitch they offer in economy on the plane, which is better than most competitors.

Bottom line

While this is bad news for passengers, especially on longhaul flights, unfortunately this was inevitable. The average passenger simply isn’t willing to pay a premium for slightly wider seats, which is why over time 10-abreast 777 economy seating has shifted from the exception to the norm.

Now we just have to wonder how much longer Singapore Airlines will wait before updating their configuration…

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Singapore Airlines 777 economy

How soon do you think Singapore Airlines will give in and go 10 abreast on the 777?

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Fred M Guest

Air NZ went to 10 abreast on 777-300s and most Economy reviews bleat about the lack of room and narrow aisles while crew hate them as they have trouble with trolleys. And there's always the dickhead who waits for service to start before trying to get to the loo. Air NZ countered with the book-three-seats Skycouch and take-up of that is apparently high. After three horribly cramped sectors, on one I was reseated with an empty centre seat after there was no way two fat guys could ride together without violence. I had a final leg on one of their old 747-400s, now gone, which was much roomier. Air NZ once set a standard with 34 inches pitch but, yeah, that was then. Now I ride Emirates and, somehow, 3-4-3 but it feels more spacious. Make all CEOs and cabin service chiefs ride long hauls on their fleets - 32 hours door to door on Emirates, say, at gunpoint, if necessary, and I guarantee a few rows would soon come out.

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Joe Guest

I think what a lot of the "it was only a matter of time" comments miss, is that this is a very special change. Airline economy seats have been configured the way they are for decades for a particular reason: the width of the average male's shoulders is 18 inches. Source: https://www.fas.harvard.edu/~loebinfo/loebinfo/Proportions/humanfigure.html The untenable 10 abreast 777 config reduces this to around 17 inches. Ponder this for a moment. Airlines operating this ridiculous layout are giving an inch less to average male passengers than the widest point on that passenger's body. There is literally no way for two adjacent average males to sit together than to twist their bodies. This is what all the fuss is about re. 777 10 abreast. It's not a matter of some incremental, reasonable change that given time, passengers can adapt to. It's about literally reducing a passenger's personal space to less than one of their body's dimensions, a change that they can never properly adapt to unless they lop off part of their body. :P

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Adam Guest

@Credit "I bet most people would be with the unwashed masses if they had to pay fares from their own pocket. Business class is full of posers who are all flying on someone elses dime and pretend they are all rich and generous in real life. No wonder trump is doing so well. So many mini mes of that asshole in this country." Go back to your communist USSR. Oh wait, it collapsed, because of communism. Now people like you are why Czech Republic had to spend 40 years under oppression, did you spend 40 years poor and under oppression, wait no. You spent it in the US under luxury and freedom. Yet, you threaten freedom. Go back to North Korea! On other news, I think that 10 seats abreast is mostly becoming popular, because the average economy customer, sees all airlines as the same and doesn't see that there are subtle or not so subtle differences between airlines. Luckily premium economy kind of substitutes old economy

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Adam Guest

@Credit "I bet most people would be with the unwashed masses if they had to pay fares from their own pocket. Business class is full of posers who are all flying on someone elses dime and pretend they are all rich and generous in real life. No wonder trump is doing so well. So many mini mes of that asshole in this country." Go back to your communist USSR. Oh wait, it collapsed, because of communism. Now people like you are why Czech Republic had to spend 40 years under oppression, did you spend 40 years poor and under oppression, wait no. You spent it in the US under luxury and freedom. Yet, you threaten freedom. Go back to North Korea! On other news, I think that 10 seats abreast is mostly becoming popular, because the average economy customer, sees all airlines as the same and doesn't see that there are subtle or not so subtle differences between airlines. Luckily premium economy kind of substitutes old economy

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Anthony Diamond

Delta's 767 fleet (which they fly from North America to Europe) has eight in the back. One of the best ways to fly economy internationally. BA is also not bad in the back.

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