Major: Boeing Loses Bombardier Trade Dispute

This is a major development.

In October we learned of a trade dispute between the US and Canada, or more specifically, between Boeing and Bombardier. Boeing had filed a complaint with the US Commerce Department, asserting that Bombardier was getting illegal subsidies from the Canadian government and dumping its product (specifically, the CSeries aircraft) into the US market. Delta has 75 of these aircraft on order, and clearly Boeing wasn’t happy about that, even though they don’t have a direct competitor for the plane.

The Trump administration sided with Boeing, and proposed a significant tariff on the plane, of up to 300%. Not surprisingly, Delta’s CEO said that his airline still planned to take delivery of the CSeries aircraft, and that they didn’t plan on paying the tariffs. It looked like they were considering some creative solutions, like handing over some of the planes to Aeromexico, which they own a stake in, while they figured things out.

There’s now a major update on this front. The US International Trade Commission head this case today. The US ITC voted unanimously in Bombardier’s favor.

https://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/956972711980478466

According to reports, the meeting took all of two minutes, and the voting itself took less than five seconds.

https://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/956990429194522624

It’s my understanding that this can still be appealed, though I think the chances of success are pretty low at this point. This is a huge win for US airlines and consumers.

Not surprisingly, the concerned parties have already issued statements about this decision. Bombardier issued the following statement:

Today’s decision is a victory for innovation, competition, and the rule of law.

The C Series is the most innovative and efficient new aircraft in a generation. Its development and production represent thousands of jobs in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.

Boeing issued the following statement:

We will not stand by as Bombardier’s illegal business practices continue to harm American workers and the aerospace industry they support.

Delta issued the following statement (as the first US airline scheduled to take delivery of the CSeries):

Delta is pleased by the U.S. International Trade Commission’s ruling rejecting Boeing’s anticompetitive attempt to deny U.S. airlines and the U.S. traveling public access to the state-of-the-art 110-seat CS100 aircraft when Boeing offers no viable alternative. The airline looks forward to introducing the innovative CS100 to its fleet for the benefit of Delta’s employees, customers and shareowners.

What I find funny about these statements is that if you replaced the term “CSeries” with “Gulf Carriers,” then Boeing sounds exactly like Delta usually does, while Delta sounds like an airline that’s actually rational. Sort of funny how that works. 😉

As a consumer I’m thrilled about this development. The CSeries is a joy to fly, and Boeing doesn’t have a real competitor for the plane type. With big tariffs it’s unlikely we would have seen the CSeries flying in the US anytime soon, so… yay!


Cabin of the Swiss CSeries

Also, Boeing comes out of this looking horribly, and having lost a lot of money. Canada retaliated against the US for this attempted tariff by canceling their order for 18 Super Hornet fighter jets, which were supposed to go to the Royal Canadian Air Force. This deal was estimated to be worth up to 6.4 billion USD for Boeing.

What do you make of the US ITC’s decision?

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/wto-says-boeing-hurt-in-airbus-case-paving-way-for-eu-sanctions

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Vince Guest

@Bob The only post makes sense. Thank you, Bob.

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yyc Member

@RG, I think we need to ask Boeing to take subsidies just like Bombardier - that will make it a level playing field. Oh wait, they already do...in billions of dollars in subsidies/tax breaks from the city of Seattle, state of Washington and the federal government. Does that make it fair for you?

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Bob New Member

@Jamie, The C-Series is a serious leap in capabilities over the 717. - Newer, far more efficient wing resulting in a better service ceiling. Remember, the 717's wing was more or less unchanged from earlier McD designs due to cash flow issues affecting R&D. - Newer, far more efficient engines. - Super long range. This will allow various iterations of the C-Series to eventually fly routes like Denver- Hawaii. Imagine super long, thin routes that are currently out of reach of most narrowbodies, or aren't economical to operate. The C-Series will be able to do them. This will add an immense amount of flexibility to airline operations, linking city pairs (especially small ones) that would have never had direct flights before. Where the 717 possibly wins is in it's inherent McD virtues - it's built like tank and its engines can really take abuse from the quick turnarounds like Hawaiian does. Whether the C-Series will eventually show us that type of raw ruggedness time will tell. I'd like to think that a newer plane would be just as hardy, of not more so. That's just what comes to mind. I'm sure others know more.

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Potato Guest

@Rob If you want people starting to play fairly, maybe Washington state should stop giving tax incentives to Boeing. Maybe Boeing should not have accepted the >$900 million in tax incentives from the state of South Carolina. Maybe the US government should stop tailoring defence contracts that leave only Boeing as the winner. That's why Boeing's complaining is so ridiculous. They use them same unfair practices and should have STFU.

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