Bad Club Lounge Etiquette — At What Point Do You Say Something?

I stay at the Sheraton Frankfurt Airport quite frequently, as it’s by far my favorite Frankfurt Airport hotel. The location can’t be beat as it’s connected to the terminal, the tower rooms are nice, and the club lounge has a great spread that’s available for several hours in the evenings.

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Sheraton Frankfurt Airport Towers Room

As I’ve mentioned a million times before, I like to get work done in club lounges, since it’s a nice change of scenery from hotel rooms. When you live in hotels and spend 8-10 hours awake in hotels working, you go crazy sitting in a room all day. Beyond that, club lounges usually have water and coffee, which helps.

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Sheraton Frankfurt Airport Club Lounge

One thing I find interesting is that every single time I’ve stayed at the Sheraton Frankfurt Airport there are some US military people in the lounge. Let me start by saying that I appreciate their service, of course. The only reason I know they’re military, though, is because how loudly they talk about it. They’ll frequently have conversations that everyone can hear, though it doesn’t really bother or faze me much. I even noted this back when I reviewed the property in 2012.

I stayed at the hotel last night, and there were four guys that were even more crass than I’ve experienced in the past. They were sitting in the lounge drinking beers, and both what they were talking about and how loudly they were talking left me shaking my head. For starters, every second word was “f&$%.” And it’s not like I was eavesdropping, but rather I was seated a few tables away from them and couldn’t not hear what they were saying.

One guy talked about how he recently bought his wife a new pair of t!t$.

Another guy was saying how a “f%&^ing corporal” dared give him lip and that he can “go f%&^ himself and suck a d*&$.”

I’m not easily offended — you don’t have to look far beyond the comments section of this blog to realize that. 😉

But at a certain point it’s just embarrassing. It’s embarrassing anyone would act that way in public. And it’s especially embarrassing that this is the impression they’re giving to others of the US.

While I’m usually pretty outspoken, I stayed quiet in this case. I don’t know if they were headed abroad or home, but gave them the benefit of the doubt. At the same time I really wanted to tell them that I thought it was inappropriate how they were behaving in front of others (including children), and especially that the impression they were giving others of the US was embarrassing.

But I restrained myself and didn’t.

Not necessarily specific to this situation, but at what point do you call other people out for bad club lounge etiquette? Do you ever? If so, how do you approach it?

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JustSaying Guest

@Tony C I appreciate the comment. What I would say to all the civilians without military service is that I actually have more faith in "all" our military members in this situation and if you respectfully let them know you are uncomfortable because of their language they will respond in a positive way. I say this "only" because this is a club not a dive bar where I do think the response could be quite different. I remember being on a plane a few years back where a troop "in uniform" was obviously intoxicated and spewing venom into the aisles of the plane as he off boarded........it took a simple "soldier, what unit are you in" and he became stone cold sober and courteous instantly........some military will disagree with this approach and some civilians will disagree with this approach but I have a lot of faith in our troops and if challenged to do the "right thing" I believe the odds on compliance are extremely high...........

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Tony C Guest

Oh man. Like the military folks above, had I been there, I most certainly would have gone the direct route and addressed the group. It helps that I'm in a drill sgt unit. Justsaying- I see where you're coming from sir, and I agree with its sentiment. A stern "Who's the highest ranking here? Come with me, let's have a chat," will do wonders, I am certain. But the vast majority of travelers in lounges will not be current or former military, and may not be comfortable dealing with a group of inebriated service members. In those cases, the offended civilian should bring the property manager to address the misbehaving individuals. It reduces risk and liabilty to all parties, and will almost always lead to a quieter situation. Travel safe everyone. -TC

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LTCAnnie Guest

@James What unit are you in that gives you this impression?

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Larry Guest

@Janet It potentially would be demeaning if said to a female, and possibly even sexual harassment depending on context. It likely would not be homophobic. Trying to demean a person by suggesting that person have sex with a member of the same gender, thus implying that doing so is wrong or makes them weak or contemptible, is homophobic. By the way, your form of argument is highly disingenuous, and a classic internet type of argument. There is nothing in my posts to suggest at all what I would have said if I had understood Ben to be saying the corporal was female. I simply said that what was reportedly said was homophobic and unacceptable. The suggestion that a similar comment made to a different person might also be offensive is both nonresponsive to what I said and also does nothing to change the fact that what was said was homophobic.

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Janet D Guest

@Larry is barking up the wrong tree. Are you saying that his comment would be less offensive if the CO was a female? Those comments are offensive whether you are male or female, it has nothing to do with homophobia. @Lucky - I wouldn't really pay attention to their military status, I would confront them (or not) as if they were any other businessmen or leisure travelers in the lounge. If that meant a direct confrontation, I might throw in some polite conversation about where they are stationed/traveling as an icebreaker and to let them know you recognize them as US military - it might put them on notice/remind them that they are representing their country. @david22 - Definitely, I would have said something immediately to the parent of the sneezing child, and notified the lounge attendant which food trays need to be replaced.

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