American’s 777-300ER Business Class & A321T First Class — Is It The Same Seat?

Reverse herringbone seats are among my favorite business class hard product out there. While I do prefer a window seat in an Apex Suite configuration, I appreciate the fact that all reverse herringbone seats on a given plane are virtually identical, meaning everyone gets a great experience. Meanwhile with Apex Suites, those getting non-window seats are really getting the short end of the stick (and that’s most passengers).

American’s 777-300ERs were the first new planes in American’s fleet to get reverse herringbone seats back in 2013. They selected the Cirrus style seat, which is the same business class seat you’ll find on Cathay Pacific. I’ve always liked this product.


American’s 777-300ER business class

One innovative way in which American has used this seat is on their A321Ts, which they fly between New York and Los Angeles/San Francisco. These planes are in a three cabin configuration, and while both first and business class have flat beds, first class has reverse herringbone seats with direct aisle access from every seat.


American’s A321T first class

I knew American was using a modified reverse herringbone seat for their A321, given space constraints. However, during a recent flight from New York to Los Angeles I couldn’t help but feel like the seat was really tight. It’s still a privilege to fly in these seats, but as I tried to go to sleep, I found myself feeling constrained and barely being able to move.


American’s A321T first class seat

I wondered whether I was just misremembering American’s 777-300ER business class seat, or if it was just as tight. It has actually been a couple of years since I’ve flown American’s 777-300ER business class, though I’m finally back in the seat (and writing this post live from inflight Wi-Fi).


American’s 777-300ER business class seat 

The difference between the two seats is significant. Really significant. When I fully reclined the 777-300ER business class seat I found myself easily being able to move around, not at all feeling constrained, and generally feeling like I was back in one of my favorite business class seats in the world.

I’m not sure if pictures really do justice to the difference, but below is the area for your feet in the A321 reverse herringbone seat. As you’ll see, when you recline the seat it’s a generally narrow area, and there’s not much room to bend your knees, not to mention your feet are really wedged in there.


American A321 first class seat

The 777-300ER seat, on the other hand, has a much bigger ottoman, and more importantly, isn’t as restrictive in terms of the height of the panel above it. But what I really love about the seat is how easy it is to bend my knees. Notice the exposed storage compartment to the right of the seat? When reclined, it’s a great place for me to bend my knees and get really comfortable.


American’s 777-300ER business class seat 

I think everyone will notice things like this differently, depending on how they sleep. If you sleep on your back or stomach, chances are you won’t notice must of a difference. If you’re like me and are a side sleeper, and on top of that sleep with your knees bent and in a near fetal position, the subtle differences between these two seats are significant.

So I was happy to find that American’s 777-300ER business class seat is every bit as comfortable as I remember, and that it’s just the A321 first class seat that’s less comfortable (to me).

If you’ve flown the two products, did you notice much of a difference?

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Gerald Guest

Frankly, as a side sleeper, I was never a huge fan of these reverse herringbone seats as I also toss and turn alot when I doze off, so I will always hit my knees when I do that. My best sleep has still been on TK's now-widely-considered-dated and non-industry leading J seats that had nothing restricting my knees no matter how often I turn - as long as i'm not stuck in the middle seat on the 777 lol...

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747always Guest

It stands to reason that you will have less space in a narrow body viz a viz a wide body, with a few exceptions of course.

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Frank Abernathy Guest

What do you expect out of a narrow body aircraft? The product is just fine. I just flew both, round trip. SFO-JFK-SFO and JFK-LHR, BCN-JFK. I am 6'0 and had no problems. I would rethink the dissecting of this product given that each aircraft has it's own spatial constraints as required by the FAA. Just be thankful it's better than any other product in the U.S. domestic market.

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David Diamond

Does anyone actually sleep face/stomach down on a plane? It sounds weird and I’m not sure how comfortable I am with rubbing airline pillows all over my face.

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CJ Guest

Lucky, how is the Reverse Herringbone so different from a non-window Apex Suite? In my mind the two are quite similar in terms of quality. Yes, the window Apex Suite is perhaps the best business class seat out there, so there is some inequality in the cabin. But the floor (that is, worst seat) is no lower than the Reverse Herringbone.

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