When Airline Employees Cross The Line In Requesting Tips?

There’s no denying that the US tipping culture can be tough to navigate, as there’s no rhyme or reason to it. While I know tons of people hate the US tipping culture, the reality is also that many people in the US rely on tips to make a living.

When it comes to tipping in the US I ask myself one simple question — “does this person rely on tips in any form to make a living?” If the answer is yes, I’ll typically tip. Therefore many might say I over tip. But I’d also rather live and let live, rather than trying to prove a point about how I disagree with the US tipping system.

That’s why I spend a fair amount of time on the blog talking about tipping (it’s also something I receive a lot of questions about). I’ve talked about tipping in airline lounges, tipping in hotel club lounges, tipping airline chauffeur service, tipping housekeeping in hotels, etc.

Australian Frequent Flyer recently wrote about the “Qantas Lounge Tipping Scam,” which I found interesting. It involves the Qantas First Class Lounge LAX. Here’s how the “scam” works:

The scam appears to be targeting customers using the showers in Qantas’ Los Angeles lounge. As recently as last week, a lounge attendant picked up a sum of money that had been left in the room while showing a customer to their shower. The attendant was then seen surreptitiously placing the cash into another room, ready to be taken in full sight of the next customer when they arrived. Our members suggest that the sole purpose of this practice is to subtlety pressure every customer into themselves leaving money. Even if the previous customer had left a tip, it would have been collected while the shower was being cleaned between customers.

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Qantas First Class Lounge LAX shower room

While I wouldn’t go so far as to call this a “scam,” my first reaction was that this is pretty “low.” But then when I thought about it more, I’m not sure it’s much different than a lot of the other stuff I see.

For example, all the time I see hotel shuttle bus drivers put their own dollar bills in the cup holder by their seat as a way of prompting people to tip. And when they are tipped, they’ll place the money in the cup for everyone to see as well.

Australian Frequent Flyer quotes a Qantas spokesperson as saying that tipping isn’t expected or encouraged in any Qantas Lounge. While the former is true, I spoke to the (Australian) manager when the lounge first opened, and asked exactly that. He said it certainly wasn’t expected, but that at the LAX lounge staff to some degree do count on tips to make a living. Of course that will likely come in the form of US guests tipping, while most foreign guests likely won’t.


Qantas-Lounge-LAX - 21Qantas First Class Lounge LAX dining area

Bottom line

I certainly tip in airline lounges for some types of service (I’ll tip the bartender serving me drinks, in nice lounges I’ll tip those serving me food, and I’ll even tip those who clean the showers). I don’t do it because I love the US tipping culture, but rather because the minimum wage in the US is extremely low, and in many instances that’s what these workers are paid. And they rely on tips to get by.

While I think the above technique is sneaky and it would sort of rub me the wrong way if I caught on, I also sort of can’t say I blame them. And I also wouldn’t go so far as to call it a “scam.” Now, if this has been addressed by Qantas and they’ve told the attendants to stop, then it’s of course a problem. But if that hasn’t happened, I can’t say I blame them.

What do you make of the technique used by the shower attendants at the Qantas Lounge LAX? Is it a “scam,” sneaky and questionable, or just plain smart?

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Tyler Guest

@AAron: you're in the wrong job. Tipped US waiters make $50/hour. @lucky: this is a great article about the problems caused by tipping: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/253525

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Kieran Guest

I don't like tipping cultures because it distorts the true face value cost of things - if someone advertises a $20 main, I expect it to cost $20 - not $20 plus tax plus tip plus whatever else hidden charge is attached to it (that's drip pricing!). Just tell me the real price up-front and leave the ridiculous +++ In the history books. I would think the Qantas lounges are the worst place to shill for tips - given the large amount of Australians travelling through them, to whom tips are something you only give for superior service (not regardless of performance, as it has gotten to be in the US). Tips have become really a form of hidden surcharge, and certainly lack any performance lifting incentive (as everyone in tipping cultures simply expects them now, regardless of performance).

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Aaron Guest

My airline pays me $30/hour and when I occasionally push a wheelchair for a customer, they insist on tipping me because they "know I rely on it." I don't tell them I make $65k/year, but I tell them I'm well-paid but they still feel inclined to tip.

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Rc Guest

I usually tip $1-2 in the lounge for a drink served by the bartender or if it's served to me, even if it may be "free". Especially if it's a mixed drink. I normally tip the first drink and don't the next depending how it goes. But the US minimum wage extremely low???? Where have you been? The federal minimum wage is $7.25/HR I believe and that comes out to $1256USD/month before taxes. I know it's not much considering the cost of living in most big cities in the US but the minimum wage was never intended to be "career" jobs... I know restaurant staff can be paid even less which is completely wrong but still. Anyways my point to this is, you seem to be well traveled, well the minimum wage in many Latin American countries is less than $400/month. I would say the "poor" in America are fairly well off when you account for all the government benefits they can receive. I'm sorry but when I see people on government assistance with $30 baseball caps and $100 shoes,free cell phones, housing, food stamps,it just kind of bugs me... Not because they have that stuff but because they aren't per se working for it. And I'm here struggling to maintain an above average lifestyle... It use to be a way to help people up but now it has just become a complete free for all with multiple generations on these "benefits"... Now compare that to the lounge staff person in say Bogota or Peru who is probably earning less than $10 day and actually PAYING for their living expenses with little to no government assistance. And let's not even get to the Middle East where those workers are basically slaves... I'm not saying it's perfect in the us or it shouldn't be raised but let's take a look at reality in the world...

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DavidB Guest

Tipping has never been a custom in Australia because they pay their employees in the service industry much better than is the case in the US where this class of worker is exploited by a lower minimum wage than other sectors of the economy (which are equally too low to sustain any household). This is one of the unspoken characteristics of the great American labour exploitation which is finally getting attention from movements towards a minimum $15 wage. Further, we've seen contracts with many airports/airlines and these support staff contracted to lowest bidder providers, and thus wages further depressed. I was quite surprised on a recent visit to the AS lounge at LAX when I tried to leave a dollar for the barman, he refused to take it...courteously so. This from the most service oriented barman I've run into in any US airline lounge...he even cam around later with a bottle of the same wine I had ordered to refill my glass! As can be seen by the responses here, few things get peoples' ire up than the subject of tipping [in the USA]. Seldom do people realize that lower prices come at the cost of exploited labour, and an obligation to contribute to make up the difference.

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