Super Impressive: New Air France La Premiere LAX Ground Experience

Super Impressive: New Air France La Premiere LAX Ground Experience

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Air France’s La Premiere first class is known for being among the best in the world. In terms of exclusivity and ground experience, it’s simply in a different league than anything else, and is more along the lines of what you’d expect in private aviation than commercial aviation.

Along those lines, I want to share an experience that my friend Nick (yes, a contributor here from years ago) had flying Air France first class from Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris (CDG) recently. It really shows the extent to which Air France just keeps raising the bar when it comes to the first class ground experience.

Air France’s unreal first class LAX ground experience

Air France departs from Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) at LAX, and specifically, from the Midfield Satellite Concourse, where it has its own lounge. Actually getting to the Midfield Satellite Concourse is a bit of a trek, and Air France has seemingly decided that this requires too much effort for its top customers.

So here’s what the ground experience is now like (along with some other thoughts from Nick):

I recently flew from CDG to LAX and back in La Premiere. Outbound, my experience was the same as before — upon arrival, a greeter escorted me from the gate at Bradley West (which, fun fact, is located three counties over and in a different time zone from the rest of LAX) and walked with me all the way through immigration and then to curbside (I hadn’t checked bags). While on our long walk from gate to curb, I asked her if AF had considered a car service for LP customers to shorten the journey, but she told me it was actually impossible due to LAWA (the airport authority) regulations with respect to the international terminal; however, she told me my return experience would be different… and boy, was it ever.

Departing LAX really is another story; as of just a few weeks ago, LP check-in is actually curbside at the end of Terminal 1 (which is otherwise the Southwest terminal). This has two advantages: one, you can skip most of the traffic on the LAX loop getting all the way to the Tom Bradley terminal, and two, apparently they have LAWA authorization to use a private car service from T1. In practice, this meant as soon as I was dropped off at Terminal 1, a La Premiere greeter immediately unloaded my luggage from the trunk of the car while another greeter took my passport and within moments I had my boarding pass and an escort to take me through a lesser-used security line (what LAWA, apparently, refers to as “T1.5”). 

He escorted me past the line directly to the ID check (effectively not much different than Clear in that respect) and then he had me go through the scanner while he waited to load my bags into the X-ray belt. (There was a bit of a line which he attributed to lower staffing due to the shutdown — he told me otherwise it was even more of a breeze.). From there we took the elevator down to the tarmac, he badged me through a door and a La Premiere-branded Tahoe was waiting — at this point my greeter passed me off to the driver, who drove me directly to the exterior entrance of the lounge elevator at Bradley West. (The La Premiere car rides through CDG are always fun, but they’re on separated roads, and there is really nothing quite as exciting as *driving on the tarmac* at LAX). 

Up we went to the lounge and then he led me to the La Premiere salon within the lounge — I’ve only seen the small La Premiere rooms within IAD and SFO, but this was a bit bigger with several tables set up for dining as well as lounge chairs and dedicated staff pouring Bollinger. I checked out the menu but didn’t order from it (flight was at 6:30 and wanted to save my appetite for dinner on the plane) but seemed to overlap a great deal with the menu at the LP salon at CDG, at least as far as the “greatest hits” go (e.g., the chicken croque monsieur).

I’ve been lucky enough to have flown LP a fair amount of times and I will say this is the most exceptional outstation experience I’ve experienced with LP —  Air France got shafted a bit with the Bradley West gates but the upside is they got to build out their own large lounge to spec and they found a way to whisk LP passengers directly there from T1 while minimizing the often-ghastly LAX experience.

Now if only AF could do a better job on sourcing bread for its outstation catering– the LAX bread basket at least featured a sort of semi-edible ciabatta roll, but ex-SFO the bread is supbar and ex-IAD the bread is legitimately disgraceful (hilariously gigantic slices of limp white sourdough, I believe). The croissant I had before landing tasted like they got it from the day-old bin at a Dunkin. There are great bakeries in L.A., S.F. and even D.C. that make fantastic demi-baguettes and croissants! 

It seems like such a silly knock on an otherwise amazing product but for the flag carrier of a nation that prides itself on superlative bread, AF needs to do what it takes to load the cabin with great product. It’s an actual shame on AF that their outstation bread is so bad (seriously, it’s not just me — check FlyerTalk, this is a pretty constant complaint).

Air France is known for its amazing La Premiere ground service

No airline tries as hard as Air France in this regard

Understandably, airlines typically create their passenger experience based on what the competition is doing, and what they feel they need to do to be competitive. This is an area where Air France has decided “forget what the competition is doing, we’re going to make this the best in the world.”

For example, I love Emirates first class, but the first class ground experience is non-existent at outstations. There’s no dedicated first class section in lounges (despite being run by Emirates), not even an escort through security, and no priority boarding over business class.

Now contrast that to Air France first class. The airline has decided that the terminal layout at LAX is too inconvenient for its first class passengers, so the airline meets customers curbside at the most convenient terminal (to avoid traffic), escorts them through security, and drives them in a car to the lounge.

This just shows an uncompromising commitment to being the best in this regard, and you would never see something like this at another airline. Other airline executives would say “hey, well too bad it’s a long walk, that’s just how the terminal is laid out, it’s not our fault.”

Meanwhile I would’ve loved to be there when the discussion took place that led to this — “yeah, it’s kind of a long walk to the lounge, what if we instead meet the passengers at the most convenient terminal, and drive them to the lounge from there?”

Now, there are two things worth acknowledging. First, Air France first class is priced at the very top end of the market, so it’s not going to come cheap. But it’s also clear that Air France is increasingly trying to model the La Premiere experience after private aviation more than commercial aviation.

Second, I should also acknowledge that Starlux Airlines sends its first class passengers to PS LAX, the private terminal at the airport. That being said, the first class experience is otherwise sort of a joke (at that price point, at least), as there’s not even a curtain between first and business class, or a dedicated lavatory.

Air France is modeling its experience after private aviation

Bottom line

While Air France’s La Premiere ground experience is consistently excellent, the airline has taken its outstation service to a new level at LAX. The airline now meets La Premiere passengers at a completely different terminal, escorts them through security, and then drives them across the apron, directly to the lounge.

It’s fascinating to me how Air France is simply in a league of its own when it comes to first class ground service. Then again, Air France’s first class pricing is also in a league of its own… but hey, fair enough, because people are paying it, and clearly value this experience!

What do you make of Air France’s incredible first class ground experience effort?

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  1. Kiwi Guest

    It blows my mind that they haven’t partnered with Acme Bread out of SFO

  2. WestCoastFlyer Guest

    Wow - A Chevy Tahoe screams Premium! Was this a mistake?

  3. Schar Diamond

    Ben could you please review PS LAX and PS ATL anytime soon?

  4. modok Guest

    Impressive, but La Premiere is probably something I can only dream about experiencing. To those who are fortunate enough to fly it, enjoy.

  5. Super Diamond

    This is a hill I will always die on: a Tahoe is not a premium vehicle. Awful ride quality, loud road noise, and cheap materials does not a Black car make.

    1. Pete Guest

      You can't just paint a bullock wagon black, stick in a couple of heated seats, and try to pass it off as a Cullinan or a Bentayga. It's not even a Cayenne.

  6. Vinod Guest

    “(which, fun fact, is located three counties over and in a different time zone from the rest of LAX)”

    I am assuming this is a joke.

    1. betterbub Diamond

      no. It is literally in the state of Arizona

    2. Miguel_R Gold

      @CapitalMike Not in the winter!

    3. Icarus Guest

      It’s a silly comment as most big airports have long walkways be it overground or underground. The distance from the MSC to main building and vice versa is no greater than the walk to the concourse at terminal 2 Heathrow, and much shorter than the walk at Hong Kong although they have a train.

      It’s probably because many Americans don’t like the concept of walking more that 10 metres.

    4. Super Diamond

      Thanks Icarus - really glad you broke that down. Us Americans were really struggling without you to Eurosplain it to us.

  7. SamB Diamond

    It's clear they're targeting the private jet crowd. Smart. Even the most expensive F fare is leagues cheaper than a jet from LAX to CDG. I do wonder what percentage of their F pax, esp. LA-based celebs and executives, already use PS.

    1. Throwawayname Guest

      This is it, it's specific to that outstation because they're chasing the private flyers. There's no general policy along the lines of 'we're going to be the best in the world everywhere in the world'.

      There's a recent trip report on Upgraded Points where the guy flew in P from GRU and was escorted to a Priority Pass lounge (which admittedly looks better than the Skyteam-branded excuse for a lounge that's operated by someone...

      This is it, it's specific to that outstation because they're chasing the private flyers. There's no general policy along the lines of 'we're going to be the best in the world everywhere in the world'.

      There's a recent trip report on Upgraded Points where the guy flew in P from GRU and was escorted to a Priority Pass lounge (which admittedly looks better than the Skyteam-branded excuse for a lounge that's operated by someone else and also available to every premium credit card holder in Brazil and beyond).

    2. Pete Guest

      If you're already willing and able to spend upwards of $250K for a return trip from Los Angeles to Paris in a large cabin business jet, what would be the attraction of downgrading to a scheduled commercial service?

      AF is targeting pax who would usually be stuck in business class on this route, but have sufficient means to pay at least double the business fare for something special at the front of the 777....

      If you're already willing and able to spend upwards of $250K for a return trip from Los Angeles to Paris in a large cabin business jet, what would be the attraction of downgrading to a scheduled commercial service?

      AF is targeting pax who would usually be stuck in business class on this route, but have sufficient means to pay at least double the business fare for something special at the front of the 777. That's a real market, and the fares are obviously lucrative, but I'm not sure that private flyers will be looking to exchange the convenience; and yes, privacy; of the Gulfstream or Global.

    3. TAN Guest

      For anyone who doesn't own such a jet, it's got to be easier to turn up and jump on the next flight (they've got 3 per day) than trying to make long-haul charter arrangements at the last minute.

      (This blog is once again munching my comments)

  8. pstm91 Diamond

    It's worth noting that it will also only continue to improve, especially with their JFK plans.

  9. Cedric Guest

    You would expect this at CDG, but having this level of service outside of France is impressive.

  10. justindev Guest

    Well at $18K+ a pop for AF first tickets, everything about it should be exquisite.

  11. SAN77WSEA Guest

    When I flew JX J a couple months back there was one passenger in F on TPE-SEA. All J passengers were asked nicely to only use the rear J bathrooms. They reserved the one up front for the sole F passenger and from what I saw, everyone complied.

    1. justindev Guest

      @San77wsea

      Similar experience... On my flight ORDNRT a few weeks ago on JAL in first class, a pax from J attempted to make his way to the bathroom at front of the aircraft that was reserved for us in first class. The FA sent him back and totally closed off the first cabin. Marvellous!

    2. Pete Guest

      That's the way it should be on every flight, without exception.

    3. Matthew Guest

      Thank goodness. If an unwashed mass from J sullied the F latreen, the experience would be ruined.

  12. E39 Diamond

    Would be better if they weren't in Skyteam

  13. Vernon C Guest

    Thank you for writing about Air France’s amazing ground services! I wish you compare all first class ground services among leading airlines. In today’s world of chaotic and exhausting airports/international travel, it’s the ground experience that truly defines a first class experience. Very few (if any) airlines in the world can match the spectacular service level of AF La Premiere.

    1. justindev Guest

      Ahhhh, but Emirates has a shower on board, don'tcha know...

    2. Vernon C Guest

      LOL. Bathing in dirty airplane water... luxurious.

  14. George Guest

    lol bread. We recently flew AF business from IAD to Tokyo via Paris, and can concur, the food was the worst and that bread roll can break a window.

  15. 1990 Guest

    On Air France, Ben, your review from earlier this year on the new La Premier First Class Suite was excellent. With an average cash price of +$10,000 one way, you'd better be pampered, both on the ground and in the air. Would love to try someday. Gotta build up to that one.

    On Emirates, my goodness, at DXB, it's a marathon to get to C gates in Terminal 3... like, can't they arrange buggies for...

    On Air France, Ben, your review from earlier this year on the new La Premier First Class Suite was excellent. With an average cash price of +$10,000 one way, you'd better be pampered, both on the ground and in the air. Would love to try someday. Gotta build up to that one.

    On Emirates, my goodness, at DXB, it's a marathon to get to C gates in Terminal 3... like, can't they arrange buggies for those in First at least? The chauffer service to/from the airport is nice, BUT not for Classic Rewards tickets, even in First, which is pretty cheap of them.

    On Starlux, that's a cute row of 'First' but certainly not worth 3x price of Business. That said, I hope they add a NYC route; I'd like to try them, but they're only on the West Coast, and to have take a domestic flight to LAX or SFO, when EVA and CI are already outta JFK... eh.

  16. GRkennedy Guest

    Am I understanding this correctly that, if you fly AF you have to use a different Terminal depending on if you fly First vs you fly another cabin.
    Probably not an issue as they'd tell you which Terminal you have to go to, but I imagine some First passengers would still show at the other Terminal no?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ GRkennedy -- Air France really goes to the next level with its service. It's standard for the airline to call first class passengers before they go to the airport to coordinate the experience, and make it as easy on them as possible. If you show up at TBIT, there's still a first class check-in area, and they'll no doubt still give you great service.

    2. Nick Guest

      Correct, I was emailed the day before my flight with a personal email from the LP team at LAX with the subject line "New La Première procedure at LAX," and with requests for my ETA at the airport, the number of bags I'd be checking and my Known Traveler Number, and was given a direct phone number to call with any questions. I was told that if customers didn't reply to the email, the team would follow up with a phone call.

  17. CapitalMike Gold

    Sometimes it makes me wonder... Yes the ground experience sounds awesome by description. However, I am sure the rank and file have some possibility of reaching the departure gate too. Daily several thousands of passengers walk the distance to the lounge or gates nearby. And really, especially with a long haul ahead, I sometimes like walking around the airport for a bit and look around and mingle with "normal" people, knowing that when I've had...

    Sometimes it makes me wonder... Yes the ground experience sounds awesome by description. However, I am sure the rank and file have some possibility of reaching the departure gate too. Daily several thousands of passengers walk the distance to the lounge or gates nearby. And really, especially with a long haul ahead, I sometimes like walking around the airport for a bit and look around and mingle with "normal" people, knowing that when I've had enough of the real world, I can retreat to the lounge whenever I am ready.
    It's a pity that it doesn't work upon arrival, because that's where I'd see the most benefit to get out as quickly as possible. During departures, however, I appreciate any shortcut I can get through security, but afterwards I am happy to be left to my own devices for a while...

    1. pstm91 Diamond

      This comment is a perfect example of you just can't please everyone. You can offer this unbelievable experience and yet you still have someone like Mike going, yeah but I like the long walk through the crowds. Just can't win sometimes...

    2. CapitalMike Gold

      You misunderstood my comment. I just said "it makes me wonder". And I certainly didn't say, I like a "long walk through the crowds"
      It's an awesome experience and yes, maybe they're going after the private jet crowd. If that's how you move through airports, it's probably similar to how you move through the rest of your life, with your chauffeur waiting at your your doorstep or at least your luxury car in the...

      You misunderstood my comment. I just said "it makes me wonder". And I certainly didn't say, I like a "long walk through the crowds"
      It's an awesome experience and yes, maybe they're going after the private jet crowd. If that's how you move through airports, it's probably similar to how you move through the rest of your life, with your chauffeur waiting at your your doorstep or at least your luxury car in the basement. You can completely lose touch with the real world. I take public transport and occasionally wish I hadn't. But some people never really meet "ordinary" people any more. And that makes me wonder...

    3. Nick Guest

      I believe you still have the option of checking in at TBIT and having a LP staff member escort you all the way to the lounge! But why?

      My LP handler on arrival told me she averages 40,000 steps a day while on the job just on the back-and-forths from the Bradley West gate to curbside.

    4. Albert Guest

      Yes, the one time I was walked from check-in to lounge I didn't really regard it as an upside, other than if I wanted to boast about it.
      (BA at GRU - I was the only passenger in First, on a redemption)

  18. Varun Susarla Member

    Recently flew DXB-ZRH-LAX and LAX-ZRH-DXB. Paid cash around $11,000 US. Air France was pricing out more than double….

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betterbub Diamond

no. It is literally in the state of Arizona

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Nick Guest

Correct, I was emailed the day before my flight with a personal email from the LP team at LAX with the subject line "New La Première procedure at LAX," and with requests for my ETA at the airport, the number of bags I'd be checking and my Known Traveler Number, and was given a direct phone number to call with any questions. I was told that if customers didn't reply to the email, the team would follow up with a phone call.

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Super Diamond

Thanks Icarus - really glad you broke that down. Us Americans were really struggling without you to Eurosplain it to us.

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