Hello from Germany, as I flew Lufthansa’s Airbus A350-900 Allegris first class on the 7hr15min flight from Newark (EWR) to Munich (MUC), as part of my quick review trip. To say that I was excited about this flight would be a severe understatement.
As I’ve already covered, the whole experience was quite eventful, as one of the seats in the cabin was broken, leading to a downgrade. I’ve also dedicated a post to explaining Lufthansa’s confusing three(ish) seat Allegris first class cabin.
With all of that out of the way, let me share my thoughts on the experience. I have to give Lufthansa credit, because the new Allegris first class is mostly very impressive. I think the finishes are super elegant, and the cabin has a beautiful appearance. The standard window suites are excellent, while the double suite in the center might just be the best first class hard product in the world.
However, there’s definitely room for improvement when it comes to attention to detail. So, let me share my initial thoughts, and then soon I’ll have a full trip report. Note that I’m focusing almost entirely on the hard product in this post, since Lufthansa hasn’t yet updated its first class soft product (though a project for that is underway).
In this post:
Lufthansa’s Allegris first class suites are elegant & comfortable
Allegris first class offers two kinds of experiences — there are the standard window suites, and the double suite in the center section. Let’s start by talking about the window suites (note that I didn’t fly in one of these, as the seat I was initially assigned, 1A, was inoperable).
It’s rare that “Lufthansa” and “aesthetics” are used in the same sentence, but I think Lufthansa did a great job here. The cabin feels much less sterile than anything Lufthansa has offered up until this point. Heck, I’d say it’s much nicer looking than the new Allegris business class, for example.
There’s nothing revolutionary about these seats, but instead, they’re just very comfortable all-around. The seats are super wide, have a large ottoman, and have a respectable 32″ 4K UHD display.
The ottoman can be raised to expose the area for carry-on bags (more on that a bit later, because… ugh).
There’s a large tablet next to the seat, which can control all the seat functions, ranging from lighting, to the seat heating and cooling, to the entertainment selection.
The seat has a large tray table, and storage includes a small compartment to the side of the seat, plus a wardrobe, where you can hang clothes. Other than that, the seat lacks storage.
The seat also has all the charging options you’d expect — USB-A, USB-C, AC, and wireless charging are available. Each suite has what I’d consider to be somewhere between a curtain and a door. It’s basically just a very flimsy shield that slides, though it provides a good amount of privacy.
I wouldn’t consider this to be the world’s best first class seat, but it’s very competitive, and it’s revolutionary compared to Lufthansa’s old first class (which isn’t saying a whole lot, admittedly).
Lufthansa’s Allegris double first class suite is incredible
Now let’s take a look at the Allegris first class double suite, which is what I flew in. As I explained in a separate post, this can be reserved in one of three ways:
- If two people book first class, you can call in and request to be seated here and share the seat
- A solo travel can pay a huge upcharge to reserve this seat in advance; on this flight, that would have cost $2,760
- In reality, the trick to getting this at no extra cost is to simply not assign a first class seat; if check-in opens and the two window suites are occupied, then you automatically get assigned this seat at no extra cost (this is how I got the seat)
So if we judge this as a first class seat for a solo traveler, this is absolutely incredible. What a spacious and elegant product. In terms of hard product, I think this compares most closely to Japan Airlines’ A350 first class, though this might even be better.
When reclined, the suite turns into a massive bed, probably the biggest of any airline in first class. What a comfortable sleeping space. There’s also not really a gap between the two “seats,” so unlike Singapore A380 Suites, you can comfortably sleep in the middle as a solo traveler.
I’ve gotta say, when I had the turndown service completed and climbed into bed, I couldn’t help but pinch myself. How incredible that this is on airplane! The suite also has a massive 43″ 4K UHD display, matching the biggest you’ll find on any airline.
Now, what do I make of this first class product as a double suite concept? It’s certainly a cozy space, and if the price were right, I could see myself booking this. However, I think it borders on absurd that Lufthansa expects people to pay two first class fares, and then settle for this suite. Let’s be clear — this seat is not quite twice as wide as two individual seats.
Sure, this works if the two people traveling together just want to cuddle together the entire flight, or whatever. But if people have even slightly different preferences, there are huge tradeoffs here.
The tray table in this suite is the same size as in the other suites, so you can dine face-to-face in the same way you can at other seats. There’s no option to dine next to one another, should you both want to watch a movie while eating.
The aisle seat has a small tray big enough for a drink, but that’s it. There’s one entertainment monitor, so both people have to watch the same thing.
Let me use Ford and me as an example. While I very much enjoy sleeping next to him, otherwise our flight patterns are totally different. He’s often asleep before takeoff on flights, while I struggle to sleep, typically have the meal services, etc.
This concept simply doesn’t work if one person wants to sleep and the other wants to be awake. And if the seat is in bed mode and the person further from the aisle needs to use the lavatory, good luck with that.
Let me of course acknowledge that this is still comfortable or an airplane, and of course this isn’t exactly “roughing it.” But if you’re expecting two people to pay the standard first class fare and book this, you need to wow them. Offering less space per person while expecting the full fare just borders on delusional. Honestly, I’d be fascinated to know what percent of the time that double suite is actually booked by two fare paying passengers.
Personally, I think Lufthansa should lean into just marketing this as a “first class plus” product, intended primarily for one person, but with the flexibility to add a second passenger. Have this be Lufthansa’s version of Air France La Premiere, and differentiate the soft product, add a better ground experience, etc. I think that’s then the best strategy the airline could pursue.
But for a single traveler, I’d argue that this is one of the best first class seats in the world. What an amazing suite.
Is there no quality control at Lufthansa?!?
Let me acknowledge that when it comes to airlines and hotels, I have an obsessive attention to detail. That’s not to say I’m offended if everything isn’t perfect, but instead, I notice everything, because I’m genuinely passionate about this, and I also have a lot of experience.
There are a lot of airlines competing in a very high league, and it’s the little details that set airlines apart from one another. It’s one of the reasons that I appreciate detail oriented airlines, because I recognize how much effort goes into paying attention to every little detail of the experience. Say what you will about former Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker (and I have a lot of opinions!), but his obsessive attention detail is an aspect of his leadership that I respected.
With that in mind, while Lufthansa Allegris first class is impressive big picture, I couldn’t believe how many little things just weren’t thought through, both in terms of things that can easily be fixed, and things that can’t. None of these are individually a deal breaker, but the way I’d describe it, collectively they added friction to the experience.
Let me give an example. The seats don’t have much storage, other than the wardrobes, plus the storage underneath the ottoman. The catch is, the ottoman underneath the center suite wasn’t big enough to fit my standard US-sized carry-on.
The crew encouraged me to use the bin in the broken window seat, and that one (snuggly) fit it. Meanwhile I noticed that the passenger in the other window seat had to store his bag in business class, since it didn’t fit. That kind of seems like a major oversight, in a cabin with no overhead bins.
For that matter, there’s no practical way to access these bins when your bed is reclined, so with the lack of storage, good luck getting any of your belongings without putting your seat upright.
I also find it a little weird how the doors have several huge holes in them. It’s not a huge issue, and it’s not privacy I’m concerned about, but it potentially lets in a huge amount of natural light. It’s quite a contrast to Air France La Premiere, where you have full control over light pollution.
For that matter, I don’t understand why they didn’t just extend the privacy shields to the very top of the cabin. For example, on my overnight flight, below was my view while in bed mode looking up, with the doors closed, with all cabin lights off.
The crew closed the doors to the window suite, my window suite door was closed, yet the window blinds remained open, so it was super bright. It was almost distractingly bright, given that I otherwise had my suite dark.
Next, the suite just feels really stuffy, given the lack of air nozzles. For example, in theory the seat has a seat cooling feature. Look, I’m not expecting it to feel like sitting on an ice pack, but I’m convinced it was broken. I heard a noise coming from the seat when I turned on the seat cooling, but I didn’t feel it get any cooler.
It seems maintenance with the cabin is proving problematic, between one of the three seats being inoperable, and little issues like the lavatory drawer being inoperable. It just doesn’t create a very good impression, for what’s still quite a new product.
Similarly, the entertainment system just had some interface issues that made no sense to me:
- Even when selecting English as the language, the map feature would still cycle through various languages, so it would display everything from Arabic to Japanese
- The plane has a tail camera, but somehow, it can’t actually be played on the main screen, and instead, can only be played on the tablet; at least that was the case on my flight, and both the first class flight attendant and purser tried to troubleshoot it, but were unsuccessful
Bottom line
Big picture, Lufthansa’s Allegris A350 first class is very good. It’s a massive improvement over the old first class, and the product is elegant, spacious, and comfortable. I’d also argue that the double suite is possibly one of the world’s best first class hard products, if you can snag it without paying a ton extra.
Looking at European aviation, Lufthansa first class is now way ahead of British Airways, definitely ahead of SWISS (until the airline soon introduces the same product), but still behind Air France (which is simply in a different league than other European airlines, both in terms of quality and pricing).
While probably not a huge deal for most people, I do think the lack of attention to detail with some aspects of the design, plus the cabin maintenance, are a bit problematic. It seems that Lufthansa over engineered this product, to the point that it struggles to deliver a frictionless experience.
So overall, yay, well done Lufthansa. But also, ugh, why couldn’t the airline have just put a bit more thought into some of the minor details? The airline certainly had the time to do so… 😉
What’s your take on Lufthansa’s A350 Allegris first class?
you are making such a fuss over this Lufthansa first class seat.. etc. ANA has the same seat and TV..... and the CURRENT Swiss first class is also very similar
Its only because LH current first class is so horrible....
@ FED Up -- This is not the same (or even similar) to the first class seat on ANA or SWISS (well, until SWISS introduces its new first class). Yes, they're all first class suites with doors, but these aren't otherwise the same seating platforms.
I had the same me approach to Lufthansa for about 10 years now.
I feel ripped off to the extreme on anything other than economy. If I get a decently priced (shortish) economy flight, I’m absolutely fine it’s them. Anything above that always leave me with a bitter aftertaste.
Was the seat you were originally assigned to really inoperable as they claimed or was there someone occupying it?
@ Boardingareaflukie -- No one occupied the seat, so it really did seem to be inoperable.
The window seats look like the current Swiss F window seats down to the wardrobe inside the door (except no holes in the door on Swiss). What is the difference?
@ CXP -- Maybe it looks that way, but it's not the same. The wardrobe is even completely different in terms of how it opens up. Keep in mind that SWISS will soon be rolling out this same first class seats, so the airline wouldn't roll out a new first class seat that's identical to the old one.
Most people visiting this blog must be well aware of the F business models of the other two big European carriers: BA with plentiful availability on most routes, and making it a solid experience, but a priced and serviced as a smaller step above business class. AF successfully creating the most aspirational F experience in Europe.
The issue here is that, as a frequent flyer, I will happily upgrade to BA F when it’s...
Most people visiting this blog must be well aware of the F business models of the other two big European carriers: BA with plentiful availability on most routes, and making it a solid experience, but a priced and serviced as a smaller step above business class. AF successfully creating the most aspirational F experience in Europe.
The issue here is that, as a frequent flyer, I will happily upgrade to BA F when it’s reasonable, and aspirationally, I genuinely want to and intend to try La Premiere soon. But your review of Allegris honestly makes me think, why bother? I can’t say I would make any special effort to try this.
Of the many design flaws listed, I think F passengers having to store carry-ons in J is actually the most severe - this is going to be a constant annoyance for so many people. The lack of accessible storage in-seat sounds nearly as bad as the dreaded “old” BA club seats… how is it possible not to have accessible storage at your seat for a laptop, in first class, in 2025?
The centre suite bed sounds excellent but with all these basic flaws, not special enough to ever make me fly LH.
Ben, what carry on do you use?
@ Cedric -- I have a Briggs & Riley bag, which I wrote about here:
https://onemileatatime.com/insights/best-carry-on-bags/
I'm looking for a new bag, but that's my current one...
@Ben it sounds like the window business suites have more storage than first class.
@ InceptionCat -- Hah, in some ways that's true, yes.
Having to put a carry on bag in J as a paying F customer is extremely poor design. It's not the biggest deal ever, but it's definitely annoying.
My takeaway after reading earlier teasers, other bloggers and Ben's preview here is: I'm not curious. There are too many caveats for me to jump through the hoops required to book F TransAtlantic (not to mention positioning from home at YYZ to a city where this product is offered) and then be annoyed when I want my laptop and I have to pack and change just to gain access to it.
I'm 65, so "German...
My takeaway after reading earlier teasers, other bloggers and Ben's preview here is: I'm not curious. There are too many caveats for me to jump through the hoops required to book F TransAtlantic (not to mention positioning from home at YYZ to a city where this product is offered) and then be annoyed when I want my laptop and I have to pack and change just to gain access to it.
I'm 65, so "German Engineering" means something to me and it prompted me to buy nothing but German cars for decades. Now, it means Berlin airport, displays that don't work in Daimler-Benz's most expensive models and LH F design failures.
It's ironic that "zeitgeist" is a German word, because Lexus, ANA and JAL have currently captured it.
Soft pass on LH F.
I agree. Looks solid and I wouldn't avoid it of course, but it doesn't look so amazing that I feel I have to try their new J or F cabins out. OS's J seat seems much better designed and no extra fees to get a seat, and with their generally superior service...
I'll say it again - the F middle suite should be available for nearly the same price, regardless of whether it's 1 person or 2.
Honestly it sounds like for two ppl in a center suite qatars biz set up is preferable to the center suite on LH first.
Japan Airlines blowing them out of the water again.
My take on these so called ‘double beds’ which only have access to one side is simply this ….
Great for one person, ridiculous sales gimmick for two. They simply cannot be taken seriously by discerning travellers.
@Ben, are there any lockers like in some of the old F cabins?
@ hbilbao -- There aren't, beyond the crew and bedding storage area.
It kind of feels like you were both over and underwhelmed at the same time.
@ Aaron -- Yes, I think that's a fair summary. But given the state of Lufthansa's old first class, I'd say my impression was more positive than negative.
Look, I like this post. Heck, I even like your website. I just wish you didn’t use this language style. Anyone else agree?
All agreed on the storage flaws and well as the fact this can’t really be sold to two passengers. Not sure how the ticketing would work if they sold it to a couple for 1.5 the F price l, given each passenger still needs their own ticket and you can’t put...
Look, I like this post. Heck, I even like your website. I just wish you didn’t use this language style. Anyone else agree?
All agreed on the storage flaws and well as the fact this can’t really be sold to two passengers. Not sure how the ticketing would work if they sold it to a couple for 1.5 the F price l, given each passenger still needs their own ticket and you can’t put two passengers onto one ticket.
Perhaps they should just limit any cohabitation to other F passengers who already have their own seat, but that limits the max capacity to 3 passengers anyway. If they had adopted a different design for those middle seats, they could have easily made them separable (and therefore more profitable?).
Keep up the nice work.
@ Alexf1 -- The current ticketing doesn't exactly work seamlessly, since you have to call to reserve the suite. There's no reason that Lufthansa couldn't make the double suite a separate fare class, so that it could easily be booked online by one or two people (with pricing varying based on the number of people).
I guess if Etihad can do it with The Residence, it should be possible?
Yeah, not gonna lie, I have my Ben article bingo card and "Heck," is there, as is "ugh" :)
So is the gratuitous use of quotation marks around things that don't need them.
"Big Three"
Consumers
As follows
BINGO!
@ brianna hoffner @ How Dare You -- Point taken!
I can't help but wonder what you mean
"Heck" is such a weird thing for someone Ben's age to say, especially since he doesn't seem to be a holy roller.
Maybe it will come in the main review, but I was hoping you would have tried to sit side to side with your dad to get a feel of how tight (or not) it is to sit with someone else, especially given the lack of armrest in the middle. But yeah overall that does seem like an absurd product. They should have simply marketed this as First Plus or whatever to sell to single passengers, instead of trying to market it to couples.
@ Clem -- Yeah, there are lots of other details I wanted to cover, but when my preview post was over 2,000 words, I figured I had to stop at some point. :p
It was actually quite comfortable to sit next to one another. The lack of an armrest isn't ideal, but it's fun for just casually hanging out. Our arms weren't rubbing up against one another, so I felt like we had sufficient space.
Thanks for the answer! I'm surprised, I really thought it would be a tight fit although it also really depends on the passenger size I guess - always hard to get a sense of space from empty seat pictures. Looking forward to the full review!
You write that you pay close attention to details, yet every single post on this blog is riddled with multiple spelling mistakes...
I take that as proof that the material is not AI produced, and those mistakes don't bother me at all.
@ LX_Flyer -- Please read the sentence again. I wrote "when it comes to airlines and hotels, I have an obsessive attention to detail." That doesn't apply to all aspects of my life in the same way.
As I mentioned in the sentence after that, it's because I'm very passionate about the airline and hotel passenger experience. I'm not as passionate about grammar.
You're absolutely right that I have typos, and I apologize for that....
@ LX_Flyer -- Please read the sentence again. I wrote "when it comes to airlines and hotels, I have an obsessive attention to detail." That doesn't apply to all aspects of my life in the same way.
As I mentioned in the sentence after that, it's because I'm very passionate about the airline and hotel passenger experience. I'm not as passionate about grammar.
You're absolutely right that I have typos, and I apologize for that. I publish close to a dozen posts a day on average, and typically over 10,000 words per day. I often write while super jet lagged or exhausted (half of my content in the past days has been written between 12AM and 5AM, when I haven't been able to sleep).
There are only so many hours in the day, and I tend to think my time is better spent covering as many things as possible, rather than doubling the amount of time that I spend writing each post, so that there aren't typos here and there. Believe it or not, I proofread every post. But obviously I'm just not a good editor in that way, and it's not a strength of mine.
I understand if you feel differently, but hopefully you can see why I take that approach...
Your posts are always higher quality than Gary's talk about spelling and grammar Oy!
LOL, everything you write is perfect then? I don't have an issue with it, I spot very very few typos here.
Ben, how's the center seat in bed mode? I have read a review by another blogger saying that there's a gap between the two "beds" and it's noticeable and uncomfortable while sleeping. Thanks!
@ CXTraveller -- There's a slight gap, but I didn't find it to be at all uncomfortable. For example, I think Singapore's A380 Suites double bed is super uncomfortable if you try to sleep in the middle. But I didn't find that to be the case here.
Passenger's weight might play a role.
Out of curiosity, given the cabin is significantly smaller than other LH first cabins, was it staffed differently?
@ Jb -- Yeah, there was just one flight attendant (rather than two in the eight seat cabins), plus the purser was roaming around. The other passenger didn't seem to partake in much of the service, so service was quite personalized.
If the cabin actually had four guests and all of them wanted to eat, having one flight attendant for four passengers is challenging, since they have to work both the aisle and the galley.
Doesn’t La Premiere only have one FA for 4 passengers?
@ Aaron -- It does, and if the cabin is full and everyone chooses to eat, service can be a bit slow as a result.
In terms of the hard product alone, LH's take on new first class on an A350 looks more appealing to me than JAL's. But JAL offers six seats, with each one being more or less the same. So, given the response to LH Allegris first class this far, I wonder if they will modify what they roll out on the newer aircraft.
Ben is it a typo when you say “while the double suite in the center might just be the best first class hard product in the world.” Given it has no storage, no windows, is inadequate for two people that it was ‘designed for’
I really respect your reviews but scratching my head a bit on this hyperbole vs la premier etc
@ vandhk -- I said "might just be," because I think it depends on what you're looking for. Purely in terms of size, the bed is incomparable, in a different league than what you'll find on any airline in first class. For those who value bed comfort more than anything else, I think that's a major benefit.
"I wouldn’t consider this to be the world’s first class seat" -- I think you a word there.
"Let’s be clear — this seat is not quite twice as wide as two individual seats." How about some numbers? It's 35" vs 49" so not even 50% wider. Still have to read reviews from multiple sites to get the full picture, but I appreciate your thoughts on the storage situation and light pollution. Even if it's a bit late for those issues to be fixed.
@ AS is S tier -- Thank you, I added the "best" word into that sentence. I'm curious, where do you get the 35" vs. 49" numbers, because the difference felt like a lot a bit than that (while still not being twice as wide)? And that refers to the actual seating surface width, or the entire suite?
The seat/bed. I got the numbers from another site, BT. They reported on the press release from February 28, 2023. "The double suite will feature two seats with a width of 60cm each (or 120cm together) that can recline into a double bed." That's actually 47" and change but I guess the gap between the seats makes it roughly 49 inches for the bed. I don't see the specs in the media kit now, but...
The seat/bed. I got the numbers from another site, BT. They reported on the press release from February 28, 2023. "The double suite will feature two seats with a width of 60cm each (or 120cm together) that can recline into a double bed." That's actually 47" and change but I guess the gap between the seats makes it roughly 49 inches for the bed. I don't see the specs in the media kit now, but it seems about right. Even judging from your 'double suite monitor' picture, the screen should be 43" diagonal or ~40" wide including bezels. Nine inches or so more for the bed looks accurate. The entire suite is a bit wider, especially on the seat side as the wardrobe takes up some space.
American mattress widths: Full 54", Queen 60", King 72" to 76". When was the last time you checked in to a hotel with "Full" size double beds? Right, I didn't think so.
@Ben
Where does Lufthansa's new Allegris first class center suite stands in comparison to Emirates new first class installed on a few 777-300ERs? Compare only the hard products.
@ Nasir -- In terms of bed comfort and tech, I'd say Lufthansa wins by a long shot (partly because the "Game Changer" is nearly a decade old, so no bluetooth audio, etc.). In terms of privacy, virtual windows, and air nozzles, Emirates wins. Of course when factoring in the overall soft product, Emirates has a big advantage.
@Ben
QR, SIA and CX are designing new first class suites. Let's hope they come up with something revolutionary and game changing. Who among the three do you think will introduce the best hard product?
@ Nasir -- It's the thing I'm most looking forward to about the 777Xs! If Cathay Pacific actually follows through on its Halo Suite concept, then I think that will be pretty hard to beat:
https://onemileatatime.com/news/new-cathay-pacific-first-class/
I remain a bit skeptical, because I question the economics of that. But if the product is anything like that... wow!
@Ben Wouldn't it be really awkward to do "whatever" in there with the two giant big holes in the doors? Ha ha.
And that must be an amazing hard product for it to be considered one of the best in the world, even though it lacks windows. Thanks for the great review!
@ Sonofdad -- Thank you! And yes, I wasn't suggesting *that*... :p
*That* might be the only thing that could convince me to pay for two full F fares for the middle suite. :D
I fly 6-8 (long haul) round trips in J a year and 1-2 round trips in F most years. I’m not loyal to any airline, prioritise comfort and schedule and pay for my flights - except if it’s on the LH group. The only time I’ll ever fly them is if I get award tickets matching my schedule. They are at the bottom of the pack and I give them as little of my money as possible. And I’m saying this as someone who lives in Europe in an LH group hub.
Can one even really get the whole first class experience on such a short flight?
@ Simone -- Not if wanting to arrive well rested. :p However, the meal service is basically the same as on any other Lufthansa long haul flight, so for review purposes, yes, I'd say it's the full experience.
Items that I want to put away somewhere at some point during the flight include my wallet, passport, glasses, eyeshades, a book and my phone and laptop. And I need them to be within easy reach. Is the side storage large enough to store a book? Where do I put my laptop? Sounds like incredibly poor planning. And, apparently, nowhere to fit my carry-on. I can't help but laugh.
If F is not full, can...
Items that I want to put away somewhere at some point during the flight include my wallet, passport, glasses, eyeshades, a book and my phone and laptop. And I need them to be within easy reach. Is the side storage large enough to store a book? Where do I put my laptop? Sounds like incredibly poor planning. And, apparently, nowhere to fit my carry-on. I can't help but laugh.
If F is not full, can you ask at the check-in desk to have the middle seat (at no charge)? Or on board?
And yeah, now that I have read the whole review, the middle seat bed looks impressively wide for one person. But I still have a hard time believing that Allegris, as a whole, would be a better hard product than the AF new F.
@ Daniel from Finland -- I don't know where you'd place a laptop, short of just putting it on the ottoman or next to you on the seat. The small storage compartment to the side of the seat might be big enough for a small book, but that's it.
If the cabin isn't full, you couldn't assign the middle suite at the airport. However, anecdotal reports suggest that crews will typically allow passengers to use the middle seat if unoccupied, once onboard.
What an incredibly poorly designed product. Brand new F in 2025 and no where to place a laptop or a book. Unbelievable…
Why anyone would fly La Premier Inn when they can fly Allegris is beyond me.
Couples on La Premiere actually sit together, dine together or face to face, and sleep next to each other with both of them having aisle access and their own tvs?
Appreciate the first impressions! How familiar did the crew seem to be with the product?
@ SSG -- They seemed to be pretty familiar with the product, so I didn't find that to be an issue.
I should probably read the whole review before commenting, but "the double suite in the center might just be the best first class hard product in the world" sounds so strange when there are products out there with separate beds and seats. To me, AF new F looks so much better than LH Allegris F.
But now I'll continue reading and perhaps this will become clear to me :)
@ Daniel from Finland -- So I love the new La Premiere product, but broadly speaking, I'm not necessarily the biggest fan of the separate seat and bed concept, because it limits the size of the bed. Just look at Etihad's A380 first class, where you get a huge suite, but the actual bed is... not particularly spacious.
The size of the Lufthansa Allegris first class bed in the double suite is simply unbelievable, and...
@ Daniel from Finland -- So I love the new La Premiere product, but broadly speaking, I'm not necessarily the biggest fan of the separate seat and bed concept, because it limits the size of the bed. Just look at Etihad's A380 first class, where you get a huge suite, but the actual bed is... not particularly spacious.
The size of the Lufthansa Allegris first class bed in the double suite is simply unbelievable, and it's long overdue that an airline introduce a bed of this size.
Okay, fair enough! And yeah, I did think of Etihad F as I saw the pic earlier today. That bunk bed looks narrow and hard. The LH mattress looks thick and qualitative.
@ Daniel from Finland -- Yeah, Lufthansa does have very good bedding, and I'm happy they fitted that appropriately to the new double suite. Air France also has great bedding...
Come to think of it, maybe it would have been better for LH to simply offer three wide seats/beds instead of two regular and one super-wide. That way, they might have been able to offer the widest F out there?
@ Daniel from Finland -- Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They could've really offered an industry leading product if they just added extra width to all three seats.