Copa 737 MAX Business Class: At Least There Are Flat Beds?

Copa 737 MAX Business Class: At Least There Are Flat Beds?

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Hello from Panama! After flying Boliviana de Aviacion’s A330 business class from Miami (MIA) to Santa Cruz de le Sierra (VVI), and then connecting to GOL’s 737 MAX premium economy to Sao Paulo (GRU), I then continued in Copa’s 737 MAX business class to Panama City (PTY). This was a 6hr20min flight, departing at the rather ungodly hour of 3:10AM.

I was looking forward to finally flying Copa’s Boeing 737 MAX 9 business class, which is the carrier’s sole aircraft type featuring flat beds in business class. I had intended to fly this a couple of years back, but there was a plane swap at the last minute, so I reviewed Copa’s 737-800 business class (actually, two versions of the carrier’s 737-800 business class).

In this post I wanted to share my initial thoughts, and then soon I’ll have a full review. Long story short, I think Copa business class can represent a great deal, given the generally excellent pricing, and plentiful award availability. It’s nice to get a flat bed and some decent amenities, but this is about as no frills as business class gets, from the food, to the service, to the lack of Wi-Fi.

Copa’s 737 MAX business class seats are at least flat

Copa’s Boeing 737 MAX 9s have what the airline markets as its “Dreams” business class. Planes either have three or four rows of business class, and I was on a jet with three rows of business class (which in theory is preferred in terms of service levels and lavatory access, but manage your expectations when it comes to both). 😉

Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class cabin

Copa uses the popular Collins Aerospace Diamond seat, so the cabin is in a 2-2 layout, meaning there’s not direct aisle access from every seat.

Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class seats
Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class seats

These aren’t really competitive long haul business class seats nowadays, but for a narrow body jet, it’s of course still better than not having a flat bed. Copa did a pretty nice job with the finishes of the seats, as I quite like the color scheme.

I do wish the airline had created a larger privacy shield between the two seats, because you really have no privacy from the person seated next to you, and that can be less than ideal when one person is trying to sleep, while the other wants to be awake.

Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class privacy partition

While this seat isn’t about to win any awards, I did manage to get some solid sleep in my window seat, though in fairness, I was also really tired.

Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class bed
Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class bed

Copa has an okay entertainment selection on its 737 MAXs, with around 90 movies, 60 TV shows, and the map feature. Rather frustratingly, Copa doesn’t have Wi-Fi on these jets. That wasn’t a huge deal on this very early morning flight, but for a daytime flight, that’s less than ideal.

Copa Boeing 737 MAX business class entertainment

Copa’s business class bedding is excellent

To Copa’s credit, the airline offers excellent bedding, with a plus pillow and thick blanket. This made it easy to get cozy, and on top of that, the individual air nozzles helped with regulating airflow.

Copa business class pillow
Copa business class blanket

There was also an amenity kit offered, which I found to be surprisingly cute, especially with the clouds all over the eyeshades and socks.

Copa business class amenity kit

Do note that these special amenities are only offered on the carrier’s longest 737 MAX 9 routes, to Southern South America, to the West Coast of the United States, and to the Northeast of the United States. You’ll sometimes see 737 MAX 9s operating shorter flights as well (like to Miami), but the improved soft product isn’t offered on these routes.

Copa’s business class service & catering is lackluster

You should fly Copa business class for the ability to get some rest, but you can kind of forget about the rest of the product. Admittedly this was an awkwardly timed flight, but I still found the food to be quite bad. There were no menus, and there was a snack after takeoff, and then breakfast before landing.

After takeoff, the flight attendant simply passed out cardboard boxes, intended as a snack that passengers can help themselves to at any time. I’m sorry, but does this really look like a business class meal?

Copa business class snack

This snack consisted of a vegetable and cheese sandwich, which tasted (and looked) like nothing. There was also a banana bread dessert of sorts.

Copa business class snack

Then before landing breakfast was served, with the option of scrambled eggs or waffles. I selected the scrambled eggs, with turkey bacon (or something) and sliced pumpkin. This came with a side of fruit, plus a white roll. Honestly, this wasn’t impressive at all, especially as the main meal on a (sort of) long haul flight.

The coffee situation wasn’t good either. Copa doesn’t even have milk onboard, so if you want to add something to your coffee, the only option is powdered creamer. Bleh!

Copa business class breakfast

The crew on this flight couldn’t have been more indifferent if they tried. The flight attendant working business class wasn’t rude in any way, but he wasn’t in any way charming, or proactive, or anything. After takeoff, he was in the cabin once to hand out the snack and offer a drink, and then he emerged before landing to offer breakfast and a drink.

There was never a greeting after boarding, offering a drink refill, checking to see if anyone wanted anything, or anyone being addressed by name.

I’d consider flying with Copa again…

There’s a challenge with assessing Copa. If you compare Copa to the long haul business class products offered by a vast majority of airlines nowadays, Copa wouldn’t compare favorably. But I also don’t view that as a totally fair comparison, as Copa has a unique business model, as it’s like the Icelandair of the Americas:

  • Copa has an incredibly expansive network in the Americas, and connects all kinds of markets with one stop that other airlines don’t serve efficiently
  • Panama is an efficient hub with short connection times, and Copa also has an impressive on time performance, so Copa will generally get you where you need to go in a timely fashion
  • Copa’s business class pricing is largely much lower than the competition, and award availability is also typically much more readily available, including in business class

So if I were redeeming miles and had the option of flying nonstop on a wide body in business class or on Copa through Panama at the same cost, of course I’d choose the former. But if there’s no award availability, and Copa has a sub-$1,000 one-way business class ticket from deep in South America to North America, there’s not another airline that can compete with that kind of value.

I do wish that Copa invested a bit in its passenger experience, from offering Wi-Fi, to improving the meals, to having friendlier service. But honestly, I’m not sure there would be a return on investment for that with the airline, since an amazing product isn’t why people fly with Copa.

I will say that if I flew Copa again, I’d absolutely do an overnight flight once again, since the lack of Wi-Fi and fairly limited entertainment would be less ideal for a daytime flight. Furthermore, I’d prefer this product if traveling with a companion, since I like these seats when I’m traveling with someone, while I’m not as much of a fan if I’m next to a stranger.

Bottom line

I’m happy I finally had the chance to fly Copa’s 737 MAX “Dreams” business class. For a 737, this is a pretty nice product, given that you get a flat bed, and the bedding is comfortable as well. Beyond that, though, don’t expect much, from the food, to the service, to the lack of Wi-Fi.

I wouldn’t hesitate to fly Copa again if the price or schedule were right, since the airline has a unique business model in the Americas. But if there were another airline with an equally convenient schedule, I’d almost certainly choose that.

What do you make of Copa’s Boeing 737 MAX 9 “Dreams” business class?

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  1. ImportViking Member

    Apparently having business class seats on a narrow body gives some people expectations about everyone having direct isle access. I can't recall being on any flight on a B737 of any type with every business class seat having direct aisle access. So, I guess this is a non-complaint as there's nothing else to expect, really. Still, you get a flat bed and you managed to get some sleep. And, surprising for Boeing these days, you...

    Apparently having business class seats on a narrow body gives some people expectations about everyone having direct isle access. I can't recall being on any flight on a B737 of any type with every business class seat having direct aisle access. So, I guess this is a non-complaint as there's nothing else to expect, really. Still, you get a flat bed and you managed to get some sleep. And, surprising for Boeing these days, you actually managed to survive the flight.

    But, it seems like Copa's hard product is excellent in its category and gives very decent value for money. And by the looks of it, you didn't die of dehydration or starvation either. Have you considered pushing the service button in case you wanted a refill or so?

  2. Taylor Guest

    I see some value in reviewing new (to the blog) experiences, but it's kind of amusing that so many people bitched about the previous itinerary only for the revised one to consist of exclusively and predictably lackluster products.

    I'm not saying these reviews won't be useful to some, but certain commenters were foaming at the mouth like there were undiscovered riches onboard GOL and Copa rather than unremarkable 737 seats that some might actually...

    I see some value in reviewing new (to the blog) experiences, but it's kind of amusing that so many people bitched about the previous itinerary only for the revised one to consist of exclusively and predictably lackluster products.

    I'm not saying these reviews won't be useful to some, but certain commenters were foaming at the mouth like there were undiscovered riches onboard GOL and Copa rather than unremarkable 737 seats that some might actually go out of their way to avoid

    1. Eskimo Guest

      Send your thanks to VT-CIE

  3. KT Guest

    I’m neither a complainer, nor usually hyperbolic — flying up front, especially in a flat-bed seat, is a privilege — but I found COPA’s food disgusting, not a word I use lightly. On recent flights, I was served a chicken rice dish that wasn’t just flavorless and virtually chicken-free, it left a greasy film on my tongue and palate that took hours to be rid of. On my return itinerary, I resorted to airport-bought M&Ms...

    I’m neither a complainer, nor usually hyperbolic — flying up front, especially in a flat-bed seat, is a privilege — but I found COPA’s food disgusting, not a word I use lightly. On recent flights, I was served a chicken rice dish that wasn’t just flavorless and virtually chicken-free, it left a greasy film on my tongue and palate that took hours to be rid of. On my return itinerary, I resorted to airport-bought M&Ms and Pringles rather than ingest the slurry (it was the same dish in both directions) . Yes, it’s the definition of a first-world problem, but this is a product I will only fly when lack of funds (miles or money) steer me to that direction.

    1. DaBluBoi Guest

      Perhaps they emulated their catering to be very similar to UA's procedures?

  4. David Guest

    Hey Mike, COPA has some of the longest 737 flights serving Panama from as far as BUE and to the USA West Coast

    Ben nailed it right, indifferent flight attendants, lousy meals, but great value. Finally with a limited number of lie flat seats you might get lucky to get a decent night’s sleep.

    Check your attitude buddy, Ben was not whining.
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  5. Tom Guest

    Does the bulkhead in row 1 give you more leg space?

    1. Bruno Guest

      Yes, it does. On YouTube you can find some videos that show the bulkhead seat and its bigger space for your feet.

  6. hbilbao Guest

    If it's of any consolation, the only thing that's missing from CM's pre-pandemic service is the printed menu.

    1. Hodor Diamond

      Ah dang, he's down below.

  7. Duck Ling Guest

    The wifi on a flight that distance wouldn't bother me.

    I just flew the non stop Perth, Australia to London flight. 18hr7min airborne. No wifi. Yup. And I don't mean it was broken or something, NO Qantas A380's or 787's have WiFi. Gobsmacked with some of the lengths of flights they operate.

  8. Mike Mohler Guest

    Oh stop bitching and get real. It's a 737. The lay-flat seats are fine, and the rest of what you're whining about is unimportant nonsense to fill space. Lack of direct aisle access? Oh boo-hoo, cry me a river. You step over your partner or they step over you, it's not the end of the world. It's a 737 on a short flight, fer cryin' out loud. I've flown on these planes in these seats...

    Oh stop bitching and get real. It's a 737. The lay-flat seats are fine, and the rest of what you're whining about is unimportant nonsense to fill space. Lack of direct aisle access? Oh boo-hoo, cry me a river. You step over your partner or they step over you, it's not the end of the world. It's a 737 on a short flight, fer cryin' out loud. I've flown on these planes in these seats (and yes, with that unattractive food) and will do so again happily whenever I need to get there. Have some frigging perspective, princess, and come down to earth. Sheesh.

    1. jcil Guest

      Finally someone who gets it. These are relatively short flights on a 737. I think our "princesses" are getting pretty soft and spoiled. By God, I bet they didn't even offer pajamas. Time for a reality check.

    2. Mallthus Gold

      He quite literally provided some perspective if you'd read to the end. This is a fine product for the price. It's not competitive with a true business class product on a widebody aircraft. It's all about priorities and many people don't have all the information you and I do as to the relative quality of Copa.

      If you're paying for it, Ben clearly stated it can be very good value for money. If you're...

      He quite literally provided some perspective if you'd read to the end. This is a fine product for the price. It's not competitive with a true business class product on a widebody aircraft. It's all about priorities and many people don't have all the information you and I do as to the relative quality of Copa.

      If you're paying for it, Ben clearly stated it can be very good value for money. If you're using award points and have another option for the same or similar points, it's a poor value, especially when that person you're stepping over (or who's stepping over you) is a STRANGER.

  9. HkCaGu Guest

    A year ago after buying my ticket on CM I used 20k UA miles for a Star Alliance Upgrade Award LAX-PTY. Using cash the fare difference would've been $500.

  10. Jeff Guest

    I used to get business class awards all the time to South America on Copa using Avianca LifeMiles. About a month ago, there were none. Do I have to go to United or Aeroplan?

  11. yoloswag420 Guest

    Any plans to try the new Korean Air 787-10 business class?

    A lot of people were looking forward to that review from your original itinerary.

    1. NS Diamond

      Count me in to that "a lot of people". But I'm sure that Ben is still looking for a chance to fly on KAL B78X - he said that intersted him, so...

      Honestly, now that I know that both GOL and Copa experiences were nothing to write home about, I'm kind of disappointed that he diverted to South America. At least BOA business class sounds interesting enough though.

    2. yoloswag420 Guest

      Yeah a lot of people were disappointed. It's actually even more interesting now since China Airlines and Korean Air have some new A3210neo seats that look very interesting to compare with.

    3. Eskimo Guest

      @NS

      You can thank VT-CIE for that.

  12. Faris Guest

    Thanks for your review of this, Ben! Happy to have this review to know what I'm getting into as I look for S.America awards from SFO.

  13. VT-CIE Diamond

    It’s all in the name, Ben: Dreams. The one thing you can be guaranteed of on Copa’s 737 MAX 9 is solid dreams… in which you visualise yourself flying Qsuites or Air France or JAL or something of that kind! ;)

    1. Eskimo Guest

      From all the people, according to @Mike Mohler's opinion, that needs to "stop bitching and get real. It's a 737" would like to thank VT-CIE for the pressure so we all end up reading reviews on GOL and COPA instead of 787-9 787-10 and 777-300ER.

      You don't need wisdom like @Taylor for "undiscovered riches onboard GOL and Copa rather than unremarkable 737".

      Thank you, VT-CIE.
      I'd love to see more 737 reviews.
      I...

      From all the people, according to @Mike Mohler's opinion, that needs to "stop bitching and get real. It's a 737" would like to thank VT-CIE for the pressure so we all end up reading reviews on GOL and COPA instead of 787-9 787-10 and 777-300ER.

      You don't need wisdom like @Taylor for "undiscovered riches onboard GOL and Copa rather than unremarkable 737".

      Thank you, VT-CIE.
      I'd love to see more 737 reviews.
      I can't wait till some mediocre airline put a shower in this 50 year old plane design on a 3 hour flight.

      What do you expect.
      Now moving forward let's all pressure Ben to avoid Ritz Carlton and do more reviews on middle of nowhere Residence Inn.

      I end with VT-CIE would be infamous quote for the next Ryanair review.
      "visualise yourself flying Qsuites or Air France or JAL or something of that kind! ;)"

  14. Dave W. Guest

    There are no circumstances where I'd find a lay-flat seat a good thing if there isvsomeone next to me. And double yuch to having to climb over or be climbed over. You want my J bucks, I'm in 1 of 1-2-1 J (OK, maybe in the 2 if well divided). But, I only fly to places I want to go.

  15. Angetenar Guest

    Something else to mention is that every Copa economy fare is upgradable with United Plus Points and usually there is good upgrade availability. This is useful given how many red eye US-PTY flights they have.

    1. Very curious Guest

      @angetenar can you or anyone else with knowledge of this [Copa upgrade] elaborate on exactly how to upgrade a Copa flight with United miles, eg where/steps?

      And is it possible to upgrade using a friend's miles? Assume I am flying Copa economy and want to upgrade to business. I don't have United miles but a friend does and is willing to letme use them for this purpose. TIA guys!

    2. Dr. Stan Guest

      Hola, Angetenar....

      Do you have to buy the ticket from UA in order to use the PQPs for the upgrade? Can you buy the ticket from CM and then add the upgrade through CM, or only through UA?

      Thanks for mentioning this...I fly CM pretty often and never knew!!

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yoloswag420 Guest

Any plans to try the new Korean Air 787-10 business class? A lot of people were looking forward to that review from your original itinerary.

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Mallthus Gold

He quite literally provided some perspective if you'd read to the end. This is a fine product for the price. It's not competitive with a true business class product on a widebody aircraft. It's all about priorities and many people don't have all the information you and I do as to the relative quality of Copa. If you're paying for it, Ben clearly stated it can be very good value for money. If you're using award points and have another option for the same or similar points, it's a poor value, especially when that person you're stepping over (or who's stepping over you) is a STRANGER.

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Mike Mohler Guest

Oh stop bitching and get real. It's a 737. The lay-flat seats are fine, and the rest of what you're whining about is unimportant nonsense to fill space. Lack of direct aisle access? Oh boo-hoo, cry me a river. You step over your partner or they step over you, it's not the end of the world. It's a 737 on a short flight, fer cryin' out loud. I've flown on these planes in these seats (and yes, with that unattractive food) and will do so again happily whenever I need to get there. Have some frigging perspective, princess, and come down to earth. Sheesh.

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