The Latest On The Inevitable Electronics Ban Expansion

For a few weeks now there have been rumors of a new electronics ban being introduced on flights from Europe to the US. This new restriction would apparently mirror the policy that has been in place for flights from the Middle East to the US since late March.

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Earlier this week reputable sources started saying that the electronics ban would be announced for flights from Europe to the US this week, and on Wednesday European security officials further clarified that the White House would be announcing such a ban on Thursday.

Heck, yesterday Delta erroneously put out signs at Cincinnati Airport suggesting that the new restrictions were in place effective immediately. Even though Delta claimed this was an error, clearly that information came from somewhere.

So, it’s now the weekend and there’s still not an announcement, so what exactly is going on? Is the electronics ban off the table, being reconsidered, or what?

Why the electronics ban may be delayed

If I’m reading into the situation correctly, I think what’s happening here is that the government is realizing that unilaterally imposing this restriction with no advance notice or consultation of other governments or airlines won’t end well for them. I suspect they had the intention of implementing this as of May 12 (which would explain why Delta printed signs to that effect), but that they got pushback from the major US airlines, foreign governments, etc.

When they imposed this restriction on flights from the Middle East, it exclusively impacted foreign carriers, and it’s not like the current administration has an issue with putting policies in place that impact people traveling from that region.

So it sure seems like the US had the intention of instituting this without much further thought, but the pushback is causing them to at least consult airlines and other countries on the implementation.

Per the Associated Press:

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security organized a telephone conference with “key European partners” — France, Britain, Germany, Spain and Italy. It will be a ministerial level call. The French attendee is expected to be Louis Gautier, secretary general for defense and national security.

A French official with direct knowledge about Friday’s meeting said France planned to push back against the measure, saying there was no information to suggest a significant increase in the terror threat. Friday marks the final working day of the current French administration. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity to discuss the plan.

Two airline officials who were briefed on the discussions said Homeland Security gave no timetable for an announcement, but they were resigned to its inevitability. They spoke only on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the meeting publicly.

Is the expanded electronics ban inevitable?

It sure looks like it, unfortunately. If they’re going to put this into place, I at least hope they think long and hard about the implementation. They did a horrible job implementing the new policy for flights originating in the Middle East, and this is on a whole different level, given the amount of traffic from Europe to the US.

There are so many questions about the logic of such a ban. On one hand I hope that foreign governments and airlines can talk some sense into the current administration. On the other hand, I suspect they’ve made up their mind, and the only thing on the table is exactly which electronics will be banned, how soon it’s being implemented, exactly which flights are impacted, etc.

Even if you’re someone who 100% agrees with the implementation of this and values security theater above all else, I’m sure you’ll at least agree with some of the questions I have:

  • Isn’t there a way that laptops and other electronics could be swabbed for explosives residue and tested before the flight, rather than banning them from the cabin entirely? Many airports already require you to power up electronics and even swab them.
  • Isn’t there an increased risk of a fire in a cargo hold from having all the electronics there, without an easy way to access them?
  • Why doesn’t the electronics ban include flights from the US? Forget hidden explosives — in tests the TSA has missed over 95% of weapons and explosives that were brought through the checkpoint? Shouldn’t fixing the ineffective TSA be our first priority?
  • Why only limit this to flights from Europe and the Middle East, and not include flights from Latin America, etc.?

It’s not often I say this, but I think Qatar Airways’ Akbar Al Baker is spot on:

Here’s to hoping this policy is reconsidered… unfortunately I’m not optimistic.

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Carol Walker Guest

I am a professional photographer and travel to Europe for business. Counting cameras as electronics and forcing me to put my very expensive cameras in checked luggage will inevitably result in theft and breakage, and if this happens on the way to Europe I will be unable to do my shoots. No one should have to put their camera equipment in checked luggage. If there is concern about laptops, ban laptops, but not cameras. It is hard enough now for photographers to travel with equipment - why make it impossible?

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Kare New Member

I agree with Steve. We all know and have seen how our checked in luggage thrown, dropped, dumped, etc. Buying a pc because of the negligence and or loss of the airlines isn't something I get a thrill doing. Its a nightmare for me. My time replacing the pc, programs, payroll, etc doesn't come cheap. Backing up a pc doesn't justify the loss of a computer when the airlines are at fault. If my company and work wasn't important I wouldn't be traveling with my pc.

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Steve New Member

Are the airlines going to offer more than just $1500 for lost luggage, since computers with programs can be more than that alone? Are airlines going to change weight restrictions (before additional charges) on checked luggage, now that we will have to add additional electronics weight? What happens if the airlines lose your luggage that has confidential information, or protected health information? Who pays?

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Abe Guest

@chilangoflyer Thank you for recognizing personal attacks are not appropriate. I also appreciate you agreeing to disagree with me in a respectful manner like an adult. Let me just say that I never said there were no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11. I never said. What I did say was there were no AVAIATION attacks originating, or coming from US soil since 9/11. The same is not true for Europe. Big difference.

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Brian Guest

Maybe if the bloggers would stop writing about this the government would let it go. Also, I cant imagine in this day and age why ANY laptop isn't encrypted and backed up on a regular basis. If it happens to be damaged or stolen, no data should be lost or stolen. It might be inconvenient,but it's not the end of the world like most people think it will be.

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