Should Very Tall Passengers Be Forced To Pay For Seats With More Legroom?

I came across an interesting story about a New Zealand man on a recent Hong Kong Airlines flight. The 6 foot, 6 inch (1.98 metres) man, whose name is, would you believe it, Richard Mountain, was traveling on flight HX27 from Hong Kong to Auckland, which was operated by an Airbus A330-200.

The Otago Daily Times is reporting that he requested a seat with additional legroom at check in, noting his obvious but unique height. He says check in staff assured him he would be given such a seat, but when he boarded he realised he was allocated an ordinary economy seat at check in. SeatGuru says that this aircraft type has an economy pitch of between 30 and 32 inches, which is pretty standard for long haul economy seats.

Being the height he is, he’s not able to physically sit facing forwards in a seat. I can fully understand this — I am 1.82 metres in height so several inches shorter than ‘Mr. Mountain,’ and on low cost carriers with only 29 or 30 inches of pitch my knees are often jammed against the back of the seat in front of me. It’s really uncomfortable.

The passenger was forced to sit sideways, with both feet in the aisle. This was far from ideal, with crew members tripping over his feet several times during the boarding process.

As boarding was completed the crew said to him that the meal service with a large trolley down the narrow aisles would be impossible with his feet in the aisle, and he explained to them he wasn’t physically able to fit in the seat he was given. I thought this would have been pretty obvious given how much taller he would have been than the passengers around him.

There was a set of four exit row seats behind him that was empty, and Mr. Mountain asked the crew if he could move to one of those empty seats.

The crew agreed but demanded he pay an amount of NZ$100 (US$65) to do so, as these seats are usually sold at a premium to other economy passengers.

He explained what he had been assured at check in, and that he was always given a seat with more legroom because of his abnormal height, but the crew refused to waive the payment, so he paid up and the flight continued.

Bottom line

I can see both sides of this argument. Some Passengers Of Size will purchase an additional ‘comfort seat’ next to them in economy to allow themselves more room, if they are unable to fit into the width of a normal seat.

But height is challenging in a different way. These extra legroom seats were initially sometimes provided to extra tall passengers before airlines realised they could make more money charging anyone more to sit in them, regardless of their height.

I agree where a passenger cannot physically fit in a regular seat and there are spare seats with additional legroom, then that passenger should be allowed to take another seat, and should not be charged for doing so. It’s not their fault they are tall.

But if all the extra legroom seats had already been occupied by passengers who had already paid for the privilege, those passengers should not be moved just because someone taller than them could not fit into their seat, regardless of how tall each other passenger is. A 6’6″ passenger can’t insist that a, say 6’2″ passenger be moved, just because 6’6″ is taller. At time of booking and then check in it is first come, first served, just like bassinets.

Anyone over 6 feet is ‘tall’ in my opinion.

Mr. Mountain should have allocated an exit row seat as soon as he booked the flight, as he would have known he would be in agony in a normal seat. He shouldn’t have assumed there would be a seat available at check in, and it would be given to him free of charge. But Hong Kong Airlines, with unsold exit row seats and giant legs blocking service carts, also should not have charged the man once boarding was complete to solve both their problems.

Do you think passengers this tall should be charged for seats with additional legroom? Would you give up such a seat for a passenger who couldn’t physically fit into a regular seat?

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Joe Guest

I just returned to the western US from Italy on a long Lufthansa flight and am offended at the seat selection / assignment process. I woke up at 2:05am while on vacation to be among the first to check-in on the flight. The areas in row 14 that had absolutely massive amounts of legroom all showed already occupied. I selected row 15 and as seating began for the flight, a very short dude wandered through aimlessly and sat in the middle seat in my row. After 5 minutes, a woman said that it was her seat and he only then realized his ticket was for the row with massive leg room. Ugh! The middle section of 3 seats in row 14 were occupied only by a short young woman (20's), who immediately laid down across all three seats as soon as the plane took off, so she didn't even use the legroom. Ugh! The customers are either being clueless or selfish, and the airlines are profiteering off if our collective disability... even if it's only a contextual disability. All the while, the tall people like us are taking it on the chin and being just far too nice about it.

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Seth Guest

Speaking of design elements unfriendly to taller travelers: I’ve noticed most newer long haul trains (Brightline, new Via Rail, new Acela) include fixed neck wings. If you’re over 6’2”, that means a 4 hour ride hunched forward with the neck wings digging into your back. It’s an incredibly inconsiderate design choice that you can’t even buy your way out of.

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Richard Robbins Guest

I’m 6’6” tall and also have a problem with leg room. I always paid the additional fee for comfort economy, which was about $100 to $200. However, those seats are know cost over an additional $1,000. WTF.

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Michael Staff Guest

My wife and I have just returned from a long haul flight where the option of purchasing extra leg room cannot be applied to me any longer, at 6' 3", as I have a acquired a minor mobility disability. The extra leg room is for fit people able to open the exit doors. This I could do but I can't tick the boxes required. On this latest trip my daughter managed to get the airline (Kenyan Airways) to not sell the middle, adjoining, seats so that I could turn in my seat to create the extra space. The other option is, I am told, to upgrade to Business Class. Mmmm! I am aware of moaning a little here, but if the overly large passenger spills over into the adjoining seat and crushes his neighbour doesn't have to pay extra, why is a tall person penalised. Birth against lifestyle? (Incidentally, they charge you for having overweight luggage by the kilo, but never weigh the passengers).

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Simon Guest

We don’t sell exclusive use of disabled toilets to the non disabled and badge them as extra space loos, so why should the tall be charged extra to occupy the only seats they can fit in? Or indeed be excluded from those seats because they weren’t quick enough or willing to pay extra for them. The legroom is not “extra" to us - it’s essential. Just as a disabled person has a right to occupy the wheelchair space on a bus, a tall person should have a right to the seats they can fit in - exit rows and bulk heads. Ethically its the same it’s just the disabled have rights. Forcing long legs into a regular seat is painful, humiliating, often traumatic, and a DVT clot and evacuation risk. Often the only option is to sit in the toilet and pray God speed. Airlines that aren’t sympathetic should be reported. Studies have proved there isn’t enough space to brace and they recommend a 31inch minimum seat pitch. The FAA were told years ago to set a minimum standard but so far have done nothing. In the meantime, we tall suffer like caged animals in transit….. unless we pay the "tall tax”! Perhaps those over a certain height should be recognised as disabled for the purposes of flying…...

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