Qatar 777 Hits Runway Lights, Keeps Flying For 13 Hours

Last week I wrote about American accidentally flying the wrong plane to Hawaii, which wasn’t actually certified for overwater operations. They apparently realized the mistake past the “point of no return,” and then the flight back to the mainland was canceled. That’s a pretty huge oversight on the part of many people, and I don’t think I want to know how big the FAA’s fine for that was!

Well, are you ready for this week’s crazy airline operations story which will leave you shaking your head?

A Qatar Airways 777-300ER flying from Miami to Doha on Tuesday, September 15, 2015, hit the approach lights on departure, experienced “substantial damage”… and kept flying for over 13 hours!

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Via The Aviation Herald:

A Qatar Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration A7-BAC performing flight QR-778 from Miami,FL (USA) to Doha (Qatar), departed Miami’s runway 09 but struck the approach lights runway 27 during departure. Both tower, departure controllers as well as crew maintained routine communication. The aircraft continued to destination for a landing without further incident about 13.5 hours later.

On Sep 17th 2015 the FAA reported the aircraft struck approach lights on departure from Miami and continued to destination. The aircraft received substantial damage to its belly, the occurrence was rated an accident.

This is truly bizarre on many levels:

  • Runway 09 is 13,000 feet long, which is really long, even for a runway at an international airport; how they took up 13,000 feet of runway and still managed to somehow hit the approach lights at the other end of the runway is sort of shocking (below is a diagram of the runway layout, along with some arrows I added to represent the direction in which they were taking off, and where the lights would be located)
  • Pilots carefully calculate the thrust and performance needed to take off, so did they maybe have the wrong weight information before takeoff, resulting in an incident similar to what happened to Emirates 407 in Melbourne in 2009 (whereby they also hit structures at the end of the runway due to incorrect calculations)?
  • Per the METAR, there were virtually no winds at the time of the incident, though there was some rain
  • The fact that the FAA is reporting “substantial damage to its belly” and rates this as an “accident” suggests this isn’t an exaggeration

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Regardless, if you have any damage to a plane before a longhaul flight, it’s utterly perplexing why you wouldn’t turn around. I only see two possible explanations for that:

  • The pilots didn’t realize the incident at the time (maybe they confused the loud noise with the gear being retracted), and only realized it upon landing in Doha
  • The pilots were scared of being fired if they reported it, so made the decision to keep flying — after all, this is Qatar Airways we’re talking about

Bottom line

I’m curious to see if anything comes of this. Hitting any sort of a structure with a plane is a big deal, especially before a longhaul flight with limited diversion points. I can’t imagine any scenario where a plane hits something shortly after takeoff and wouldn’t at least return to the airport as a precaution to make sure everything is okay.

Hopefully a proper investigation is done into what happened here. And perhaps the best way to make sure that happens is to get the story spread around as much as possible, so Qatar Airways is forced to address it from a PR standpoint.

What do you make of this Qatar Airways incident? Anyone have a different take than I do?

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123 Guest

I wonder if this is linked to the 35Bn USD Qatar is investing in the US.

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Jc Guest

There are 2 issues here : 1. Why the crew didn't use the full length? Was it taxiway T1 mistaken as the end of the taxiway and assumed as a full length departure? Look at the airport diagram. Very easy to make that mistake if you are not familiar with the airport. Remember that this crew fly all over the planet. 2. Even more serious is the fact of hitting the lights and not returning to MIA. Performance wise, the aircraft is certified to cross the end of the runway at at least 50ft if you are not airborne before the touchdown zone of the opposite rwy something is definitely wrong. As a pilot you can. Judge your height above the rwy in a daylight but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Did Atc notice the damage to the lights? Did they notify that to the crew? Way to many questions with no answers. It is not a secret in the industry how the middle east companies treat their crews and the punitive culture. There is not legal protection, no union, nothing.... You are on your own. Needless to say what is the mind set of the crew if anything happens. Let's wait and see the final report.

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-- Guest

100,000 of miles sitting in First/business class, a air safety investigation one does not make. Best you keep to swapping frequent flyer miles.... -A 6500 hour, B737-800 captain and air safety investigator.

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losingtrader Member

@Sean: Did you really mean to say "the truth will come to light?" If so, quite funny .

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Captain Ahab Guest

It appears the crew danced with two potential killers on that takeoff. One is using an intersection without proper performance data. In such a case, it is possible to use the wrong intersection or wrong data. The other potential killer is going into the performance look-up with the wrong weight. Too light a weight may result in using the wrong "assumed temperature" and vee speeds. I'm not a proponent of second-guessing crews, but when something "doesn't seem right" it usually isn't, and the pilots who agonize on killer items tend to avoid things like this. It is frightening to think of what could have happened if the hull burst in cruise after being damaged. If you look at the checklists, Boeing warns not to pressurize the plane. Dump fuel and land at the nearest suitable airport.

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