A Shady & Confusing Private Jet Crash In Belize

Plane crashes are usually super sad, though this one is just sort of… plain odd?

An Unmarked Gulfstream Crashes In Belize

As reported by ASN, this Monday a Gulfstream II crashed in Belize. The plane, which was built in 1977, was attempting to land on a dirt road near Blue Creek, Orange Walk, Belize, which is right by a river on the border with Mexico. As you can see, the plane cracked into two.

Where The Story Gets Weird(er)

So, where does this story get suspicious?

  • There was no flight plan for this flight
  • The plane didn’t carry a formal registration, but rather just had the letters “PVO” on one of the engines
  • The plane is believed to be N511TL, which was taken over by an unknown owner in Mexico in November 2017
  • There were no distress calls, and when the crash site was found, there were no people and no cargo, which suggests people were trying to flee the scene

This leads investigators to believe that this plane was being used to transport drugs or other illegal items across the border between Belize & Mexico. It’s believed that there were no casualties, though I guess it’s also possible that there may have been serious injuries or casualties, and there was an attempt to cover up the identity of those people, so they could have been removed from the scene.

I Have So Many Questions

As someone who knows very little about international drug trafficking (other than having seen a countless number of episodes of “Locked Up Abroad”), I am so curious about so many things.

Is it normal for drug traffickers to use private jets to transport drugs? Logically I would have assumed they’d use much smaller planes, which could more easily land places, and also more easily fly under the radar.

Flying under the radar for years with an unmarked Gulfstream just seems like a lot.

Or are these traffickers actually carrying literally a ton or more of illegal substances? Or are they flying really long distances, which is where the Gulfstream would come in handy?

And how many airports are there with proper runways that can accommodate a Gulfstream that still let you fly under the radar? And can you really fly an unmarked Gulfstream for a couple thousand miles without a flight plan without causing problems (assuming that’s the reason for using a plane like that)? Were they actually trying to land a Gulfstream on a dirt strip, or was that an attempted emergency landing?

I imagine a lot of people are being paid off in operations like this, but still… wow!

So. Many. Questions.

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Lucky Charms Guest

Drug runner plane crashes are fairly common in Belize.

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Tal Guest

I actually used to know someone involved in this , he was a very successful businessman but he was like a ghost. He had a private jet business that had 3-5 private planes operating out of cities outside of Mexico City. He mentioned that his pilots were from Columbia. And almost all of his clients were politicians . Turns out he would transport powerful Mexican politicians for free but they were not just transporting politicians but a lot of laundered money, illegal weapons and drug shipments.

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Sholay Guest

There was this story on CNN some time ago: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/17/americas/venezuela-drug-cocaine-trafficking-intl/index.html But this is nothing really new, there is even a piece on it by William Langeweische in Aloft, where he tells his story from early flying career. And obviously - Barry Seal movie ;)

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Jim Guest

Hi Ben, The logistics are actually not that complicated. Something like the Gulfstream 2 involved in this crash can probably be picked up for about $100,000. It'll be clapped out and fit only for scrap, but if you're hauling several tons of cocaine one way, then it's ideal. Whilst I'm sure they didn't mean to crash it, there is a decent chance they meant to abandon it. I have no idea what several tons (anything up to about 4-5 depending upon how much fuel the plane had to carry to get to its destination) of cocaine is worth, but 100k is a drop in the ocean in comparison, making the aircraft disposable. In terms of strips to operate to and from, you'd be amazed at the actual number of airstrips dotted around south and central America. Literally thousands. There is nothing to stop a cartel fueling the aircraft at a private strip, taking off and heading to their destination. In terms of being caught whilst in the air? For starters, I'd image primary radar (ie, it sends out a 'ping' and receives one back showing where you are) coverage is extremely sparse in that part of the world. Where it does exist, it will be subject to all manner of interference making it extremely easy to literally, 'fly under the radar'. If you are seen? Who cares? In five minutes you'll be gone again, and what is going to intercept you? Certainly not the Belizean air force! They barely have one and certainly have nothing that could catch you or pose any threat. If you aren't too bothered about flying the jet again, it is quite feasible to put it down on a mile of relatively straight dirt road. As evidenced above. I'd imagine quite a few clapped out old biz jets end their days in such a fashion. Operating like that into Belize would actually be relatively simple. Much more of a challenge would be going North. I would personally use something with a composite airframe and wooden props, but I guess the economics get tricky regrading payload Vs visibility and the ability to literally abandon your aircraft at a moment's notice. If I didn't have morals I'd be an exceedingly rich man. Hopefully that's cleared up some of your questions, its certainly a bloody interesting topic! Cheers, Jim

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no mane Guest

They had power as we can see that the T/R are deployed. They intentionally landed there .

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