Ritz-Carlton Reserve Goes “Urban,” With Shanghai Hotel: Brands Mean Nothing Anymore

Ritz-Carlton Reserve Goes “Urban,” With Shanghai Hotel: Brands Mean Nothing Anymore

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The boutique Ritz-Carlton Reserve brand will be opening its first city hotel, located in a skyscraper. While I’m sure this property will be nice, it sure makes you wonder what the point of hotel branding is anymore… not that this kind of confusion is anything new nowadays.

Basics of the upcoming Ritz-Carlton Reserve Shanghai

An agreement has been signed for the opening of the Ritz-Carlton Reserve Shanghai, which is supposed to represent the brand’s “debut of the urban Reserve concept, a highly selective extension of the brand created for the world’s leading global gateway cities.”

The 110-key property is expected to open in 2030, and will be located along Shanghai’s North Bund. It’ll be part of the city’s growing number of waterfront developments in the area, and will be part of a mixed-use building that will also feature retail and office spaces, residences, and an observatory deck. Specifically, it’ll be in a building rising approximately 480 meters across 103 floors.

Marriott notes how upon this property’s opening, it’ll make Shanghai the only city in the world where all eight of Marriott’s luxury brands are represented (and that’s simply because this is the first city to get a Ritz-Carlton Reserve property).

As of now, details beyond the above are quite limited. Of course the hotel will have a wellness area, multiple restaurants and bars, etc., but that’s all stuff you’d expect.

With an opening in 2030 best case scenario, I’d give this (at best) 50/50 odds of actually happening anywhere close to the planned timeline. Construction delays for these kinds of projects are incredibly common, if they’re not just scrapped altogether. On top of that, it’s not uncommon to see branding changes ahead of opening for deals that are so far out.

There aren’t yet any interior renderings of the property. For that matter, the press release doesn’t explicitly state whether the hotel will be located at the very top of the building or not. One would hope so, but I also wouldn’t count on it. If it is, it would certainly rank among the world’s highest up hotels.

Ritz-Carlton Reserve Shanghai building rendering
Ritz-Carlton Reserve Shanghai building rendering

The “urban” Ritz-Carlton Reserve explanation is amusing

It goes without saying that across the board, major hotel groups just don’t have brand standards in the way that they used to. They all want to grow their portfolios, because that’s how you make more money, and that often requires compromising on what the core of a brand is.

I mean, just take a look at the evolution of Aman, which has gone from a brand where properties were known for their remoteness, to one opening a hotel in every hotspot.

For those not familiar with Ritz-Carlton Reserve, this is Marriott’s uber-luxury hotel brand, with properties that are supposed to be on a totally different level than standard Ritz-Carlton properties, generally with a smaller size and more personalized service. Up until now, here’s how the Ritz-Carlton Reserve brand has been described:

Time stands still as the joy of discovery is anticipated, embraced and savored. An exploration of an unusual place, the excitement of an unexpected adventure, an indulgence in uncommon luxury. It is Ritz-Carlton Reserve – a rare place set aside for those who appreciate an exotic sanctuary tucked away in the most exquisite corners of the world.

Remote locations handpicked for their lush, unspoiled landscapes. Deeply personal experiences guided by true human connection. An abundance of the world’s greatest luxury: time. These are marks of Ritz-Carlton Reserve.

Of course it would be hard to describe a property in Shanghai as a remote location with unspoiled landscapes, so this concept is now being redefined for urban properties, as follows:

Ritz-Carlton Reserve has long been defined by rare, destination-driven estates that offer privacy, highly personalized service, and a deep connection to place. With the urban Reserve concept, these same principles are thoughtfully reimagined for a select group of the world’s leading global gateway cities. As a highly selective extension of the brand, urban Reserve reflects an intentional approach to growth that preserves the rarity and exclusivity at the heart of the Reserve experience. Rather than serving as a traditional luxury hotel, each urban Reserve is envisioned as a sanctuary within the city, where guests and local communities can engage with the destination through immersive cultural experiences, a deep sense of discovery, and a thoughtfully curated approach to wellbeing. In these dynamic urban environments, the feeling of escape is created not through remoteness, but through exceptional discretion, transformative experiences, and a slower, more intentional rhythm that responds to the evolving aspirations of today’s luxury traveler.

Honestly, do those 154 words tell you anything at all about what sets this apart from something like a JW Marriott, EDITION, or Ritz-Carlton? Actually, I’d argue that all those brands would describe their new properties exactly this way.

It’s just the latest reminder that nowadays you have to select hotels not based on their brand name, but based on their individual merit. Even among the existing Ritz-Carlton Reserve properties, there’s a huge amount of variance. For example, Dorado Beach is actually an excellent Ritz-Carlton Reserve, while Higashiyama feels like a Courtyard by Marriott that was rebranded after the structure was built.

Does this look like what you expect from Ritz-Carlton Reserve?!

Bottom line

The Ritz-Carlton Reserve brand will be coming to Shanghai, with the opening of the first “urban” property in 2030. The 110-key property will be located in a skyscraper, which sure seems like a departure from the promise of “remote locations” with “unspoiled landscapes.”

Of course all brands evolve, now more than ever before, because it’s the only way to grow. I’m sure this’ll be a nice property, I’m just not sure what will actually set this apart, when great wellness areas and dining are the standard at top luxury properties.

What do you make of plans for the Ritz-Carlton Reserve Shanghai?

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  1. John Guest

    @Tim600 for the winning comment.

    One look is all it takes.

  2. Bobby J Gold

    All of the major hotel chains - all of them - are overrun with brands, supposedly to give owners more flexibility. And yet, none of the standards mean anything, so I suppose the owners win however you slice it.

    I would imagine that once we hit a serious economic downturn, consultants will recommend consolidation of brands.

  3. frrp Diamond

    '110 key'? If they lose one, does that mean its 109 forever? Cos if not, its 110 rooms, not keys :)

    Also, what even is that absolute word salad that marriott call a press release? It'll be a hugely overpriced city hotel. People really need to stop just accepting this garbage from companies and just start taking the piss out if more, then they might actually find some honesty.

    1. AlanZ Gold

      Since it is China, they will renumber those floors 7A,14B, and 21C. Now you know your A,B, C's.

    2. Stanley C Diamond

      @frrp

      Ben explained your question in this past article:

      https://onemileatatime.com/insights/hotel-rooms-keys/

    3. Eskimo Guest

      What @frrp?
      100 rooms?
      This RC has no 3br suits. Because that already counts as 7 rooms.

      And most people who stays at RC would be pissed off if their bathroom is not a separate room from the bedroom. So there goes 2 room.

  4. Robert D Guest

    Yes, hotel branding means nothing anymore. For example, Hyatt hotels describe their Centric brand hotels as being “in the heart of the action”. I stayed at the Hyatt Centric Leon Mexico a few weeks ago and it was far from the city center, located amidst fields and next to a Walmart. I also have a Hyatt Centric Cambridge stay coming up, which also appears to be in the middle of nowhere.

    1. Chris_ Diamond

      Not really - "middle of nowhere" is where it's hard to find a hyatt. (such as my upcoming trip to Little Rock, AR - not a single Hyatt option.) However there are lots of Marriott and Hilton properties in the middle of nowhere.

    2. Eskimo Guest

      Would people start realizing Hyatt locations or lack of is the reason they suck very bad.
      Being a Globalist was the best and the most useless hotel status I've had.

      I was scammed by all these influencers who loves freebies but don't really go around much beyond your typical destinations.

  5. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    There are already TWO Ritz-Carlton properties in Shanghai. Now there will be a THIRD? I wonder how many guests will book the wrong Ritz-Carlton or show up at the wrong property. This is beyond stupid.

    The way I see it, a typical Ritz-Carlton Reserve property is essentially what Ritz-Carlton properties used to be, whereas ordinary Ritz-Carlton properties are more like what JW Marriott properties used to be. In other words, Ritz-Carlton Reserve properties are probably...

    There are already TWO Ritz-Carlton properties in Shanghai. Now there will be a THIRD? I wonder how many guests will book the wrong Ritz-Carlton or show up at the wrong property. This is beyond stupid.

    The way I see it, a typical Ritz-Carlton Reserve property is essentially what Ritz-Carlton properties used to be, whereas ordinary Ritz-Carlton properties are more like what JW Marriott properties used to be. In other words, Ritz-Carlton Reserve properties are probably legitimate 5-star hotels, while ordinary Ritz-Carlton properties range from mediocre 4-star hotels to genuine 5-star properties.

    1. Tom Guest

      That is presumably exactly why it needs to be a Reserve a not a regular Ritz (plus there are already two St. Regis properties).

  6. TravelinWilly Diamond

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a lot.

    "rare
    destination-driven
    privacy
    personalized
    connection
    reimagined
    selective
    intentional
    rarity
    exclusivity
    sanctuary
    immersive
    discovery
    thoughtfully
    curated
    wellbeing
    escape
    discretion
    transformative
    intentional (AGAIN)
    aspirations"

    They're at 20 of the buzzword bingo challenge. All they need is five more and we've got an actual bingo CARD. And...

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a lot.

    "rare
    destination-driven
    privacy
    personalized
    connection
    reimagined
    selective
    intentional
    rarity
    exclusivity
    sanctuary
    immersive
    discovery
    thoughtfully
    curated
    wellbeing
    escape
    discretion
    transformative
    intentional (AGAIN)
    aspirations"

    They're at 20 of the buzzword bingo challenge. All they need is five more and we've got an actual bingo CARD. And while everyone loves intentionality, I'm not sure we love it x 2.

    Good dog I hate bullshit like this.

    1. 1990_ Diamond

      Tony, intentional or not, you using 'fee' (as opposed to 'feed'), in this context, hilarious!

  7. dn10 Guest

    Aman, etc has city hotels so I wonder if it will be comparable or what. Either way, hotels like their Ritz safari lodge should be "reserves" and these bigger hotels shouldn't be but that's not the way brand licensing works.

    1. 1990_ Diamond

      I kinda feel the same way about Six Senses. Like, those are supposed to be ‘luxury resorts.’ Think, Zil Payson in Seychelles… not Shanghai. Then again, Aman does have Amanyangyun already sorta near Shanghai (not my fav.)

  8. InternationalTraveler Diamond

    Unfortunately hotels in Shanghai don’t keep up their maintenance. To stay with the Marriott family, I stayed at the Le Meridien when it was brand new and loved it. I visited about 10 years later, lots of wear and tear combined with poor service.

    1. 1990_ Diamond

      Speaking of 'status,' I see you're now an OMAAT 'Gold'... surely, that means something, like 'removes advertisement pop-ups and video'... niccce... (someday, I hope to experience that!)

    2. Peter_ Platinum

      It does make the site usable on my phone again, so that's nice.

      The real question is how to get those OMAAT unpublished tiers. I hear OMAAT Opal is outrageous.

    3. 1990_ Diamond

      If there is an Opal, Willy should have it. He's at like 300,000+ karma (or whatever it's called).

  9. Tim600 Member

    I mean, since the Niseko hotel, Ritz-Carlton Reserve hasn’t meant anything anymore.

    1. Tom Guest

      It presumably means Marriott thinks the location can support a higher ADR than a regular RC and so there’s an opportunity to take a larger fee stream. Otherwise, yes, agree.

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John Guest

@Tim600 for the winning comment. One look is all it takes.

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Bobby J Gold

All of the major hotel chains - all of them - are overrun with brands, supposedly to give owners more flexibility. And yet, none of the standards mean anything, so I suppose the owners win however you slice it. I would imagine that once we hit a serious economic downturn, consultants will recommend consolidation of brands.

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view Gold

Brand dilution here we go

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frrp Diamond

'110 key'? If they lose one, does that mean its 109 forever? Cos if not, its 110 rooms, not keys :) Also, what even is that absolute word salad that marriott call a press release? It'll be a hugely overpriced city hotel. People really need to stop just accepting this garbage from companies and just start taking the piss out if more, then they might actually find some honesty.

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Robert D Guest

Yes, hotel branding means nothing anymore. For example, Hyatt hotels describe their Centric brand hotels as being “in the heart of the action”. I stayed at the Hyatt Centric Leon Mexico a few weeks ago and it was far from the city center, located amidst fields and next to a Walmart. I also have a Hyatt Centric Cambridge stay coming up, which also appears to be in the middle of nowhere.

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