Pie In The Sky: Lufthansa Wants To Be Europe’s Most Premium Airline

Pie In The Sky: Lufthansa Wants To Be Europe’s Most Premium Airline

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I think it’s fantastic when airlines have goals, and want to invest in their passenger experience. However, I can’t help but think that there’s a fine line between committing to improving, and being delusional.

Lufthansa’s CEO has some very, very, very big goals

On April 7, 2026, aeroTELEGRAPH interviewed Lufthansa CEO Jens Ritter (in German) on the Luftraum podcast, which has just been released. Since the name Carsten Spohr is often thrown around in the context of Lufthansa, let me point out that he’s the CEO of Lufthansa Group, the parent company of Lufthansa (and SWISS, Austrian, etc.).

This is a big year for Lufthansa, as the airline is celebrating its 100th anniversary. This was supposed to be the year where everything at Lufthansa turned around, from the passenger experience, to improved profitability (Lufthansa is the least profitable airline in Lufthansa Group).

So, how does Ritter see the current state of things?

  • Ritter says that Lufthansa’s “goal is crystal clear,” and it’s “to become the number one premium airline in Europe”
  • Ritter thinks that Lufthansa is “very, very well positioned, especially for the anniversary year”
  • Ritter claims that Lufthansa is “operating as punctually and reliably as we have in ten years”
  • Ritter says this is a year of a “firework display of innovations,” with a new plane being delivered every two weeks, while the onboard experience is being revamped, in terms of both hard and soft product
  • Ritter acknowledges that “operating an airline in the heart of Europe, with the highest operating costs, is a major challenge,” and the solution is “to work on both sides – a top-quality product for good revenues, but also keeping our costs under control” (in other words, keep setting up new subsidiaries to cut costs
Lufthansa wants 2026 to be its turnaround year

My take on Lufthansa’s goal to be most premium

Admittedly the word “premium” is being thrown around way too much by airlines nowadays. The word doesn’t actually mean a whole lot anymore, especially if you look at it on a global scale (like US carriers bragging about how premium they are, while carriers like Qatar Airways and Singapore Airlines still exist, last I checked).

But look, here’s my fundamental issue with Lufthansa management’s messaging — they’re just not realistic about what the company is, and therefore they continue to set completely unrealistic goals, and consistently miss them.

The prime example of this disconnect is Ritter bragging on April 7 how Lufthansa is “operating as punctually and reliably as we have in ten years.” Three days later, employees starting staging back-to-back-to-back-to-back strikes, which ultimately grounded the airline for around a week.

Did he really not see those strikes coming, or how do you brag about operational reliability, when you basically shut down for a week? And that says nothing of Lufthansa shutting down its CityLine subsidiary overnight to spite employees, leaving many travelers stranded.

Why can’t Lufthansa just set a realistic goal? “Hey, we’d like to be able to compete with British Airways on product, and increase our profits.” That would be a totally fair and realistic goal.

Ritter is making an absolute term — he wants Lufthansa to be the number one premium airline in Europe. I’ve argued that Air France is Europe’s most premium global airline, and it’s not even close. So how does Ritter plan to overtake Air France? Again, he’s not just claiming he wants to catch up, but that he wants to beat every other airline.

So I’ll let Ritter pick any customer segment, as I’d love to hear how Lufthansa will accomplish that? How will Lufthansa’s short haul economy or business class experience be better than Air France’s? How will Lufthansa’s economy, premium economy, business, or first class product be better than Air France’s?

We’ve heard Lufthansa management parrot this “we’re going to be the best in Europe” over and over, but the only thing missing is any substance.

There’s one other point we have to make, and I say this as someone who has a soft spot for Lufthansa (believe it or not), and as someone who is 100% German (in terms of both of my parents being immigrants from Germany, and all of my relatives still living there).

In terms of consumer perception, Germany just isn’t sexy. People look to France for food, wine, fashion, etc., and that just doesn’t extend to Germany. That’s a major uphill battle Lufthansa has in terms of being perceived as premium by customers, especially when you stack that with Lufthansa’s built-in challenges, like high operating costs, which make it hard to over invest to make up for that defecit.

So I’d encourage Lufthansa management to change their tune — aim to be good enough, and to actually deliver on the improvements you want to make (in other words, not taking seven years to actually start installing a new business class). But the “Europe’s most premium airline” thing just isn’t going to happen.

This is still Lufthansa’s most common business class

Bottom line

Lufthansa’s management is reiterating the goal of becoming Europe’s number one premium airline. The airline is currently the least profitable carrier in Lufthansa Group (SWISS has 10x better margins).

While Lufthansa is making progress in terms of its fleet renewal and introducing new cabins, that only allows the airline to catch up with the competition, as I see it, rather than actually leading the industry. I wish Lufthansa could just embrace a realistic goal, of offering an elevated experience and improving its margins, rather than pretending that it’s the Singapore Airlines of Europe (which is just not going to happen, realistically). Love ya, though… sort of.

What do you make of Lufthansa’s premium aspirations?

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  1. deltasax Guest

    Lufthansa will never be premium

  2. Vijay Guest

    Calling a 2‑2‑2 seating configuration “business class” in today’s market is a stretch, let alone world‑class. The overall experience is further let down by onboard catering that isn’t competitive with other airlines.

  3. Mary Guest

    There's nothing premium with business class fares that are so restrictive you lose 100% of the money if you need to change the flight, that don't include seat assignment, and, should you want to pay extortionate prices for seat assignment, it's cognitively taxing to figure out which one of seven (or whatever) levels of sets you want.

    Premium is simplicity. Simplicity has value. Lufthansa has no clue.

  4. B-A=Bad_Air Guest

    Yes, we have our complaints about LH as well. Such as having the audacity to charge $90. CAD each for seat selection per segment on a full fare PE overseas flight from YVR - FRA - CAI return. HOW'S THAT PREMIUM?! Total: $720 CAD!
    Our experience in LH PE was an economy meal that had metal utensils rather than wood or plastic. However if you really want a BAD experience, fly BA Business, SEA...

    Yes, we have our complaints about LH as well. Such as having the audacity to charge $90. CAD each for seat selection per segment on a full fare PE overseas flight from YVR - FRA - CAI return. HOW'S THAT PREMIUM?! Total: $720 CAD!
    Our experience in LH PE was an economy meal that had metal utensils rather than wood or plastic. However if you really want a BAD experience, fly BA Business, SEA - LHR like we did some years back. This flight was so BAD in so many ways it's too much to go into here at this time. Suffice to say, it seemed like the entire crew was badly hungover from their layover in SEA! I'll reserve further comment for another time when an article gets published describing the sorry state of BA. That's a story that needs to be told! BA exists only to make Lufthansa look better, IMHO. ✈️

  5. Unitedglobal Guest

    Lufthansa is so far from premium even without a strike. Their published schedules are merely a suggestion of when flights will arrive or depart give or take 2 hours. Their cabins are woefully outdated. The flight attendants are lovely but the food can be exactly the same on each of two long haul haul segments that connect in Frankfurt. Their lofty goals are laughable.

  6. AeroB13a Guest

    In the World Rankings, LH is noted for being:

    
World's Most Family Friendly Airline.
Most Family Friendly Airline in Europe.

    Are these ‘back-handed awards indicative of the true state of the airline? Evidently the passengers who actually fly LH most definitely think so.

  7. Lob Guest

    The first step would be to delvier in one of the more "German" areas, which is being reliably on time - because I do think that people value this a lot in travel: Prefer a nice caviar amuse-bouche but be 2 hours late? Who knows... Problem ist that many others we're on time while, due to horrendous labor relations, cancelled everything for a week. After only half a year without strikes. There's a looooot of...

    The first step would be to delvier in one of the more "German" areas, which is being reliably on time - because I do think that people value this a lot in travel: Prefer a nice caviar amuse-bouche but be 2 hours late? Who knows... Problem ist that many others we're on time while, due to horrendous labor relations, cancelled everything for a week. After only half a year without strikes. There's a looooot of groundwork yet to be done, and fighting your own staff probably isn't helping the cause all too much.

  8. Samo Diamond

    A more realistic goal would be to at least get on par with Ryanair. Maybe become the highest quality low-cost airline. But the days of Lufthansa being anywhere near premium are long gone and they're not gonna come back in our lifetime.

  9. Christian Guest

    If that last picture of their most common business class is for flights within Europe then Lufthansa is neck-and-neck with Turkish. If it's for long haul flights then there's a long long way to go.

    What Lufthansa needs most desperately is new upper management.

  10. Adam123 Guest

    I had the fortune of spending some days at the HQ doing some meetings two years ago. Also had a friend at the Swiss HQ. What struck me was how little Lufthansa Group management knows about the competitions product. They genuinely believed Lufthansa’s Eurobusiness product is superior to Emirates business. Carefully prodded this, got the distinct impression that nobody at Lufthansa ever flies with the competition. They have discounted or free staff tickets on their...

    I had the fortune of spending some days at the HQ doing some meetings two years ago. Also had a friend at the Swiss HQ. What struck me was how little Lufthansa Group management knows about the competitions product. They genuinely believed Lufthansa’s Eurobusiness product is superior to Emirates business. Carefully prodded this, got the distinct impression that nobody at Lufthansa ever flies with the competition. They have discounted or free staff tickets on their own airline, why fly anyone else? The management truly doesn’t know the competition, they are completely unaware.

  11. AeroB13a Diamond

    There are those who have questioned the status of Turkish Airlines, believing it NOT to be a European Airline. For your information please understand the following:

    The Turkish Airlines hub is located just outside Istanbul, on the European side of the transcontinental city. It is considered by TK and those who matter to be a European Airline.

    TK serves 131 countries (a Guinness World Record) and currently between 311–352 destinations.

    TK’s mainline fleet is around...

    There are those who have questioned the status of Turkish Airlines, believing it NOT to be a European Airline. For your information please understand the following:

    The Turkish Airlines hub is located just outside Istanbul, on the European side of the transcontinental city. It is considered by TK and those who matter to be a European Airline.

    TK serves 131 countries (a Guinness World Record) and currently between 311–352 destinations.

    TK’s mainline fleet is around 380–410 aircraft, depending upon how one chooses to count subsidiary carriers.

    TK does not currently offer a First Class cabin, however, its Business Class is an excellent cabin and offers a top-class experience. Many of us find it comparable in comfort and service to what other airlines like LH, call First Class.

    This is why LH has one huge hill to climb if it has aspersions of knocking TK from its “Best European Airline” podium position. Also why Ben’s “Pie in the Sky” header is plausible.

    1. Udo Diamond

      The ‘many of us’ reminds me of someone high profile in the US who tends to point out that ‘many people say’ xyz to bolster his outlandish views. Not saying you’re mistaken, but I can’t help but wonder who thinks that TK’s business class is comparable to mainline EU carriers first class.

    2. AeroB13a Guest

      Udo, to help you with your understanding:

      https://www.worldairlineawards.com/a-z-airline-awards-winners-2025/

      Don’t take my word for it simply follow the link until you reach TK. From my own experience I fully concur with the findings too.

    3. deltasax Guest

      Turkish is not a European airline and Turks aren't White.

  12. John Guest

    Lufthansa has as much chance of becoming 'premium' as Air Zimbabwe does. If you've ever flown Air France first class and business class, you know Lufthansa will never be on top in Europe, much less the world.

  13. Hans Guest

    This article makes a lot of good points but “In terms of consumer perception, Germany just isn’t sexy” is not one of them. BMW, Mercedes, Audi…

  14. Watson Diamond

    Lufthansa: Ryanair quality at Air France prices!

    I do prefer FRA and MUC over LHR and CDG though. So I suppose they've got that going for them, which is nice.

  15. David Guest

    Regardless of how good their hard product will be, it's invariably a bad experience with LH because the staff and crew treat you like ****.

    And LH will never be the most profitable airline in Europe.
    Germany's decentralised State structure works well in many ways.
    But it does not serve the interests of the flag carrier.
    There are simply insufficient people living in FRA's catchment area to enable LH to rival BA/LHR and AF/CDG in terms of profitability.

  16. PeteAU Guest

    Lufthansa intends to be Europe's most premium airline! In other news, Biman Bangladesh intends to become Asia's most premium airline, leaving Singapore, Cathay, EVA, and JAL in the dust. I mean, there's about the same probability, right?

  17. Pierre Diamond

    30 to 40 years ago, Lufthansa WAS the 2nd most premium airline in Europe, behind Swissair. Their downfall ("Untergang") came with their creation of a Business Class which they completely missed. I can even say why: While most airlines saw Business Class as a step down from First Class (which it was eventually destined to replace), Lufthansa saw it as a step UP from Economy, and they started to make Economy miserable to increase the...

    30 to 40 years ago, Lufthansa WAS the 2nd most premium airline in Europe, behind Swissair. Their downfall ("Untergang") came with their creation of a Business Class which they completely missed. I can even say why: While most airlines saw Business Class as a step down from First Class (which it was eventually destined to replace), Lufthansa saw it as a step UP from Economy, and they started to make Economy miserable to increase the difference between the 2 classes (what most airlines now do with Premium Economy which, even at your beloved Air France, is nothing but a part of Economy for those who would never admit that they are flying Coach).

    Maybe 5 airlines in the World, the usual ones, treat Premium Economy as a wholly separate class. Removing the name "Economy" from "Premium Economy", as AF and others do, is the deception of the decade. No doubt that Lufthansa will do it soon and catch up with the others. The real names for those 2 "classes" should be "Economy" (for the present PE) and "Steerage" for the lowest category.

    1. John Guest

      AF/KLM Premium Comfort (their name for Premium Economy) is actually quite good. Both in hard and soft product. It is a separate cabin (unlike LH) and have much better food and drinks compared to Economy (unlike LH). AF have some old planes with hard shell PC but they are being updated and a minority. LH older Premium Economy seat (non hard shell) was actually very comfortable - if only they invested in better food &...

      AF/KLM Premium Comfort (their name for Premium Economy) is actually quite good. Both in hard and soft product. It is a separate cabin (unlike LH) and have much better food and drinks compared to Economy (unlike LH). AF have some old planes with hard shell PC but they are being updated and a minority. LH older Premium Economy seat (non hard shell) was actually very comfortable - if only they invested in better food & drinks and a separation wall from Economy ! Their new PY have nicer IFE screens and better looking seats but no proper recline and horrible IFE box cutting legroom.

  18. Sascha Guest

    Is he really unrealistic? I don’t think so. If you judge by F tickets only, yes, Air France will win hands down. But is AF really better in C compared to allegris? I’m personally no big fan of the new LH cabin as I usually fly leisure with family (and allegris sucks with kids) but I can totally see how you could put LH on top there for business travellers. I certainly do like LHs...

    Is he really unrealistic? I don’t think so. If you judge by F tickets only, yes, Air France will win hands down. But is AF really better in C compared to allegris? I’m personally no big fan of the new LH cabin as I usually fly leisure with family (and allegris sucks with kids) but I can totally see how you could put LH on top there for business travellers. I certainly do like LHs European business product better than AFs (ok, both are crap, but so is everybody in Europe) I can’t say anything about Eco, but I heard people were quit happy with the new LH Hard product.
    But what I find far more important: I feel safer with Lufthansa. LH technic to me is really a argument to choose LH. And BA or LH safety record is - in my opinion - a premium criteria, especially compared to AF.
    Overall, the big European carriers are not that far apart. It’s not unrealistic to want to lead the pack, wenn the pack still runs neck to neck. If Ritter had said he wanted to surpass SQ in terms of premium, I’d said he’s crazy. But with Europes peer group? Totally doable.
    Now, will they achieve it? I totally don’t think so. :-)

  19. Chris Guest

    Ah, so “premium” à la Delta.

  20. Ken Guest

    After this they just removed the carry on allowance from economy. The inconsistencies between what they say and what they do is just beyond anything I have seen before, worse than al baker, who at least delivered something

  21. LH_Is_A_Joke Guest

    I just cashed out most of my Aeroplan miles for a J flight FRA-West Coast US in 2027.

    A343 with footsie J, bay-bee! Feel that 2007 quality non-touchscreen IFE!

    "Very, very well positioned, especially for the anniversary year" my left foot. BA to my city? Lie flat aisle access suites. DL? Lie flat aisle access suites. AF? Guess what, lie flat aisle access suites.

    Tell me some more jokes, LH Group CEO.

    (It's not like...

    I just cashed out most of my Aeroplan miles for a J flight FRA-West Coast US in 2027.

    A343 with footsie J, bay-bee! Feel that 2007 quality non-touchscreen IFE!

    "Very, very well positioned, especially for the anniversary year" my left foot. BA to my city? Lie flat aisle access suites. DL? Lie flat aisle access suites. AF? Guess what, lie flat aisle access suites.

    Tell me some more jokes, LH Group CEO.

    (It's not like the Aeroplan miles were going to get more valuable over time so OK, fine, J in a museum piece.)

  22. Ben Holz Guest

    LH has such delays, that this podcast was posted 6 days after its inteded day (April 1st)

  23. AeroB13a Guest

    Currently, the best European Airline is considered to be Turkish. From experience I would have to concur, however, my recent AF La Premiere flight was outstanding.

    Sorry LH, but my last flight (747 in F) was well below average in so many respects. They have one huge mountain to climb to beat Turkish J even.

    1. Nic123 Guest

      You did not read the article, Lufthansa said best European Airline.
      Turkish is an Asian Airline.

    2. AeroB13a Guest

      Nic, you know nothing about the geography of the region or the status of Turkish Airlines. It would be too easy for me to point out the error of your ways, however, your ignorance is likely to persist without you doing your own research, ask Mr Google yourself, numpty.

    3. Bubba Guest

      Okay. Would you accept "Best European airlines, except, of course, for European airlines that are exclusively based in Asia Minor?"
      Not that the culture across the Bosporus isn't entirely respectable, but rather, we'll grant that Turkish — and Aegean for that matter — kicks western European butt on most metrics. But let's move the goalposts to talk about flights where they can't compete.
      Incidentally, I switched to AF/KL for most of my business...

      Okay. Would you accept "Best European airlines, except, of course, for European airlines that are exclusively based in Asia Minor?"
      Not that the culture across the Bosporus isn't entirely respectable, but rather, we'll grant that Turkish — and Aegean for that matter — kicks western European butt on most metrics. But let's move the goalposts to talk about flights where they can't compete.
      Incidentally, I switched to AF/KL for most of my business ten years ago. At the time, LFG was generally better, even in Euro short haul. Now I've got to fly LFG again with some regularity, and dang Air France did not win this competition by getting better. But they won it beyond a doubt

    4. Michael_FFM Diamond

      Where is Ankara, the Turkish capital located again?

    5. AeroB13a Guest

      Micheal, your dog eared ignorance is noted. You can now go back to sleep and dream about Mr ‘rump’s likelihood of becoming a World Class Statesman …. you are correct Gunga Din, not as long as you keep talking through your posterior orifice, yes?

    6. Samo Diamond

      TK doesn't operate from Ankara (except to IST), it operates from IST which is located in Europe. With the exception of few obscure routes which make up less than 0.1% of TK's network, all TK flights are to/from Istanbul and thus Europe.

    7. Adam123 Guest

      Turkish Airlines is close enough and operates a tight enough European network, that they are definitely a direct competitor to Lufthansa. Getting hung up on a geographical debate is irrelevant, a European passenger can book Turkish just as well as Lufthansa. The detour to Istanbul isn’t massive for most of Europe, no longer than a 3 or 4 hour connection if you are headed to North America. And frankly, Turkish short haul economy beats Lufthansa short haul business.

  24. yoloswag420 Guest

    It's really not that hard to be a premium airline, it's just that all these airlines are focused on minimizing costs and cutting down on product rather than the other way around.

    Modern seats/tech for hard product, proper pax to staff ratios for better service, improved catering in-flight and for the lounges, etc. There's nothing difficult to figure out here.

  25. Throwawayname Guest

    The bit about Germans being incapable of delivering good quality service is both inaccurate and indicative of thinking tainted by prejudice (and harbouring prejudice against one's own country isn't unusual in Europe). Whether specifically Lufthansa can do it obviously is a different question.

    1. Eskimo Guest

      Here's your participation trophy and champion medal.

      You can be anyone and do anything when you grow up.
      If someone tells you otherwise, it's prejudice.

      You end up being a brainwashed hypocrite snowflake society freeloader because you're trying to be someone doing something to change the world but you're actually useless to society.

    2. Throwawayname Guest

      That's pure nonsense. Cognitive biases play a huge role in our lives and will be useful in some circumstances- they certainly would've worked for our ancestors when trying to decide things like whether something was safe to eat.

      They're a lot less helpful for assessing issues such as whether a country of 85 million inhabitants could contain sufficient financial and human capital for creating a high quality airline.

    3. Eskimo Guest

      In your own words, it's a bias.

      So rather than providing someone out of 85 million a winner's trophy, you'd give 85 million participation trophy that say maybe one of us are capable, you can do it. It's only just prejudice to tell you that you can't.

      And now here's a trophy for you for your effort against prejudice.

  26. Rain Guest

    I take his statement to mean that they want to become the most profitable "premium" airline rather than the most premium. Here premium is probably used purely to separate themselves from the LCCs (though it's hard to notice the difference on intra Europe economy between them and EasyJet)
    My guess is that they plan on further ripping off, sorry, optimising their net income from flying, taking advantage of their monopoly, sorry, I mean dominant...

    I take his statement to mean that they want to become the most profitable "premium" airline rather than the most premium. Here premium is probably used purely to separate themselves from the LCCs (though it's hard to notice the difference on intra Europe economy between them and EasyJet)
    My guess is that they plan on further ripping off, sorry, optimising their net income from flying, taking advantage of their monopoly, sorry, I mean dominant position, over the Central European market

  27. CRS- Guest

    This is such an opinion piece.

  28. John Guest

    Lufthansa's main customer base in premium cabins - the German corporate traffic will start evaporating in the next 10 years due to de-industrialization. Their fate is going to be smaller intra-Europe LCC with some long haul routes with O&D demands in about 15 years aka Air Europa.

  29. Adam Guest

    Germany does (or did) have a reputation for quality and efficiency. They could ride that. Be the BMW of the skies, the punctual German train of the skies.

    But with the strikes and the seat delivery delays and all, they're not doing well in this department either.

    1. Jack Guest

      I've owned Mercedes, BMW, and VW. Don't kid yourself. If you get a flat tire on a BMW, the sensors lock the engine -- you can't change the tire yourself, you must tow the car to a service center. If your battery goes dead, the sensors lock the engine -- you can't jump the battery, you must tow the car to a service center. To me, that's German engineering. Never again.

    2. Eskimo Guest

      It took you 3 German cars before you realize Japanese engineering is more practical.

    3. AeroB13a Guest

      Sorry Jack, that information is pure false information, plain and simply balderdash old bean.

    4. Glidescope Guest

      I've owned many BMWs, and right now drive a 2024. In no case has the sensor in the car ever locked the engine in the case of a zero pressure event of a tire. I live in the Northeast, so I can tell you this happens often. You can continue to drive, but it's certainly needs a replacement. And you can have anyone change the tires, as long as they can reset the TPMS sensors.

      ...

      I've owned many BMWs, and right now drive a 2024. In no case has the sensor in the car ever locked the engine in the case of a zero pressure event of a tire. I live in the Northeast, so I can tell you this happens often. You can continue to drive, but it's certainly needs a replacement. And you can have anyone change the tires, as long as they can reset the TPMS sensors.

      And most modern cars, especially electric ones, need to be taken to the service center. The old concept of just jumping the battery doesn't work on today's complex cars.

    5. AeroB13a Guest

      Glidescope, your information is only partially accurate as far as UK and RSA spec cars are concerned. Petrol and diesel engined cars can be jump started. BMW even fit designated terminals under the bonnet for such activities. BMW PHEV’s and pure EV’s I have no experience of.

      Any competent driver should be able to reset the TPMS in the appropriate menu. They should do this regularly every time the top up the tyre pressures.

    6. John Guest

      > the punctual German train of the skies.

      Hahahaha, when was the last time you took a DB train ? Or were you thinking of Swiss ?

    7. Frank B Diamond

      Deutsche Bahn, because someone needs to run later than TrenItalia.

  30. Derick Guest

    Maybe they could lean into being Europe’s most punctual airline ?
    Europe’s quietist airline by implementing Ruhezeit ?

  31. Andy Diamond

    Well, that's the ambition of many, but most are closer to it ... Dreadful seating (except in F), flex fares with cancellation fees, endless strikes, are not typically premium.

  32. Alert Guest

    What LH can do is add a monthly fee , for 3 years , on each ticket so the airline can continue it's service . After your flight , you can continue paying the monthly fee .

  33. AeroB13a Guest

    Ben, titled this article “Pie In The Sky: Lufthansa Wants To Be Europe’s Most Premium Airline”. How could anyone argue against that statement?
    One is not holding our breath while we await to read any nonsense the optimists may consider posting.

  34. Espresso_Frankfurt Member

    Better do away with those new BE fare restrictions then. Still, I believe if they do deliver, then the world will have no trouble acknowledging them as superior to Air France. The problem is, this will likely never come close.

  35. Ross Guest

    An Oscar statuette belonging ​to the Russian director who won best documentary this year for "Mr. Nobody ‌Against Putin" has been found after going missing on a flight from New York to Germany, German airline Lufthansa said on Friday. TSA agents said it posed a security threat and had to be checked luggage.

    1. Icarus Guest

      Oscars are always permitted in cabin bags . There is no security risk. Likely an inside job (via the TSA, cough cough) . No airline would ever be able to compensate for that, but hopefully the Academy will provide a replacement.

  36. TravelinWilly Diamond

    I'm embarrassed for them.

    The first thing they'll need to do if they're serious about being the Delta of Europe (heh) is fire Karsten Spohr.

    1. Nasir Guest

      @TravelinWilly
      *Carsten
      Don't be messy like Lufthansa, sweetheart.

    2. John Guest

      @TravelinPENIS....you're embarrassed for them? You have as much chance of being noticed by Lufty as Tim Dunn has of getting laid.

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Ken Guest

After this they just removed the carry on allowance from economy. The inconsistencies between what they say and what they do is just beyond anything I have seen before, worse than al baker, who at least delivered something

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TravelinWilly Diamond

I'm embarrassed for them. The first thing they'll need to do if they're serious about being the Delta of Europe (heh) is fire Karsten Spohr.

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There are those who have questioned the status of Turkish Airlines, believing it NOT to be a European Airline. For your information please understand the following: The Turkish Airlines hub is located just outside Istanbul, on the European side of the transcontinental city. It is considered by TK and those who matter to be a European Airline. TK serves 131 countries (a Guinness World Record) and currently between 311–352 destinations. TK’s mainline fleet is around 380–410 aircraft, depending upon how one chooses to count subsidiary carriers. TK does not currently offer a First Class cabin, however, its Business Class is an excellent cabin and offers a top-class experience. Many of us find it comparable in comfort and service to what other airlines like LH, call First Class. This is why LH has one huge hill to climb if it has aspersions of knocking TK from its “Best European Airline” podium position. Also why Ben’s “Pie in the Sky” header is plausible.

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