Hotel Commissions On Tours — How Much Is Too Much?

I’ve just wrapped up an incredible two days in Kazakhstan, and managed to tour both Almaty and Astana for a bit, despite the limited time I had. I decided to arrange tours through the hotels in both cities in advance, since I wanted to be sure the experience was as seamless as possible given my limited time.

Both tours were great. I loved one of the cities, while the other city was just “meh” (I’ll share my thoughts on the two cities in a follow-up post).

I don’t want to throw the hotel or tour guide under the bus, but there was something that came up that surprised me. The more I think about it, the more I’m conflicted about how to feel.

When you book a tour through a hotel, do you expect the hotel to take a commission? I can see both sides:

  • On one hand the concierge should be viewed as a service, so I tend to think that by paying for a room at a hotel you’re paying for access to a helpful and knowledgable concierge
  • On the other hand, I realize many people work on a commission (heck, I’m no exception), so I don’t fault them for taking a cut

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In general I’d prefer if their cut comes on the back end, much like with travel agents. For example, as an industry standard, when travel agents book hotels they’re getting a 10% commission, though consumers are paying the same regardless of whether or not they book through a travel agent.

I guess it’s also not unreasonable if the concierge charges some sort of a fee. At least I wouldn’t think twice about it, since I value the convenience.

However, during one of the tours I took, the topic of hotel commissions inadvertently came up. Towards the end of the tour I said “How much is it, and can I charge this to the room, or do I pay you in cash?”

She said cash would be great, and then said she’d pay the hotel their portion. She apologized for how expensive the tour was, saying that the hotel takes a big cut. I could immediately tell she regretted saying that and she apologized for bringing it up.

But naturally I was curious. She gave me her business card, and as a way of figuring out just how much of a cut the hotel was taking, I said that I’d be sure to tell any friends who visit to use her, and asked how much she’d charge directly for such a tour.

She said “about one third of the cost.”

I was a bit taken aback. When she said she’d pay the hotel their cut I figured it was maybe 10-20%. But the hotel is basically inflating prices and charging me about triple the cost of a tour? That seems a bit ridiculous.

Priced in USD it was still very reasonably priced (given how weak the currency here is), but at the same time something doesn’t feel right about the hotel taking two thirds of the money that I paid for an outside tour.

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Where do you stand on this — is it okay for hotels to charge undisclosed add-on fees/big commissions for tours they arrange, and if so, how much is too much?

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ayql83 New Member

I used a local tour company when I visited Kazakhstan and its surrounding countries last year. In general, I think it is cheaper to organize your own tours in advance if possible when you visit the countries to ensure that you are getting the best price. But you are right, hotels can charge a slight markup but not too much for organizing tours. When I went to Japan last year, the concierge at the hotel helped me and my sister booked a day tour at the last minute and there were no additional charges except for the actual cost of the tour. I could have booked it online but it was more convenient for the concierge to book and confirm the tour for us.

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shanti Guest

If only you had access to a knowledgeable luxury travel guru - and not just a tart milking you.

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Retired Traveler Guest

Add me to those defending @Lucky. I'm disappointed in the many nasty comments that appear. Unfortunately many hotels charge outrageous sums for their extra services. For tours, you're paying for the added convenience, security and (hopefully) stable, consistent, highly-valued offering. On the other hand, paying $14US to have a shirt laundered in Prague, or 2X the going rate for "town cars" because there is an exclusive contract for taxi service pickup, is very under-handed (H!lton, are you listening?)

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AlexS Diamond

I think commissions should be pointed out. I have no problem with people making an honest profit... but often it's well beyond honest. I'd also prefer to give as much $ to the person actually providing the service rather than padding the pockets of people who aren't. I love finding local guides through word-of-mouth with friends/business associates, even FT.

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emercycrite Guest

@elteetrav - Very eloquently put.

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