In March 2023, SWISS officially unveiled its new first and business class, which the airline is marketing as ”SWISS Senses.” I’d like to take an updated look at this, as the airline has today revealed more details about these cabins, ahead of the imminent launch.
Continue reading: SWISS Senses: New First & Business Class Cabins, A La Lufthansa Allegris
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Welcome change. Swiss currently has some of the hardest beds in the sky. They also tend to keep the cabin temperature too hot.
Not a very appealing business class cabin - too many seats right on the aisle, and really nothing for couples traveling together. LH Group should exit the seat design business immediately.
You write, that Swiss will have more premium cabin than LH because of seven extra seats in Business class...
Really? And you do not mention the meagre number of Lavatories? Only two for 47 passengers? I sense Swissness, yes...
When one toilet gets gaga, as often happens, it will be double the fun.
Have you heard the news?
LH Group owns LX. LX didn't "essentially just" copy a thing; LH put identical hardware on LX as LH has on its widebodies, to harmonize the hard product.
Being assigned to one of those double first class seats could be a fun way to make a new friend...
LH/LX really crapped the bed with this Allegris BS. From announcing it 30 years ago to to the implementation to the pricing to the reliability, all of it.
Confusing, overcomplicated (Pricing - e.g., charging for window seats for non-elites? Really? Pricing the middle seats at € 2,700, or free, depending on timing of seat assignments. Over-engineered from top to bottom. Under-engineered where it matters - letting all the galley light into the middle suites. The list goes on), rolling it out in a seemingly unpredictable manner, etc.
It's nice to think there are three first class options for flights to S. Africa - LX, LH, and EK (BA doesn't merit a mention). As of now, EK is the only reliable game in town, and their "old" suite hard product outshines LH's current first class in all dimensions.
I've heard that Allegris first class seats break even the strongest frequent fliers due to the convoluted setup and light pollution
Yes. Also, balkanizing the business class cabin by not giving all suites doors is petty monetization that cheapens the overall experience. Go doors or go no doors, segmenting J is classless and tacky
No one has mentioned this, but those first class doors are already 1/4 beat to sh!t. When closed, the material doesn't fit together in an aesthetically pleasing way because whatever they built it out of isn't hardy enough
Because it's a shorter route and can operate (conceivably) with one plane for the round-trip journey.
This must be the most long awaiting and underwhelming business class seat to date. We can talk about the new hard product on AA, but that is expected.
Lufthansa decided to make something unique that it is not remarkable at all.
It is not a game changer. It it just another business class seat that only differentiate itself from the rest by having all these different layouts. And that's it.
I'd rather strap into a cargo hold seat in the back of a C130 than deal with this segmented J nonsense
Oh no, not another double suite disaster. I hoped that Swiss would have avoided the German bureaucratic decisions and ended up with a more functional product.
Let’s not forget the mess they’re making of 747-8, with Allegris on the main deck and their current “business class” seats on the upper deck. Why does anyone pay money for LH business class?
Swiss should scrap the whole senses/allegris thing and just keep their old planes. F was really nice (even for the missing caviar) and plentiful. Business was ok generally especially if you got the throne and on the ground for F and Hon was great. They should re-do the soft product and plan the next upgrade and just copy Air France on the inflight hard and soft product and save themselves hundreds of millions of euros and francs and humiliation. 24 years of total loyalty to LH and LX and 13 years of HON and this is the most underwhelming, overblown, over engineered and waste of money “upgrade” I’ve ever seen. Depressing to see the Germans and Swiss Germans fail at was their greatest strength: engineering. I don’t think they will see any competitive gains and resulting profits and then, finally, Spohr will have to face the music for his ineptitude.
STILL no air vents at each seat. So you're at the mercy of the FAs and how cold or hot they get. Will not fly ANA, SWISS, or LUFTHANSA bc of this. UA, DL, AA... thank you for keeping the cabin at 65 and cold.
I flew in Lufthansa's Allegris with my wife recently, and thought the whole thing a dogs dinner.
Granted, if you were travelling solo and had one of the window adjacent seats it might be quite decent. But for a couple, its horrible, with the back of the seat in front poking right between you and making communication nigh impossible. It actually feels more claustrophobic than the old business class. The whole cabin feels a labyrinthian mess.
The return flight had the old product, and we preferred this one by far.