I’ve gotta hand it to New York’s most well-known (notorious?) air traffic controller — this is how you can be sassy without being a total jerk. Well, maybe he’s still being a bit of a jerk, but it’s an improvement…
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No, it wasn't handled well. It's better than the usual US ATC standards but still extremely unprofessional. Frequency is not the place to have chit chats or scold others. If anything, it causes unnecessary stress that may lead to a more serious mistake. Just tell the pilot they took the wrong turn and what the next instructions are FFS. It's an airport, not a bar.
Agree with Samo. “That Guy” remains a jerk, and likely knows it. His run-on sentences and non-standard phraseology only lead to more confusion. Stop defending him. What a mess he must be to work with. And as a trainer, can you imagine the slop he’s passing on? (I’m former ATC.)
Too many planes , too many flights , too many airlines taking advantage of taxpayers who pay for ATC and infrastructure .
Solution : restrict number of flights and charge airlines high fees for infrastructure and ATC .
What strikes me is how easy it would be to mis-hear "D" vs "B", particularly when the speaker and listener might have different accents. It would seem better in this case to have used the Phonetic Alphabet (Dog and Baker - you wouldn't want to use "Delta" for "D") as encouraged by the FAA.
"So I actually appreciate the approach he takes here: he specifically says he’s not going to yell..."
So "not yelling" is the floor for professionalism for ATC? This guy is, and always will be, an assho!e, and if the only counseling he's received for his unprofessionalism in the past is "stop yelling" then there needs to be some top-to-bottom retraining at JFK ATC.
I love your comments. When they're not racist or sexist, they're just dumb.
"[snip]...airlines taking advantage of taxpayers who pay for ATC and infrastructure.
Solution : [snip]...charge airlines high fees for infrastructure and ATC ."
Really? You don't seem to realize that the higher fees you're suggesting that the airlines pay end up getting passed onto the passengers you seem so eager to protect.
Solution for you: Think things through before you post. And don't be sexist and racist.