There really is no limit to how low some hotels in the United States will go when it comes to nickel-and-diming guests.
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I just associate Holiday Inn with taking the government $ to house illegals and I've been boycotting them for years,
The Holiday Inn Express in Durango, Colorado charges a similar green energy recovery fee.
The Westin Houston Medical Center/Museum District in Houston, Texas charged a historic preservation fee that was actually meant to recoup their renovations.
The HEI-managed Westin in Fort Lauderdale charged guests a service fee if they paid using a Marriott credit card.
How incredibly expensive is electricity over there, that they need $12.95 (plus tax?) PER NIGHT for just one hotel room? I usually love some absurd humor, but this is beyond me. This sounds more like a scam than anything else. If I had to pay $12.95 in electricity for every room in my house, every single day, I'd be bankrupted in a few weeks. That'd be a few thousand dollars per month (plus tax).
Agreed with Ben: include it in the overall changed price, this will give tons of bad reviews and it gives Holiday Inn an even worse name than it already has (over here at least).
Obviously this isn't good. But I don't understand while businesses just don't bake fees into their room rate. It's never a good look to have a separate line item. Restaurants, coffee shops or hotels. It never looks good because customers will always feel cheated.
The short answer is that owners will do this until guests no longer accept it. This property has 4.5 stars on both Google and the IHG site, so they have zero incentive to make any changes. Heck, they could probably get away with a parking fee.
Great Blog on these “fees” and why hotel owners are not motivated to abolish them without customers saying no and voting with their feet!
https://www.siteminder.com/r/hotel-fees/
At the Aloft Raleigh-Durham Airport Brier Creek, I had an undisclosed “airport convenience fee” of about 10% and also a 3% “credit card convenience “ fee added to my bill. The airport convenience fee is not a tax and it wasn’t charged during a stay a few months prior. Neither were disclosed at booking or check in. Still waiting to hear from Marriott corporate.
It's a complete scam. Even based on residential rates (which surely they are not paying), according to NV Evergy $12.95 would cover over 100kWh of energy usage in a single day. That's like charging two standard Tesla Model 3s from 0-100% PER DAY, per room. Either they have the world's most energy inefficient building or it's a total scam. Wonder which lol
Well I have pulled IHG and Holiday inn Express specifocally off my booking choices as well as my immediate family when I am.coverimg the bills. I refuse to be nickel and dimed at every corner. Put a daily rate in the reservation and call it a day.
If that fee is supposed to be honest, well then $13 in energy is about equal to running 2 hair dryers on full blast for 24 hours of the entire time of your stay with them. That's somewhat hard to believe even if you count all the lighting and heating of the common areas as attributable to guests needing to pay for it.
Definitely it's on the side of a cash grab because-they-can.
I recently stayed at the Moxy Frankfurt Airport, and when I checked in was charged an additional "city tax" or something along those lines. I haven't ever been charged an additional amount at check-in on a prepaid rate but I didn't think much of it at the time since it was only 2 Euro and I figured maybe it's normal overseas. Obviously aside from in Elko it never really seems to happen much in the US but are additional fees at check in normal in Europe?
Yeah, many cities charge these. Italy, Greece, Germany... But at least it is a real tax that goes directly to the city.
Yes, it is normal. Cities in eg. Italy, Greece, Germany tend to charge these. But at least it is a real tax and goes straight to the city.
The H Hotel by LAX has a daily line item fee for Safety and Protection of their employees at $10.00 plus fees=$12.95 each day... I never saw any security staff in or near the lobby or other areas. I asked the staff How they were protected with this fee and no one knew the answer..
“ Staying at a hotel in the United States is just frustrating more often than not, with a business model in line with what you’d expect from an ultra low cost carrier”. In the US case, legacy carriers also behave like this, so you can’t deny there is consistency… lol
Holiday Inn in Williams, Arizona right outside of the grand canyon has the same energy surcharge due to the high energy costs and lack of nearby infrastructure.
3% credit card fee yet they will require a credit card when you check in.
I'd like to see someone pay in cash and then try to dispute the fee. Will they take it back?
You must use cc to make a reservation of any kind, such as accommodation, restaurant, airline etc.... I do not see how you pay cash at a chain hotel when they pre-charge you days/ weeks in advance, depends on its policy. If you want to pay cash at check-in, you will face a headache of reversing the prepaid charge. As for a "city tax" in Europe, I assume it is equivalent to the "occupancy tax" here that goes directly into city/ county coffer. You have to tolerate the abuses from chain hotels if you want to maintain in the loyalty program. You have a choice to stay at independent hotels. I do not make domestic travel and avoid all the abuses and mistreatment from chain hotels, legacy airlines or national car rental companies.
In most civilized countries, charging a fee or service that has not been pre-agreed or clearly shown is a breach of what in the UK is called the Trade Descriptions Act. You can refuse to pay it also under Contract Law as it was not part of the "contract" - which may state they have the right to charge fees but the law also says that all terms of a contract MUST be known by the contractee.
Threaten legal action or just simply pay CASH to the amount you originally agreed to and walk out.
Absurd is right. All of us need to vote with our wallets and make it known that we will not return to places that charge fees like this, and post reviews letting others know about it.
Sometimes it is the individual hotel trying to scam.
But it may also be the corporation testing the waters, take some
small out of the way hotel and test the scam. They risk less embarrasment if exposed and can claim it was the hotel's idea.
Sort of like doing focus panals on new products.
Shamefully all around charging these fees, for any of the hotel corporations.
Holiday Inn at Tampa Airport
Looks like the effort to "Nickel & Dime" guests throughout the Holiday Inn network is gathering pace
I recently stayed at the Holiday Inn near Tampa Airport
I have stayed many times in the past but since Covid the owners have closed the lounge, initiated a refit of the rooms, which now have the same design & decor as most Holiday Inn Express locations I have stayed at , then they increased prices and what really annoyed me, they have now instituted a "Parking Fee" where previously there was no charge ... and this is "self parking" not the fancy "Valet Parking
If anyone wishes to see what being "Nickel & Dimed" is all about, book a stay here
I agree with this, but respectfully submit that civilized countries also don't jail people for posting nasty things on Facebook.
I love this one: a "green energy recovery fee". What utter BS! Let's find a way to rip our customers off. Let's give it a meaningless title (energy recovery, as if we need the $ to somehow recover energy). Oh, and label it "green" so that idiots will actually believe it helps the Earth or something.
Total scam.
I doubt thats it. Maybe, but zIve heard they rewrite reviws so the owner is shady.
Interesting. I wonder why hotels over there don't just include it as part of the overall rate paid.
That property is owned by Ben Mallah. Net worth $500 Million, YouTube subscribers 750,000.
His YouTube channel shows his personality as a cross between a dumpster fire and Jerry Springer.
Civilized countries jail people for using Facebook for inciting people to burn down hotels housing refugees.
Uncivilized countries allow a president to carry out an insurrection and suffer no consequences.
Because the city tax does not apply to all guests, business travellers are exempt.
Nit really. There was alot more to the story but there is way too many liberal media that favors the liberal side.
Reading these comments it is obvious that anyone complaining has absolutely no clue of the costs to run a business like a hotel or lodge, let alone cover electricity costs. Granted it is different for a big chain than a small business, for example a small 5 unit lodge in the UP that is 100% electric the winter electric bills are $4,000 to $5,000 a month, the owners can only absorb so much. It is no different than UPS or FedEx adding a fuel surcharge. As far as credit card fees, 3% adds up.
The whole point is 'Lodge Owner' is to advertise your price for your accommodations and then provide a receipt at the end of the stay for that price. The petty fees that are added at check out is what irritates the customers.
Do you get it now? (Here is what we charge. Here is what you will pay.) Pretty simple.
But you go ahead and keep nickel and diming and we'll just go elsewhere.