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Park Hyatt Hamburg Will Become Conrad Hotel

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In June 2022, we learned how the only Park Hyatt in Germany would soon be rebranding. We now know what the future holds for this property. While this is admittedly pretty niche, it’s something that interests me as a World of Hyatt Globalist, and as someone with a strong connection to Germany.

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 bill
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This hotel was a nightmare with Globalist benefits before the pandemic, so my suspicion is that they were sick of honoring Hyatt's policies.


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(@eponymous coward)
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The Reichshof in Hamburg used to be a Curio Hilton property, as I recall- stated there in cash and points when that was a good deal.

They also deflagged, which seems to be a trend…


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(@Nate nate)
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The Reichshof kinda sucked, so this was a win for Hilton. Only thing I liked about the hotel was that instead of slippers they gave flip-flops.


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Gold
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I visisted this property last year. The staff were friendly and offered complimentary upgrade. However the interior of the building looked tired and uninspiring. The suite was spacious but also plain and presented little sense of luxury.


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Diamond
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That's unfortunate. I hadn't visited, though I had frequently thought about it with rock-bottom pricing. If Hyatt reopens another PH in Germany, I'd expect it to have 2-4x pricing this property had.


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(@N1120A)
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Hyatts are overrated by people who have learned to game their loyalty program. Hopefully this hotel becomes a Kempinski or something else.


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Diamond
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Indeed, they even had their own room category for points redemptions, which was the only one with Queen beds. They were definitely not fans of providing program benefits.


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(@Jennifer)
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I have stayed here several times and always enjoyed the staff and the property. I invited German friends for two nights as Guests of Honer, and they were very fond of it, too. Sorry to see it go.


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(@Stuart)
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Very unfortunate. I have used this hotel for business stays at least twice a year in the past. No doubt it was getting a bit tired and the rooms feel very 90's, but the location was fantastic and the service was always good. I agree with another here though that getting any sort of Globalist upgrades was pretty rare.

I tend towards the idea that Hyatt was demanding some updates to the rooms to meet PH standards. Although the lack of any real branding of Park Hyatt as a luxury property to German's, who naturally make up a large percentage of the guests here, may have made the decision to leave Hyatt an easy one. Most Germans have no clue as to the more luxury branding of PH. To my friends there it's, "just a Hyatt."


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(@Michael M)
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The Hyatt Regency Chantilly in France is also leaving Hyatt effective 1 October 2022.


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(@Lars K)
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There is a Hyatt Centric planned for Hamburg for 2025 according to an article in Die Welt. It will also be on Mönckebergstrasse in the C&A building.


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Diamond
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I should mention: the dated 90s reference in the comments randomly made me think of something else. I suspect this is how PH Tokyo is going to end. Suddenly the brand may request renovations that will cost $200M+, and the owners will question the ROI of that investment.

My guess is 2024. At that point, the property will be 30 years old without a major reno. That's special in a bad way.


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(@C. Derkins)
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I liked the Reichshof before, when it was Part of Hilton and was always happy there as Hilton Diamond. Now I tried the Park Hyatt and I absolutely loved it. I have no status with Hyatt, but booking it over Amex FHR (I value guaranteed late check-out much higher than possible upgrades) was so worth it, they even upgraded me to a suite. I loved the interior and the atmosphere - I prefer patina with style over bling any time. It saddens me to see yet another great hotel in Hamburg go wireless… err chainless.


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(@Michael)
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As a hamburg citizen here is told that the owner family wanted to have something fresh in the levante house where the ph is located. hyatt and the owners came to no agreement. in my opinion it is all about money. the location in the heart of hamburg is A+ and there are brands willing to pay more. so the contract from around 1998 came official to an end.
The ph is really not in best shape but i have seen a lot worse than that. The employes were top noth before corona. the ph has definitely no great vies at all but i allways felt more than welcome even I live here.


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(@Batman)
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I am sure it has to do with higher lease. There was a cafe in the complex before that did not get a new lease, apparently because they wanted to try something new. In the end, it was again a cafe by Roncalli. I am sure they pay much more.

Yes, the Hyatt Centric is planned for 2025 https://www.tophotel.de/erstes-haus-der-lifestyle-marke-im-deutschsprachigen-raumhyatt-kuendigt-hyatt-centric-altstadt-hamburg-an-103161/ .

The updating of the subway and CBD is nearly finished and then they will most likely start on the C&A building.


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 Eric
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I really hope they’re able to keep most of the team on—I stayed here on my first trip post-CVOID and I’ve never felt more comfortable. Apples Bar in particular has always felt like a special hideaway. It’s not a flashy Park Hyatt property (my last trip pre-pandemic was to the very modern Park Hyatt Niseko), but it’s the thoughtful, discreet service that’s always set this location apart.


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 Eric
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I totally agree. It’s such an exceptional property (set apart my service and the original concept) but it’s not on par with the new builds. Here’s hoping that they can do a thoughtful renovation!


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 Ari
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This was the original Park Hyatt back in 1998, no?


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(@marib)
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We will be in Hamburg at the end of a cruise next June and I was saddened to see that this hotel is closing. As for the Linder Hotels, the Linder Hotel Am Michel wasn't bookable online at Hyatt, so I called Hyatt about it and was told that points earning/redeeming was not available for this property.


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(@Deltahater)
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Technically, PH Hamburg is leaving Hyatt on 19DEC 2022. We will be there for the farewell party Dec 15-17


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 Sam
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Why is it that Germany has so few luxury hotels?


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(@Raffles)
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Good spot. I was there last weekend and there were no clues as to what would happen.


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 John
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I don’t think they want to change it too much on account of the movie.

Also while it’s dated it didn’t seem in any worn worn. I’m sure we’ve all been to a Hyatt Regency or a Marriott that’s on its last legs. With all the dings and dents and scrapes and things broken. But the PH Tokyo just looks like it always has perfectly maintained.


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(@Steve B.)
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Stayed there last November and had a wonderful time. There are two other "grand dames" in Hamburg, IMO, The Fier Jahreseitzen and the Hotel Atlantic. The Atlantic was featured in the James Bond film "Tomorrow Never Dies". Probably will stay at the Atlantic on my next trip this summer.


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(@ArnoldB)
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You got the names so wrong it hurts


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Diamond
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Typo . . .
It's LINDNER Hotels not LINDER! 😉


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 Dan
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Stayed here three different times in the mid-1990s, had a great experience each time. Centrally located in Hamburg. Was able to be in one of the apartments due to staying for three weeks which was fantastic!


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(@Robert Kopp)
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It was a sad change as the was a great property in the center of town.


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