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Surprising: American Cuts Miami To Tel Aviv Route

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American Airlines will be discontinuing flights between Miami and Tel Aviv, less than two years after launching this service…

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 abey
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AA simply dont play, jump in and get out before giving it a chance


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 Dan
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The cancellation was already twitted 3 days ago and not by Jon.
https://twitter.com/ressleroren/status/1610018120080424960?s=46&t=n4bJGtYnVLGlhD-f6kvBQw


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(@D3kingg)
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That equipment will be needed for an Asian route. China , HK , or Tokyo


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 dn10
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Likely using that plane for another Asia route.


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(@sharon)
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Bizzare. Why would American upgrade to daily service and then cancel??

Using Asian flights as an excuse is poor- did they forget that Asia would reopen again sometime?

United, Delta, and El Al will happily pick up the slack. In Fact, Delta now serves Tel Aviv from Atlanta, easily accessible from all major Florida markets.


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(@dmnyc)
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Ben, not totally sure what you mean by "many" years, but before re-launching TLV service in 2021, AA last served TLV from Philadelphia in 2016 (taking over the route after the merger with US).


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Diamond
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Surprising. I guess with airlines having such limited fleet utility due to the Covid retirements, routes that require long ground-time really have to pull their share of weight, in order to stick around.

The likes of GIG and TLV don't seem to cut it anymore. 🙁


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 John
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I am so disappointed with AA's international network. For the size of the airline, I am so surprised with their lack of ability to build a real network and make it work. Flying to LHR, MAD and CDG is not an international network.


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(@D3kingg)
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@John

What about British Airways in LHR and Iberia in MAD ? One world alliance .


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Diamond
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What else is there to say? They tried it, it's not working, they are leaving. Clearly FL jews said no thanks to AA metal from MIA, or AA could finally pull out.

Many other options.


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(@Frank)
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There were at least 9 seats for sale in J on every flight and AA wanted 300k miles for a one way ha ha ha. Their network planners are horrible.


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 RF
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AA's international network sucks.


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Very disappointed in AA's routes right now too. I go to Germany/Switzerland numerous times a year from DFW. I always have to connect in PHL or CLT. Bring back DFW-Munich and other international flights to DFW. I very much dislike flying to & from Philadelphia and Charlotte airports.


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(@yehuda kovesh)
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I have a CDG-MIA flight coming up in a month and when I called to postpone the flight by few weeks, I was told that they will not be flying MIA-CDG outside of winter months??? I dont particularly like flying AA but would like to keep the Status for benefits when traveling abroad on other OW partners


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Diamond
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Maybe it comes down to FF programs - with Continental then United having the most flights to TLV. CO/UA is big in NYC - EWR and in ORD. Maybe people are already hooked on UA and *Alliance. A new entrant may not get people to move over.


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 Tom
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Horrible aircraft utilization, crap yields (no, TLV is not a high yield market, Ben) so makes perfect sense AA could find a better use for the two frames this route requires.


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 AD
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I just saw tonight that my scheduler has me booked outbound through JFK on AA and back from TLV through MIA at the end of January. I did notice that the TLV-MIA business class cabin is very small and already very full for a return a month out.


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(@Garnett Leary)
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That is a poor choice by ending the Mia tlv flight like please consider keeping the Mia tlv flight people are getting very upset that you are ending the tlv Mia service


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Diamond
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TLV is yet another city where AA has struggled to compete against DL and UA.
DL's new (returning) ATL-TLV service provides far better connections to the SE.

And the amount of aircraft time that AA is using on its MIA-TLV flight probably is a factor in helping kill the route.


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 Alex
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Surprising but not bizarre, if the route was performing poorly that is the end result.
Speaking of cutting routes It’s a real shame the AA decided not to bring back the MIA-MXP
so sad, great city that made so easy to connect throughout Europe.


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(@Steve)
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Not surprising given the developing political situation between Israel and the U.S. these days.


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Diamond
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MIA probably doesn't have good feed opportunities for TLV compared to UA's and DL's hubs. So it will mostly rely on P2P traffic, which apparently isn't great. So no big mystery here.


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(@AaronP)
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Bummer, I flew it last April for Passover. Maybe the extra security involved at MIA factored into the decision???


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 Bob
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Miami is a major American Airlines hub. They have. Plenty of feed. American earlier canceled service from DFW. DFW is the second largest hub in the world, the largest for AA.
Makes no sense.


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(@Caleb)
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Sure, they have partners. But that's not the point. I live in Chicago and AA has just one daily, year-round destination in Europe - London. Paris isn't daily in the winter and every other destination is seasonal. In winter, AA or partners fly daily to LHR or MAD. That's it. That's a pretty pathetic network.


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 Andy
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If a return trip takes 34 hours, this basically means that the airline has to deploy 1.5 aircraft to this route (under the condition they have another similar route) or two aircraft (if there is no other similar route). Fares to TLV are generally not much higher than Europe, which can easily be done in about 20 hours return.


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(@D3kingg)
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@Michael_FFM @BOB

That’s a broad topic. Each AA hub has a different regional focus. For Example, MIA is heavily focused on Central and South America routes while PHL serves Europe.

Regardless of Airline I think Israel should have routes to the US where the Jews are ; JFK and LAX at the very least.


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@Steve

The current situation is basically that if anything were to happen to Israel they could not count on the US to come to their defense militarily . John Kerry gave Iran the coordinates of Israel’s nuclear locations in exchange for a bag of cash. Not to worry Israel can defend herself. Hopefully with Netanyahu back in power he can stabilize the international community as there is currently no world leader.


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(@Interested Traveler)
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I heard some speculation that a lot had to do with far lower group purchases from Birthright Israel which has had far lower funding since Sheldon Adelson passed away.

A friend flew the route four times and said that Business was never full, so that may have something to do with it to, if they can't sell out business class reliably the plane is probably better used elsewhere.


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(@Andrew)
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American has never been a fan of TLV routes. They never had their own, they cancelled the TWA service from NY, the US Airways service from PHL, never launched DFW and are now cancelling MIA. There’s more to this then meets the eye. United and Delta do well with this route, especially United.


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 Jeb
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Perhaps they are eliminating this route due to those originating on TLV much prefer the service El Al provides compared to AA & Israeli citizens are very loyal to El Al & automatically select them over AA even if they are markedly more expensive in all classes.


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(@Anon 1982)
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odd. it must have been a financial thing..... as Miami is 30% jewish, 70% latino.


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 OA
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They kept codeshare connections with ElAl the whole time. You could fly LY from TLV and continue on AA or JB to anywhere. AA loves hubs and connections (like lhr/mad with BA/IB), only except CDG which is probably for historical reasons.
So they probably want to just continue offering far away destinations as a stopover. Let's see what they do with India.


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(@Amit Cohen)
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Do you think the flight from Dallas will be launched soon?


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(@Uriel)
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looks like it is time for me to use all of my miles with AA....


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(@Bob K)
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Doubt it. AA offered the nonstop DFW-TLV and I booked it. Of course the flight never started, so my flight and my seats were changed to go through JFK. Thanks to COVID, I had miss my return flight. There was no way to rebook online using my "flight credits" and after hours on the phone on hold, I just gave up used my points to get home. I am turned off of AA now, they dominate DFW but I will always look for another airline first. Cancelled my CC with Admirals club access.


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