Etihad to launch se...
 

Etihad to launch service between Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi as of June 1, 2014

39 Posts
7 Users
0 Reactions
234 Views
Posts: 39740
Admin
Topic starter
(@lucky)
Member
Joined: 13 years ago
[#1722]

Etihad Airways announced today that they’ll be launching daily service between Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi as of June 1, 2014. The flight will be operated by a 777-300ER with the following schedule:

Continue reading: Etihad to launch service between Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi as of June 1, 2014

Share your questions, experiences, and thoughts below.


38 Replies
38 Replies
 John
(@John)
Joined: 16 years ago

Posts: 206

Etihad bus. class availability using AA miles from certain U.S. cities like Chicago to Abu Dhabi has been very low. I hope that Qatar has flights from LAX and DFW soon to Doha. Qatar avail from the U.S. to the Middle East has been much better than Etihad.


Reply
 Amol
(@amol)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

Your move, Qatar.


Reply
(@caveman)
Joined: 15 years ago

Posts: 65

In order to redeem American miles the airline operating the overwater segment has to publish a fare between the origin and destination.

How do you search for that besides calling?


Reply
(@Geoff)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 11

Are we sure this will be on a 773 not the 772LR they are getting from Air India? If it's the 772 do we now how they plan to outfit them?


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ caveman -- On ExpertFlyer you can click on "fare information," type in the city pair, and see if a routing comes up or not.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Geoff -- It's a good question since I originally thought they might be the 777-200LRs, though the GDS shows the flight as a "77W." Curious also how they configure the 77Ls -- my guess would be they'll be two cabin.


Reply
(@pedro)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 23

sorry the dum question, transpacific or transatlantic?


Reply
(@Peter)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 252

Not the most soothing color scheme!


Reply
Diamond
(@lantean)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

what other miles are good to sue on Etihad besides AA?


Reply
Diamond
(@lantean)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

USE!
ha
😉


Reply
(@Levy Flight)
Joined: 15 years ago

Posts: 186

Well, this is potentially a game (network) changing route for me. Question though relates to what AA is doing with its mileage availability. If AA award availability is being decreased then I don't see a point in buying a revenue ticket on one of their partners, unless I start collecting points in Etihad's program.


Reply
(@Kelly)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 22

Lucky, I heard a rumor from a very reliable AA purser that AA will announce DFW - PVR in November. Any insight? Also, you are so right on AA awards availability to Europe - even for us Key holders.... And I sit here w +3 million miles to burn!!


Reply
 Joey
Diamond
(@joey-4)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 1215

Awesome! But wait... when is the SQ flight from LAX-SIN ending? That flight is longer than this Etihad flight right?


Reply
(@TrAAveller)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 27

@Kelly, did you mean PVG (Shanghai)? AA already flies DFW-PVR (Puerto Vallarta) 3x/daily.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ pedro -- The Los Angeles to Abu Dhabi route? It'll be polar, flying almost due North.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Lantean -- Not many readily available ones or ones we'd usually collect in the US, unfortunately.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Levy Flight -- Well ultimately American hopefully won't limit space on their partners, and they don't have any impact over how much space their partners give them. That being said, even for redemptions on Etihad you're much better off collecting American miles than Etihad miles given how much less they charge for the same award.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Joey -- It is longer, but Singapore is ending it in November and this service won't start till next June.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Kelly -- To be honest, even if the purser was "reliable," non-corporate employees are generally the last to know about this stuff. It actually wouldn't surprise me, though I think there are other routes out of Dallas that we're more likely to see than Shanghai.


Reply
 Gene
Diamond
(@gene-2)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

I cannot imagine them not having F class on these flights. Very excited!


Reply
 Jeff
(@Jeff)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 99

Lucky, re @ pedro's question above, even though it will be a polar route, AA will have to classify the route as TATL or TPAC because for AAdvantage award redemption purposes, some regions can only be reached via TATL routings and others can only be reached via TPAC routings. So it must be one or the other. (I expect they'll deem this a TATL route.)


Reply
(@TrAAveller)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 27

Etihad will be flying this route with their Diamond First Class suites. Etihad.com is selling first class seats at the moment.

Per an email today from Etihad about their new LAX service:
With a private suite and an on-board chef in Diamond First Class and guaranteed fully-flat beds with direct aisle access in Pearl Business Class, you can enjoy the ultimate comfort and unrivalled luxury. Guests in Coral Economy Class can enjoy over 650 hours of on-demand entertainment with noise reduction headphones, more meal choices with vegetarian option as standard, and a selection of hot beverages.


Reply
Diamond
(@lantean)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

@Lucky

"And on another totally random route" - shouldn't that be "note"?


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Jeff -- Hmmm, how so? Ultimately American doesn't let you route via a third region with a few exceptions, so what would be the significance of which way they categorize it beyond that? Agree it would be transatlantic if it had to be one or the other though.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Lantean -- Whoops, you're of course right, thanks.


Reply
 HR
(@HR)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 17

I have been wanting to fly Etihad for ages but connecting through Chicago gives me the creeps. Now that they will fly out of LAX, it gives me great options to South Africa and India and hopefully they will be competitive with Emirates.


Reply
Diamond
(@lantean)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

@Lucky

no problem!
are you taking EWR-SIN before it's discontinued?


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Lantean -- Yep, still hoping to, my dates just don't have availability as of now. Hoping that changes.


Reply
 Jeff
(@Jeff)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 99

Lucky, I suppose you are right - that the many "transatlantic only" and "transpacific only" annotations on the AA award chart are essentially simplifications of the region restrictions.


Reply
 ali
(@ali)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 2

I am having trouble searching etihad.com for award availability. I logged in and to my "etihad guest" account and searched for availability, and then I get errors from the website saying that they can't display award flights. Can you do a post explaining award availability search on etihad? I am most interested in LAX to Abu Dahbi (stop)..onwards to LHE (destination) and then a normal return...I can book that with 80k aa miles, right?


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ ali -- Etihad award space actually isn't showing up on etihad.com yet, but when you call American they can see the space. See this post:
https://onemileatatime.com/etihad-now-loaded-award-space-new-los-angeles-route-two-first-business-class-award-seats-flights/


Reply
(@c-diddy)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

Lucky, any advice on the best way to take advantage of this, and the new CX route, if starting in Denver and headed to the Maldives? I was think DEN-LAX-AUH-MLE in Etihad first class, then returning MLE-HKG-ORD-DEN in CX biz (with connectors to DEN on AA, of course).

Do you think that makes sense? Is it a legal routing? Cheapest way to use AA miles for it (i.e., distance-based or otherwise)?

Thanks!


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ C Diddy -- A couple of things to keep in mind:
1) In order for a routing to be valid, the airline operating the overwater segment must publish a fare between your origin and destination. As of now Etihad doesn't publish a fare between Denver and the Maldives. For that matter they don't even publish a fare between Los Angeles and the Maldives... yet. So that would require two awards until they start filing some more fares.

As far as the return goes, American doesn't let you route from the US to Middle East/India via Asia, so you'd need to book that as two awards. One between the Middle East/India and Asia zone 2, and one between Asia zone 2 and the US (which doesn't actually end up being much more expensive).


Reply
 E
(@E)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 75

Has Etihad published the fare yet from lax to mle?


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ E -- Yes they have.


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ E -- Looks like it!


Reply
(@Boris)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 1

Longest outbound flight out of LAx is singapore not Abu dhabi !


Reply
Admin
(@lucky)
Joined: 13 years ago

Member
Posts: 39740

@ Boris -- Singapore no longer operates a nonstop flight from Los Angeles (the only remaining flight connects in Tokyo).


Reply