Cathay Pacific’s U.S. Based Flight Attendants Want To Unionize

Cathay Pacific has foreign flight attendant bases, including some in the U.S. Actually, they’re the only Asian airline I know of to have U.S. based flight attendants.

I’ve flown with Los Angeles, New York, and San Francisco based Cathay Pacific crews. In some cases flights are entirely staffed by U.S. based crews, while in other cases they mix the staffing on a flight, and have crews that are part U.S. based and part Hong Kong based.

In my experience, in general U.S. based crews are more informal and fun, while Hong Kong based crews tend to be a bit more proper and poised. However, sometimes it’s tough to tell the difference between flight attendants based on where they’re based, since it’s not like the U.S. based flight attendants are exclusively American, and it’s not like the Hong Kong based flight attendants are exclusively from there.

For example, Cathay Pacific has a lot of Filipino flight attendants, and in many cases the Hong Kong based flight attendants actually live in the Philippines and commute, while the US based ones in many cases were born and raised in the Philippines and have lived in the US for some amount of time.

Anyway, I apologize for the tangent, because I’m always fascinated by the nationalities of airline crews. Now let’s get to the real point of this post — Cathay Pacific has stopped contributing to social security and medicare for U.S. based flight attendants, and they’re now seeking to unionize.

U.S. Cathay Pacific crews are losing benefits

The South China Morning Post reports that Cathay Pacific has stopped contributions to social security and medicare for their 400+ U.S. based cabin crew… apparently because they’re not allowed to. Here’s the explanation:

The airline says that for several years it had mistakenly contributed to a benefits scheme provided by the US government. Now Cathay has told the employees that it is exempt from such payments as it is a non-American employer with staff working on non-American registered aircraft.

“We understand that we have no alternative but to comply with the US tax law and regulation,” the airline told staff in a letter.

The change in policy means Cathay will save US$1 million a year in employee related contributions, according to a leaked email. However, it denied the move was motivated “due to any cost concern”.

Crew who made social security contributions over recent years, typically 6 or 7 per cent deducted from their salaries, could get a refund but they would not then be eligible for the benefits.

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Cathay Pacific’s U.S. based flight attendants want to unionize

I’m not sure if this is directly related to the above situation, or if the above is just the straw that broke the camel’s back, but Cathay Pacific’s U.S. based flight attendants are asking for an election so that they can be represented by a union.

Per the Association of Flight Attendants, which is looking to represent Cathay Pacific cabin crew:

“We are excited for Cathay U.S.-based Cabin Crew to join with us to raise the standards for all Flight Attendants. Their Cathay Cabin Crew counterparts in Hong Kong, the United Kingdom and Canada all have contracts with higher pay, benefits and job security. It’s past time for these hard-working American-based Flight Attendants to have a contract too. Together we will work to deny multi-national corporations from undervaluing our work. This election is about equality and fairness. It matters to Flight Attendants in the U.S. and Cabin Crew serving as aviation’s first responders around the world that these Flight Attendants have a strong voice at work,” said Sara Nelson, AFA International President.

Cathay Pacific’s Hong Kong based flight attendants are already unionized, and apparently their U.S. based cabin crew have among the lowest pay of any base. Supposedly their counterparts in the U.K. are paid 10% more, and their counterparts in Canada are paid 23% more. Of course we don’t know if that’s actual pay, total benefits packages, or what. It does seem odd that the Canadian crews make more than the U.K. crews, though.

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Bottom line

It’ll be interesting to see what this unionization effort by Cathay Pacific’s U.S. based crews means for their future. I can see both sides here. On one hand, the reason Cathay Pacific has foreign bases is because the cost is lower, and it can save the airline money. At the same time, it seems like the U.S. crews have been paid disproportionately little, perhaps due to their lack of representation.

At the same time, if the costs go up significantly, Cathay Pacific might not find it worthwhile to keep a U.S. base, or at least not to grow it any further.

This mistake with Cathay Pacific’s social security contributions is a real problem, and something the airline needs to take responsibility for and make right, in my opinion. Cathay’s U.S. crews have good reason to be irked.

(Tip of the hat to View from the Wing)

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Tony Lee Guest

One of the comments was wrong. Cathay crew pay in U.S. is $40,00 but it is only $22,000 for Hong Kong crew.

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Eddie Lun Guest

I work for CX and wish to clarify - Most Filipina crew are leftovers from the 90's era and are senior (soon to retire). Local crews are mostly HK locals and Mainland Chinese and this is current policy. CX is localizing to cut costs and based on pax preference. - HK Crews get paid much less than US counterparts and with less benefits compared to US crew.

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FlyPointyEnd Guest

Hey Lucky, Just want to point out that most Filipino HK-Based crew actually live in HK, some actually have family in HK already and just come home to Manila for vacation. They are normally the senior ones, from ISM and SP and a few FP. Although I've met some who still have family in the Philippines, most that I have talked to through the years are actually HK Based. I've also met a few US-Based crew who migrated to the US after joining CX and changed base from HK to US. By the way there are also some Filipino BC that are HK based, but they were born and raised in HK, and are very fluent in Cantonese, English and Filipino/Tagalog.

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MS New Member

Not required to and have to are different. CX isn't required to pay social security and medicare, but that doesn't mean they can't do so if they so choose. However, the reality is unless a FA works her/his whole career at CX, not paying into SS/M is a benefit. One needs only 40 quarters to qualify for SS/M payments. The return on the extra quarters and dollars paid into SS/M beyond the minimums sharply declines. So the FA is better off not paying SS/M for the time spent at CX, keeping the money (or better yet investing) and earning their 40 quarters elsewhere. If CX wasn't becoming so cheap (its standards are seriously declining) it wouldn't "save" the employer contribution but opt to pay that to the FAs.

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Oscar Gonzalez Guest

Just close the base and hire more in HK.

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