British Airways Will Add Flights To Oakland In March 2017

Wow, British Airways is on a roll. A couple of weeks ago British Airways announced that they’ll be adding flights between London Heathrow and New Orleans as of March 2017. Then last week British Airways announced that they’ll be adding flights between London Gatwick and Fort Lauderdale as of July 2017.

Well, now British Airways is announcing yet another new US route, which will represent service to their 25th US city.

British Airways will fly to Oakland

British Airways will be launching 4x weekly flights between London Gatwick and Oakland as of March 28, 2017.

On Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, the flight will operate with the following schedule:

London Gatwick to Oakland departing 10:20AM arriving 1:15PM
Oakland to London Gatwick departing 2:45PM arriving 9:25AM (+1 day)

On Tuesdays the flight will operate with the following schedule:

BA2279 London Gatwick to Oakland departing 11:25AM arriving 2:20PM
BA2278 Oakland to London Gatwick departing 3:50PM arriving 10:30AM (+1 day)

The flight will be operated by a Boeing 777-200 aircraft, featuring 40 business class seats, 24 premium economy seats, and 219 economy seats.


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British Airways’ California coverage is getting quite impressive. The airline flies to Los Angeles (twice daily), San Diego, San Francisco (twice daily), and San Jose, and will now add a further flight to Oakland.

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If you’re interested in booking this flight, keep in mind that British Airways has a policy where they make two business class award seats available as soon as a route becomes bookable, so you should have no trouble snagging award seats on this flight. The flight is already bookable, and we’re seeing two business class and four economy class award seats per flight.

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The catch, however, is that British Airways’ business class product isn’t great, and there are also hefty carrier imposed surcharges of $800+ roundtrip on award tickets, so it won’t be cheap.

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British Airways 777-200

Alaska Airlines has a bit of a focus city in Oakland, and they partner with British Airways. So it’s certainly possible that they’ll hope to pick up some connecting passengers for their flights to Hawaii. However, that’s not really a unique opportunity, given that there are already lots of other airports where British Airways customers can connect to get one stop service to Hawaii.

What I don’t get about this route

British Airways’ last US route announcement was between London Gatwick and Fort Lauderdale… a route served by Norwegian. Now they’re launching London Gatwick to Oakland… also a route served by Norwegian.

Does British Airways really think they can compete with Norwegian on price, and for that matter do they even really want to try? I’m not sure I see the upside for British Airways here. British Airways’ cost structure is significantly higher than Norwegian’s, and generally the people who fly Norwegian aren’t people who would otherwise be loyal to British Airways. Norwegian’s 787s have 69 more seats than British Airways’ 777s, the plane is cheaper to operate, and their cost structure is much lower otherwise as well.

So do they want to protect market share while taking a loss, or what are they hoping for here? A lot of British Airways leisure destinations out of Gatwick do quite well for the airline, given that they’re fairly high yield leisure destinations and not served by other airlines. But trying to compete directly with Norwegian on US routes just seems sort of silly.

Bottom line

Despite British Airways blaming Brexit for some service cutbacks, they sure are growing their US route network. Three new US route announcements in just two weeks is a lot. While I get New Orleans, as it’s actually a unique destination, I don’t really understand British Airways replicating Norwegian’s US routes, as there doesn’t seem to be much upside for them.

What do you make of British Airways launching flights to Oakland?

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Andrzej Bania Guest

Premium Economy on these very old 777 planes was embarsssing. The cloth seats have seen better days. The in-flight entertainment system is extremely jaded - with flickering screens, controls in the seat that react whenever you move and the film list was poor. There were about 20 ‘new’ films (if you count Wonder Woman’ as new), but the ‘Film Library’ had only 9 choices. It’s OK that BA run this route - but the planes need a refurb. We had repairs completed with duct tape and the filth ‘behind the scenes’ was positively nasty (I have photos).

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Richard Guest

We flew the BA flight nonstop from LGW to OAK in May 2017. Using American miles, we upgraded to business class. The lay flat seats were great for a 10-hour flight. Cabin was empty. Service was excellent, but food was medium quality. Entertainment choices were slim. Much less than on American. The weird configuration of the business class cabin is fine for a couple, but would be a bit odd to be seated facing a stranger for 10 hours. We live 15 minutes from OAK, so it was a breeze getting home. For us, SFO is an hour away on BART and anywhere from 40 to 90 minutes by car, depending on traffic.

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Keith Guest

One has to keep in mind that BA is refurbishing their entire Gatwick fleet of 25 777-200's, as they densify their fleet. They expect the to finish all by 2018. BA's Gatwick based Triple 7's seat count will go from 280 to a whopping 332. Remember this a 200-series, not even a 300-series. Yikes! Now I feel like I am flying United's New 777-333ER to China -- in Economy. Cruel, cruel, cruel Mr. Munoz! The greatest increase will be in Premium Economy (old 24 to a doubling of 48.) As noted by OP -- where all the is. I don't think the refresh includes the newest iteration of PE - but everyone in economy and PE will have larger screens (thanks BA for keeping everyone else up on the way over....) Business class will reduce from 40 to 32 (for our Uber folks) while economy at 10 abreast seating will increase economy to 216 to 252. Of course this is all to gain a competitive seat/mile cost advantage close to Norwegian. These are older planes with less lease and operational cost (except maintenance)- So it just might work or not. (Remember CALlite or Song ((I really did love Song)) anyone?) Just kidding - this is just a sub-fleet. Going daily will get them the lift to make to play around with their revenue management and ancillary fees. Also, me thinks, it will be hard for Norweign to compete with daily flights to Gatwick. Even if it's just O &D or you happen to be going to the beach in Spain, Italy or France. In fact, you could do a Avios Tiers run by using BA from OAK to a code-shared Cathay Pacific flight to Hong Kong if you can stand BA's to fly in PE for 22 hours. (Side note: I still want to check out all the noise about Cathay Pacific's PE (Idea noted!) Plus ++ as noted look at all the feed from other airlines into OAK, who are between Seattle (hello Bakersfield!) and San Francisco. My one and only and last experience with Norwegian (hey I love to fly and check out new things and just for the record it was in their plus seats...just saying) was a 6-hour connection on the way over with an overnight on the way back due to the operational nightmare caused by the high utilization of its 787's. (Just for the record it was in their PLUS seats.) In addition to the complete chaos it throws into the schedule when their lovely new 787's have a computer glitch that causes a delay +++. ( It happens a lot)- no really A LOT- "All things 787: Dispatch Issues: (http://nyc787.blogspot.com/search?q=dispatch+rate) HT: http://nyc787.blogspot.com I really don't think east bay flyers are going to take this flight over the Atlantic, then take a hike the Gatwick Express or Bus to catch a connection at Heathrow do you?.... Wait, I take that back. I know some fellow flyers that catch Ryan to really keep their airfare low. They will see much more of the world than I, but so much more of it will be kinda uncomfortable. (Disclaimer: Views of this commenter do not reflect the positions or opinions of One Mile At A Time Blog :-) ) Wait, I think I TOTALLY represent the lay-flat position's and opinions of this blog.... I digress. All this to say to my fellow East Bay BA Flyer - catch the ride before 2018 and it will be an acceptable flight before it turns into "a fo' real "Norwegian Experience" PS- My hope-- low $2000's BA Club Prices. Even though I know it's not the best out there by a long shot, I always <3 the tea and scones..... Thanks for reading this far.

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Michael Z Guest

My wife and I are flying the OAK to LGW route June 1st on British along with our 8-month old daughter. Originally I had planned to go on Norwegian, but believe it or not, when you add up the costs of baggage, seat reservations, etc. the price came out cheaper on British Airways. I do prefer the 787 Norwegian plane, but the kicker was that BA is MUCH friendlier to families -- they waive the seat reservation fee and automatically give you first choice of bulkhead seats where there are baby basinets. Norwegian, meanwhile, would not let me choose a bulkhead and requires a parent with infant to be in a window seat (!?) Seems very strange and a bad idea both for the parent and surrounding passengers. So at least for families British is competitive :) Anyway, looking forward to getting reports of the first BA flights soon. So yes, please give a trip report!

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Andrew Sheppard Guest

We are using the LGW to OAK service in Club in April. To be honest it was only because of a departure change last year on a Jet Blue service from SFO that moved to OAK due to fog that we realised how convenient OAK was via the train. Also, we have been looking to use our Avios and Amex 241 voucher to the West Coast but SFO / LAX / SJC / SAN all never seem to have any premium availability. However, OAK is wide open - there were 8 seats available when I booked. The last few flights with BA have - with one exception - been pretty mediocre, and as I said, we are using Avios, otherwise would be looking at routing via LAX on the AA 777-300 as that is a much more pleasant experience than BA. But for now, we have got not too bad a deal especially with the 241 voucher. Would anyone be interested in a trip report?

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