ATC Audio: American Eagle Jet Loses Control

I first read about this story a couple of days ago, though it wasn’t until I listened to the ATC audio that I truly realized how severe this situation was.

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, a Republic Airways Embraer 175 operating a flight on behalf of American Eagle had a serious situation. The flight was operating from Atlanta to New York LaGuardia as AA4439 with a total of six people.

That’s the first shocking detail here — given that there were two pilots and two flight attendants, that means there were just two passengers. WOW.

Anyway, the plane took off from Atlanta’s runway 9L, and the crew declared an emergency about four minutes after takeoff, noting that they had a trim runaway (essentially they weren’t able to control the climb of the plane).

The pilot noted that they were in a stall situation, and that they couldn’t keep the pitch down (meaning that they couldn’t angle the nose down). The pilot also mentions that they had been “fighting the aircraft.”

I got goosebumps when I heard the audio of the pilot saying “we’re in a stalling situation… agh!”

The plane kept climbing even though the pilots tried to stop it. The plane eventually made it up to nearly 15,000 feet, before the pilots managed to regain control and have the plane return to Atlanta. Apparently they managed to disable some of the controls, and make it so that the first officer’s controls were working.

The plane landed back in Atlanta just under 20 minutes after it took off, with no injuries or damage.

You can listen to the full ATC audio here:

These pilots deserve huge credit for their fast thinking and handling of this situation. What absolute professionals, along with the air traffic controller as well.

Given the trim runaway and stall “situation,” I can’t help but wonder if the results might have been different if there weren’t just two passengers onboard? The plane could have had 74 more passengers, so with bags and everything that could have potentially been an extra 15,000+ pounds. The higher the weight the higher the stall speed. I’d be curious if any jet pilots could chime in on whether that could have impacted the performance in a situation like this?

Regardless, I’m so relieved this ended the way it did, and huge credit goes to the pilots for their handling of this.

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Adam Guest

I’ve recently flown this exact airplane that had this issue and it was in fact a short circuited wire that caused this. Nonetheless all the speculation is appreciated from Matt Moran. What an ignorant comment.

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Eric Guest

Listening to the ATC, the pilots reported they shifted controls to the FO position and then everything worked so apparently there was a problem with the Captain's controls, perhaps a bad switch or short circuit. Good flying all around.

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Ryan Guest

Just commenting. Not meaning to judge. I agree we don’t know anything yet. Alex you may be 100% correct. Whatever happens, I just believe Immediate Action Items need to be just that....immediate. Unless it really took both of them to control the airplane then of course that comes first. My apologies. No one should be flying anyone else’s airplane. It’s good conversation and made me practice going through all my IAIs again.

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Notgonnahappen Guest

Commenting on the actions of any pilots in an emergency situation by other pilots is considered unprofessional. Real airline pilots would know this. Except for those douche bags on CNN.

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Alex Guest

I am also an E170/175 pilot and Ryan and more importantly Matt i think have it wrong. I dont think it was a pitch trim runaway as I know people at Republic and pressing the autopilot/trim disconnect switch is the memory item for that issue. It was more likely a jammed control colum that they thought was a pitch trim runaway as at the end of the audio they say they have "switched the controls to the FO's side". I would assume that means they pulled the Elevator Disconnect Handle. Or it may have been a combination of the two. Granted this is speculation as only those two pilots know what really was happening and what checklists were or weren't done. As any airline pilot knows QRH and QRC procedures are good but they take time to run and when your airplane is pitching up uncontrollably and ATC keeps yapping in your ear it can be task saturating. Something check airmen tend to forget in the simulator. Its only natural when you only fly once a month at best. These pilots did an amazing job and were trained well to do so allowing six people to go home to their families.

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