Ugh: New Video Of 2019 Aeroflot Plane Crash

Ugh: New Video Of 2019 Aeroflot Plane Crash

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In May 2019, Aeroflot had a deadly crash landing with a Sukhoi Superjet 100. The plane was scheduled to operate a flight from Moscow to Murmansk, but after takeoff the pilots declared an emergency.

The plane landed back in Moscow 27 minutes after it took off, and tragically 41 of the 78 people onboard died. While there was some video footage of the incident at the time, some new footage was just released of the incident, which gives a much clearer view of where the plane came to a stop and evacuated.

You can take a look at the video below, though of course some people may prefer not to watch it.

I have a few thoughts based on the video:

  • Ugh, that’s awful to watch
  • It’s impressive that the emergency door was opened within 10 seconds of the plane coming to a stop, and the first passengers were off within 15 seconds
  • This really gives you perspective on the extent to which the rear of the aircraft was on fire even well before the plane came to a stop
  • It’s infuriating to see the number of people getting off the plane with luggage, and to think how those precious seconds probably cost some people their lives; they say it for a reason — in an emergency evacuation, leave all carry-on items behind
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  1. Radvlad Guest

    God what a horrible way to die. People in the back of the plane never had a chance. Hopefully most of them passed out from the smoke.

  2. Basil Foster Guest

    @UpperDeckJohnny
    Thanks for the correction. I think I wondered (I'm about to give a hint to my vintage here) why holding the slides is never mentioned in the safety briefing anymore. Yes, I actually listen to them.
    Interestingly, on my second point about the explosion/deflagration difference, I actually had a conversation about that yesterday with respect to the 9-11 events. The individual kept referring to the jets "exploding" and I had to educate...

    @UpperDeckJohnny
    Thanks for the correction. I think I wondered (I'm about to give a hint to my vintage here) why holding the slides is never mentioned in the safety briefing anymore. Yes, I actually listen to them.
    Interestingly, on my second point about the explosion/deflagration difference, I actually had a conversation about that yesterday with respect to the 9-11 events. The individual kept referring to the jets "exploding" and I had to educate him on the difference between what happens when appropriately termed "explosives" detonate and when combustibles deflagrate.
    Thanks again.

  3. UpperDeckJohnny Guest

    @Basil Foster
    It would not be possible for the slides to be held taught by human power, neither is it necessary. Observing this evacuation you'll see that certainly at the beginning there are 2, 3 or even 4 passengers on the slide at the same time. This weight, which should have continued for a successful 100% evacuation would be enough to hold the slide down even if it were necessary. ("Near vertical" is actually...

    @Basil Foster
    It would not be possible for the slides to be held taught by human power, neither is it necessary. Observing this evacuation you'll see that certainly at the beginning there are 2, 3 or even 4 passengers on the slide at the same time. This weight, which should have continued for a successful 100% evacuation would be enough to hold the slide down even if it were necessary. ("Near vertical" is actually possible anyway. Have you been down a slide from the upper deck of a 747, I have in a mock evacuation. It's near vertical and pretty terrifying, but probably less so if flames are scorching my a** in a real scenario!

    However you are correct on two points. Yes the first two passengers down the slide should hold the slide taught for the remaining passengers. But this is before pneumatic slides and the slides were hand held and canvass (see BOAC B707 G-APWE, LHR 1967)
    And today the first passengers down the slide should be told by the cabin crew to assist in removing people from the bottom of the slide so as not to cause a bottleneck.

  4. Basil Foster Guest

    2 things:
    Aren't the first ones down the slides supposed to help keep them extended so they don't fold and cause injury to people going almost vertically down them?
    In the Emirates video, that wasn't an explosion, it was a deflagration which caused a buildup of pressure in the fuel tank which ruptured violently and blew the wing apart.

  5. David Diamond

    @Callum Then maybe they shouldn't tune out during the safety demonstration/video? Maybe the crew should do their job and direct them to not get their luggage? Maybe the authorities should punish people who did get their luggage?

    This isn't a "ops my bad", this is a matter of life and death. People likely died in this accident because of the selfish assholes.

  6. Steve_cc12 Guest

    If this ever happened to me, once we all got to safety away from the plane, i would 100% go up to any i saw carry their luggage off and hit them square in the face as hard as i could.

  7. Callum Guest

    Do people have to pretend to be shocked about people carrying their luggage EVERY SINGLE TIME this happens?

    Yes, some people are just selfish, but it's incredibly obvious that most people on the plane would be in a state of panic and not thinking rationally. Perhaps you're Mr(s) perfect, unfortunately not everyone else is.

  8. Alex Guest

    @Tom Smith - They can't deploy the slides or evacuate until the engines are shut down otherwise they could get sucked in.

  9. Icarus Guest

    @reginald and you’re an imbecile who clearly lacks the ability to understand my comments

  10. Makein1 Guest

    I would direct @fantasea to this video of an Emirates crash landing in 2016. All survived except for a fireman on the ground. See the explosion? https://youtu.be/sgdRAG_SPaE

  11. UpperDeckJohnny Guest

    @Expat Totally agree and would urge others to do the same.

    Further to my previous, btw and the Cabin Crew allowing pax to sit before going down the slide?

    JUMP and sit. is the method and should also be the instruction.

  12. UpperDeckJohnny Guest

    @Creditcrunch Freudian slip! The passengers weren't on a film shoot! They were on a chute. :)

    This evacuation was abysmal by any standards. A full airplane has to be capable of 100% evacuation through half of the exits in 90 seconds. This aircraft wasn't near full, and the crew should have had time to move all pax forward to the 2 available exits. True the overwings weren't available, but chutes or slides are much faster.

    ...

    @Creditcrunch Freudian slip! The passengers weren't on a film shoot! They were on a chute. :)

    This evacuation was abysmal by any standards. A full airplane has to be capable of 100% evacuation through half of the exits in 90 seconds. This aircraft wasn't near full, and the crew should have had time to move all pax forward to the 2 available exits. True the overwings weren't available, but chutes or slides are much faster.

    Cabin crew failure to control the situation before and after landing. That's what they are there for, just to remind everyone.

  13. Richmond_Surrey Guest

    This crash discouraged me from flying for a bit. I was in Anchorage when I read about it, was plane spotting and then taking 3 planes to get back to London.

    I read about it extensively on different websites and flying forums. All people up to row 10 survived except one person and some people from row 12, 13, 15, 18. Person from row 18 jump out of their seat at first bump and run to the front. I guess, person from row 15 must have run early too.

  14. Reginald New Member

    @Icarus

    Are you an idiot? This is a travel blog.

    ~ The Honorable Reginald

  15. Expat Guest

    @AT In almost all cases, anyone who can afford a plane ticket as mode of transportation can replace anything that is in their baggage, however inconvenient it may be. There is no justification. I agree with Mike. If in such an emergency some a-hole stops to grab their baggage, I'm pushing them out of the way so that the people behind them can get off the plane. Wouldn't hesitate even for a second. The selfish person can wait at the back of the line.

  16. Icarus Guest

    Millions unemployed , hospitalised, dead , in lockdown and the transport industry grounded and you post this ?! Thanks for cheering everyone up

  17. Regina Guest

    If the authorities don't press criminal charged against those passenger with luggage, shame on them.

  18. Paolo Diamond

    This who take their hand luggage in these circumstances should face criminal charges; they are culpable in the deaths of others. I’d throw them in prison for at least a year or two.

  19. Tom Smith Guest

    "It’s impressive that the emergency door was opened within 10 seconds of the plane coming to a stop, and the first passengers were off within 15 seconds"

    No Lucky, that is terrible timing. And the second door is just awful - way too long.

    Both doors should have been open within 5 seconds. First passengers out in under 10.

    Not trying to be overly harsh, but that is the job.

  20. Mike Guest

    To me it's pretty simple. If I'm ever in a situation like that and some jackoff is blocking my ability to get out because they are trying to retrieve their luggage, I'm just gonna lower my shoulder and do like a fullack trying to clear a path into the endzone. Screw em.

  21. David Diamond

    @AT
    Everything is easier to replace than a live lost.

    The people who are shown to have left with their luggage, I hope the authorities identify them and charge them.

  22. AT Gold

    @Ah-
    yes that would be good to do but would be complicated mechanically as each bin would have to have a mechanism built in.

    It is terrible that people feel compelled to retrieve their luggage but someone made an excellent point on this site previously that altered my thinking (I think it was when the Emirates 777-300 crash landed). People who come from less privileged parts of the world where things are not...

    @Ah-
    yes that would be good to do but would be complicated mechanically as each bin would have to have a mechanism built in.

    It is terrible that people feel compelled to retrieve their luggage but someone made an excellent point on this site previously that altered my thinking (I think it was when the Emirates 777-300 crash landed). People who come from less privileged parts of the world where things are not so instantly replaceable are often flying with their most precious possessions- their only laptop which they wouldn't afford to replace. Their passports which they had to stand in line for 8 hours to get a visa in. Their medicines etc etc. nNot that that justifies stopping the aisle to take your baggage with you in situations where a couple seconds could make the difference between your/someone else's life or death, but that does help understand things.

  23. Mr. Obvious Guest

    You may disregard my 'landing on a taxiway' question - I summoned google maps and am able to see a bit of the track of the plane (via skid-mark and point of stopping in the grass) - appears it attempted landing on Runway 24L, but skidded left onto one of the taxiways after the rear landing gear buckled.

  24. Mr. Obvious Guest

    Couple of other distressing things:

    - Based upon the markings, as well as observation of the plane 'bounce-landing' in the video in your initial post, I am not sure this plane landed on an actual Runway - rather came down on a taxiway?

    - According to another article, the pilot has been held responsible for the fatalities - brings up a lot of questions about decisions made (not made) regarding circling to burn fuel, landing...

    Couple of other distressing things:

    - Based upon the markings, as well as observation of the plane 'bounce-landing' in the video in your initial post, I am not sure this plane landed on an actual Runway - rather came down on a taxiway?

    - According to another article, the pilot has been held responsible for the fatalities - brings up a lot of questions about decisions made (not made) regarding circling to burn fuel, landing on a proper runway (if the case), etc.

    - Lightning strikes on aircraft are not uncommon. Assuming this plane had at least one working engine, hard to believe that the plane needed to land so suddenly so as to not burn fuel, let alone land on a working runway.

    Ugh is right. A lot of unknown answers to a tragedy that seems like could have been prevented (or lessened).

  25. Ah Guest

    They should make aircrafts automatically lock the overhead bins during emergencies

  26. Creditcrunch Diamond

    And all those fools with their hand luggage, one passenger struggles with a huge bag causing delays on the shoot.

  27. Ben O. New Member

    How about the crew member (I think) that goes back on the plane towards the end of the video to seemingly help more ppl off?

  28. Peter Diamond

    Probably not an explosion... but still crazy that you would stay that close to it. The guy in the black shirt in particular, one of the first few off, turns to take a video and is standing what must be no more than 15 feet from that inferno. "Stupid is as stupid does."

  29. Stuart Diamond

    Right at the end there is one last passenger or crew that exits long after everyone else. Firefighters seem to be covering him/her. I've never seen a video like that before and yeah, the people carrying their bags is incredible to me.

  30. @fantasea Guest

    @A-a-ron, take it easy....this isn't the movies.

  31. Aaron Member

    It's also incredible how many of these people just stopped next to the plane to take photos or video. Do they not realize how that's a possible explosion waiting to happen?

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Radvlad Guest

God what a horrible way to die. People in the back of the plane never had a chance. Hopefully most of them passed out from the smoke.

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Basil Foster Guest

@UpperDeckJohnny Thanks for the correction. I think I wondered (I'm about to give a hint to my vintage here) why holding the slides is never mentioned in the safety briefing anymore. Yes, I actually listen to them. Interestingly, on my second point about the explosion/deflagration difference, I actually had a conversation about that yesterday with respect to the 9-11 events. The individual kept referring to the jets "exploding" and I had to educate him on the difference between what happens when appropriately termed "explosives" detonate and when combustibles deflagrate. Thanks again.

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UpperDeckJohnny Guest

@Basil Foster It would not be possible for the slides to be held taught by human power, neither is it necessary. Observing this evacuation you'll see that certainly at the beginning there are 2, 3 or even 4 passengers on the slide at the same time. This weight, which should have continued for a successful 100% evacuation would be enough to hold the slide down even if it were necessary. ("Near vertical" is actually possible anyway. Have you been down a slide from the upper deck of a 747, I have in a mock evacuation. It's near vertical and pretty terrifying, but probably less so if flames are scorching my a** in a real scenario! However you are correct on two points. Yes the first two passengers down the slide should hold the slide taught for the remaining passengers. But this is before pneumatic slides and the slides were hand held and canvass (see BOAC B707 G-APWE, LHR 1967) And today the first passengers down the slide should be told by the cabin crew to assist in removing people from the bottom of the slide so as not to cause a bottleneck.

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