St. Regis Hotels & Resorts: The Best Of Marriott, Or A Brand Bonvoyed?

St. Regis Hotels & Resorts: The Best Of Marriott, Or A Brand Bonvoyed?

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In recent times, I’ve been writing a series about some of the world’s popular luxury hotel groups, both big and small.

Some time back, I wrote a post about the Ritz-Carlton brand, posing the question of whether it’s the pinnacle of hospitality, or a brand full of generic luxury factories. In this post, I’d like to take a look at what’s perhaps regarded as Marriott’s other top “mainstream” brand, which is St. Regis.

It’s a brand that I feel has changed quite a bit over the years, and I can’t help but be less excited about it than in the past. The brand still has many great hotels, but not with the level of consistency we saw in the past, in my opinion. Let’s start with a bit of background, and then I’ll share my take.

Basics & background of the St. Regis brand

Nowadays the St. Regis brand is owned by Marriott, and it has just over 60 properties across the globe. The history of what ultimately became St. Regis dates back over 120 years, though the brand has really only become mainstream in the past 30 years.

St. Regis was founded in 1904, when John Jacob Astor built the St. Regis New York, as a sister property to the original Waldorf-Astoria New York, which he partly owned (this is different from the current Waldorf Astoria, which was only built in 1931). The John Jacob Astor name should sound familiar for any frequent St. Regis guest, given that some suite categories are named after him.

Not a whole lot of growth happened with the brand for many decades. In 1966, Sheraton purchased the property, and after an extensive renovation in 1991, the hotel became the flagship for the company, and was branded as the ITT Sheraton Luxury Collection.

Things really got interesting in 1997, when Starwood acquired the Sheraton brand from ITT. In 1998, Starwood decided to formally launch the St. Regis brand, with the rebranding of the the former Ritz-Carlton Aspen as the St. Regis Aspen. Then in 1999, Starwood rebranded the Carlton Hotel in Washington DC as the St. Regis Washington DC.

That’s how the modern day brand was born, and from there, the brand continued to grow. Then in 2016, Marriott acquired Starwood, and with that, the St. Regis brand. Given the size of Marriott’s portfolio, it’s of course not surprising to have overlapping brands, but it’s funny that St. Regis and Ritz-Carlton were initially supposed to be direct competitors, but now belong to the same group (which isn’t to say that individual hotels don’t compete with one another).

The St. Regis New York is where it all started, in 1904

St. Regis used to be my favorite Marriott Bonvoy brand

Going back 10-15 years, St. Regis was probably my favorite major hotel brand, especially in the Starwood days, and even in the early days of Marriott having acquired the brand:

  • St. Regis used to be a brand with a lot of “flagship” properties, which is to say that when a St. Regis was built, it was generally very high quality, had an ideal location, a consistent design concept, etc.
  • It felt like St. Regis properties consistently had excellent service, and wouldn’t cut corners in any major ways
  • I’ve always appreciated that St. Regis is a brand that fully participates in Marriott Bonvoy, so Bonvoy Platinum members can receive complimentary breakfast and other perks, while brands like Ritz-Carlton skimp on that

St. Regis properties just consistently delivered. When you think of the portfolio 15(ish) years ago, which included properties in Aspen, Bal Harbour, Bali, Bora Bora, Florence, New York, Punta Mita, Rome, San Francisco, it was really a very high quality collection of hotels.

St. Regis has some popular “flagship” properties

The St. Regis brand has really been watered down over the years

I have a harder time getting excited about the St. Regis brand than in the past, and I think that probably comes down to a few primary factors (and I’m curious how others feel).

The obvious factor is what I like to call the Marriott effect. We’ve increasingly seen over the years that Marriott isn’t really in the hospitality business, but instead, is in the room count and hotel owner relationship business. Admittedly that’s technically the case for all hotel management and franchise companies, but you definitely feel it more with Marriott than with others, and it’s especially evident with luxury brands.

This is true in terms of delivery of elite benefits being much less consistent than in the past (like the St. Regis Macao just refusing to give elite members breakfast, and Marriott doing nothing about it), to just generally less consistent and personalized service (I used to love the butler service coffee feature, but nowadays I feel like the benefit comes with more terms & conditions than a sweepstakes, with little consistency between properties).

It also increasingly feels like Marriott isn’t actually holding hotel owners to any standards in terms of design, location, or vibe, when it comes to what can be a St. Regis. It’s pretty wild to me that St. Regis is increasingly becoming a conversion brand, where existing hotels with totally different designs can now become St. Regis properties.

Heck, we’re even seeing Marriott now create the St. Regis Estates brand, because… well, who really knows, but we have reason to be suspicious about the motive.

It just feels like the St. Regis brand is losing steam quite a bit. Yes, new hotels are still opening, but very few of them strike me as global “flagship” properties. The new, purpose-built St. Regis properties are mostly in what I’d consider to be secondary markets or non-ideal locations, while the more globally “mainstream” properties seem to be conversions of existing hotels, which just don’t otherwise fit the St. Regis vibe.

Again, I’m not trying to say St. Regis is dead as a brand, or anything. Instead, I’m just saying that I think at this point you have to deliberately choose whether you want to stay at each individual St. Regis, rather than it being a brand where you can just think “oh, this will be among the best in the city.”

St. Regis still has some great hotels, just not as consistently

Aren’t all luxury brands being enshittified, though?

Admittedly many people would likely point out that the general enshittification of chain hotels is widespread. I’d say that’s largely true, and I get it — the hotel giants all want to grow at any cost, and appealing to investors of newly built hotels is difficult. So getting a conversion and lowering standards as needed is the next best thing, and their only option, they feel like.

I’d say if you look at the major hotel groups with points programs, there’s probably one luxury brand that’s most trending upward, and that’s Waldorf Astoria. Waldorf Astoria really is on an incredible streak in terms of winning contracts for very lucrative, flagship properties. That’s not to say that all new Waldorf Astoria properties are incredible, but I’d say it’s probably the mainstream luxury points brand portfolio that’s building the most impressive portfolio at the moment.

Am I the only one who feels that way? If others agree, I can’t help but wonder what Waldorf Astoria and Hilton are doing right, that competitors are missing…

St. Regis is less consistent than in the past, in my opinion

Bottom line

St. Regis continues to be one of the better major hotel groups out there with a points program, and in particular, in the Marriott Bonvoy portfolio (given that most elite perks are honored at St. Regis properties).

However, it does feel like general standards (service, property design, etc.) have been compromised over the years. While that’s true of most major hotel groups nowadays, it seems to be especially common with St. Regis nowadays.

I still very much enjoy the St. Regis brand, and stay at the hotels when I can. However, I do a lot more research on each individual St. Regis before deciding to book it, because I think consistency has decreased hugely, and the brand as such can no longer be relied on to delivery a consistent standard.

Where do you stand on the current state of the St. Regis brand?

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  1. ND Guest

    From the post:
    " I’m just saying that I think at this point you have to deliberately choose whether you want to stay at each individual St. Regis"

    This sums up the entire Bonvoy loyalty program.

    One has to select the right individual Bonvoy hotels to have a properly delivered stay experience. There are many excellent Bonvoy hotels, St. Regis included. Unfortunately, there are too many hotels that don't play by Bonvoy's rules,...

    From the post:
    " I’m just saying that I think at this point you have to deliberately choose whether you want to stay at each individual St. Regis"

    This sums up the entire Bonvoy loyalty program.

    One has to select the right individual Bonvoy hotels to have a properly delivered stay experience. There are many excellent Bonvoy hotels, St. Regis included. Unfortunately, there are too many hotels that don't play by Bonvoy's rules, select St. Regis included. To get the most out of the Bonvoy loyalty program, one must be selective about which hotels are honor-roll worthy in delivering service and benefits. One must also avoid the hotels that don't play by the rules. If only there were a website or forum that had a list of Bonvoy properties that don't play by the rules...

    I can see that St. Regis as a brand though is losing it's luster, despite some excellent remaining properties.

  2. AnthonyJoseph Guest

    It's about time that there is a class action lawsuit to Marriott Bonvoy program to not delivering on marketed promises for the elite programs and NOT interveinig and enforcing elite amenities.
    What is more egregious for the Mariott brand is the lack of enforcement standards for each category of hotels, particularly the condition of the hotels

  3. digital_notmad Diamond

    at this point, the opportunity cost of acquiring enough HHonors or Bonvoy points for a meaningful stay at a nice property is prohibitive, and WoH is rapidly careening in that direction too - i've shifted my loyalty and earning strategy to airlines only, and i'm now booking my stays with boutique competitors to the major brands going forward

  4. NC Guest

    Stayed at the St. Regis Chicago recently. Both restaurants are very good but the location is not really convenient. Also, the finishes in the room are a bit cheap. Chrome-looking hand held shower that’s actually plastic for example. I chuckled at the Westin comment. It’s not the FS or even a Park Hyatt. My rule of thumb seems to be the more expensive the rate, the less they offer like say free coffee in the...

    Stayed at the St. Regis Chicago recently. Both restaurants are very good but the location is not really convenient. Also, the finishes in the room are a bit cheap. Chrome-looking hand held shower that’s actually plastic for example. I chuckled at the Westin comment. It’s not the FS or even a Park Hyatt. My rule of thumb seems to be the more expensive the rate, the less they offer like say free coffee in the AM, how much does that cost? They did have Nespresso in the room to their credit but didn’t want to wake up my family and nothing until 7AM.

  5. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    St. Regis was the best Bonvoy brand, but then, predictably, Marriott ruined it by allowing conversion properties into the brand, opening hotels in markets that likely can’t support it (Sarasota, for example), and cheapening the design and decor standards at new or newly renovated properties. Have you seen the latest designs and decor? The rooms look like a Westin.

  6. Samar Gold

    I've stayed at only one St. Regis (Abu Dhabi) earlier this year, and I thought the experience was good (it was an Amex FHR stay which I'm sure helped). I'm planning to stay at Hong Kong in September (that one will be using free night certs + points), and I'm hopeful Asian hospitality will make it a good experience.

    I have stayed at 2 WAs (Edinburgh before it converted, and Dubai) and I agree the...

    I've stayed at only one St. Regis (Abu Dhabi) earlier this year, and I thought the experience was good (it was an Amex FHR stay which I'm sure helped). I'm planning to stay at Hong Kong in September (that one will be using free night certs + points), and I'm hopeful Asian hospitality will make it a good experience.

    I have stayed at 2 WAs (Edinburgh before it converted, and Dubai) and I agree the experience has been better. Will be doing an overnight in New York (another free night cert) and I'm hopeful for a good experience there.

  7. Bobby J Gold

    I would argue that among chain hotels, Raffles and a few of the other Accor brands are on the up and up. Especially Raffles.

    1. PeteAU Guest

      Shhhh! The last thing we need is Americans finding-out about Accor!

  8. 1990 Guest

    I prefer St. Regis over Ritz-Carlton, namely because St. Regis actually provides complimentary breakfast for Platinum elite and above, whereas RC usually doesn't. Also, sabering.

  9. gstork Guest

    My first stay at a St Regis was in the early 90’s at their flagship property in NY at 55th & 5th. Amazing stay. Since then I’ve had many stays in their properties in the US, Europe and Asia. Some things are still great, but there has been a decline.

    I still think Ritz Carlton’s decline is much worse though. I now tend to shift my stays to Four Seasons, or a local non-chain luxury hotel. Fewer disappointments and more nice surprises.

    1. windswd Guest

      fully agree with you. St Regis marginally better than Ritz Carlton. And am also moving away from POINTS to QUALITY: Four Seasons, Rocco Forte, maybe Rosewood...

    2. CPH-Flyer Diamond

      I have only stayed in one Four Seasons, the Sydney Four Seasons. I knew going in that it was not likely to be one of their flagship properties. But I have to say, after that stay I am very certain that I will be continue to back to the Sheraton Hyde Park.

  10. CPH-Flyer Diamond

    What is it Hilton is doing? Rather than allowing the properties to get away with not following the elite benefits, they just officially have very few elite benefits, and devalue the points beyond reason. The T&Cs basically have no rights of late check out, and suite uogrades can be flaunted fully within the rules.

    As the footprint of luxury hotels grow, it gets more and more difficult to find prime locations. The new Raffles in...

    What is it Hilton is doing? Rather than allowing the properties to get away with not following the elite benefits, they just officially have very few elite benefits, and devalue the points beyond reason. The T&Cs basically have no rights of late check out, and suite uogrades can be flaunted fully within the rules.

    As the footprint of luxury hotels grow, it gets more and more difficult to find prime locations. The new Raffles in Tokyo will be at Hamamatsucho Station, and look at where the Fairmont popped up in Tokyo. There is just not a ever growing supply of aspirational and amazing locations. The Waldorf Osaka? You can't really claim that is in a top notch location. It is a convenient location, but that is really about it. The Park Hyatt Kuala Lumpur does not even get that under the belt, it is not even a convenient location for anything.

    As for St Regis, I have only stayed at New York, Maldives, Bangkok, Osaka, Hong Kong and Singapore. So my base is a bit limited. But I can't say I have had any disappointments on any off them. Though Osaka did seem a bit more standard up scale hotel than the rest.

  11. Gene Guest

    Stayed at 2 or 3 before blacklisting Marriott. Over-hyped brand, on par with Westin. Not impressed.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Teehee. I knew you'd have something spicy for us!

  12. stvr Guest

    Hard post to read but totally fair. Very very sad.

  13. Anthony (The Bulkhead Seat) Guest

    I love the St. Regis brand and find most of the properties to be great. In the US, St. Regis Bal Harbour is my favorite beach resort of any brand. Others like the St. Regis Rome and even newer properties like the St. Regis Cap Cana Resort are still great. I'm going to agree to disagree here. Marriott has done a lot to destroy what was loved with SPG, but making the St. Regis brand...

    I love the St. Regis brand and find most of the properties to be great. In the US, St. Regis Bal Harbour is my favorite beach resort of any brand. Others like the St. Regis Rome and even newer properties like the St. Regis Cap Cana Resort are still great. I'm going to agree to disagree here. Marriott has done a lot to destroy what was loved with SPG, but making the St. Regis brand to maintain some benefits has been great. I have been upgraded to suites that would have cost thousands of dollars and that in and of itself is worth it. I never liked the butler service or used it for anything, so that was never of interest to me.

  14. UA-NYC Diamond

    Most surprising is that they haven’t eliminated the breakfast benefit to align with RC. That’s a cost center!

    Basically nothing good left from Starwood or SPG at this point.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Agreed. As soon as they axe that complimentary breakfast, it's toast. Or, technically, no toast.

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CPH-Flyer Diamond

What is it Hilton is doing? Rather than allowing the properties to get away with not following the elite benefits, they just officially have very few elite benefits, and devalue the points beyond reason. The T&Cs basically have no rights of late check out, and suite uogrades can be flaunted fully within the rules. As the footprint of luxury hotels grow, it gets more and more difficult to find prime locations. The new Raffles in Tokyo will be at Hamamatsucho Station, and look at where the Fairmont popped up in Tokyo. There is just not a ever growing supply of aspirational and amazing locations. The Waldorf Osaka? You can't really claim that is in a top notch location. It is a convenient location, but that is really about it. The Park Hyatt Kuala Lumpur does not even get that under the belt, it is not even a convenient location for anything. As for St Regis, I have only stayed at New York, Maldives, Bangkok, Osaka, Hong Kong and Singapore. So my base is a bit limited. But I can't say I have had any disappointments on any off them. Though Osaka did seem a bit more standard up scale hotel than the rest.

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ND Guest

From the post: " I’m just saying that I think at this point you have to deliberately choose whether you want to stay at each individual St. Regis" This sums up the entire Bonvoy loyalty program. One has to select the right individual Bonvoy hotels to have a properly delivered stay experience. There are many excellent Bonvoy hotels, St. Regis included. Unfortunately, there are too many hotels that don't play by Bonvoy's rules, select St. Regis included. To get the most out of the Bonvoy loyalty program, one must be selective about which hotels are honor-roll worthy in delivering service and benefits. One must also avoid the hotels that don't play by the rules. If only there were a website or forum that had a list of Bonvoy properties that don't play by the rules... I can see that St. Regis as a brand though is losing it's luster, despite some excellent remaining properties.

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AnthonyJoseph Guest

It's about time that there is a class action lawsuit to Marriott Bonvoy program to not delivering on marketed promises for the elite programs and NOT interveinig and enforcing elite amenities. What is more egregious for the Mariott brand is the lack of enforcement standards for each category of hotels, particularly the condition of the hotels

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