Ritz-Carlton: The Pinnacle Of Hospitality, Or Generic Luxury Factories?

Ritz-Carlton: The Pinnacle Of Hospitality, Or Generic Luxury Factories?

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In recent times, I’ve been writing a series about some of the world’s luxury hotel groups, both big and small. This includes everything from Airelles to Four Seasons.

In this post, I’d like to talk broadly about Ritz-Carlton Hotels and Resorts. Okay, just about everyone knows what Ritz-Carlton is, as it’s one of the world’s most well known luxury hotel brands. That being said, is it really all it’s cracked up to be, and how will it evolve over time? Let’s start with a bit of background, and then I’ll share my take…

Basics & background of the Ritz-Carlton brand

Nowadays Ritz-Carlton is owned by Marriott, and it has well over 100 properties around the globe, with dozens of properties in development.

The history of what ultimately became Ritz-Carlton goes back over 125 years, to the late 1800s. The brand began with Swiss hotelier César Ritz, known in the industry as the “king of hoteliers and hotelier to kings.” He’s the person behind The Ritz Paris and The Carlton London (the former has no association with modern day Ritz-Carlton, and the latter is no longer open).

The Ritz Paris isn’t a modern day Ritz-Carlton, but…

The specific Ritz-Carlton brand was first used in the early 1900s, when Ritz-Carlton restaurants were opened onboard ships, though that only lasted for a year, until World War I broke out. Ritz also died in 1918, though his wife continued the tradition of opening hotels named after him.

Now, I don’t want to go on too much of a tangent, so let’s fast forward to 1983, which is when the current version of Ritz-Carlton was founded, as it’s when the previous owners sold the brand name and the Ritz-Carlton property in Boston. That’s really what launched the modern day version of Ritz-Carlton.

A little over a decade later, in 1995, Marriott bought a 49% stake in Ritz-Carlton, in order to expand in the luxury segment. Then in 1998, Marriott purchased an additional 50% stake in Ritz-Carlton, giving it 99% ownership. So there’s no denying that Ritz-Carlton has an incredibly legacy, as there aren’t many hotel groups that go back this far.

The Ritz-Carlton brand has a lot of history

Ritz-Carlton is a consistently high quality hotel group

To Ritz-Carlton’s credit, there’s no denying that the brand is near the top of the Marriott portfolio, and that Ritz-Carlton offers hotels that are generally high quality. The hotels typically have good service, and at least some perks associated with luxury hotels are consistent, like turndown service.

I think one thing that Ritz-Carlton does exceptionally well is having high quality club lounges. There’s not a hotel group that offers excellent lounges as consistently as Ritz-Carlton. Admittedly you don’t get upgrades to club rooms on account of Bonvoy elite status, and access is very expensive. But if you’re willing to pay, at least you get a very nice experience.

Ritz-Carlton club lounges are high quality

To be honest, I’m not sure I have a whole lot of other nice things to say about the Ritz-Carlton brand at large, which brings me to my next point…

Ritz-Carlton also suffers from the Marriott effect

Like every hotel group, there’s inconsistency between individual hotels belonging to Ritz-Carlton. As you’d expect, some are much higher quality than others, and on top of that, geography also plays into the quality of a hotel experience (that’s true across hotel groups, generally).

For example, while the Ritz-Carlton Turks & Caicos has a nice setting on Grace Beach, I still can’t get over how cheap the finishes in the hotel are.

The Ritz Carlton Turks & Caicos hotel hallway, oh my

Personally, among luxury hotel groups, I don’t think of Ritz-Carlton particularly highly. I think part of the issue is that Ritz-Carlton belongs to Marriott, and we’ve increasingly seen over the years that Marriott isn’t really in the hospitality business, but instead, is in the room count and hotel owner relationship business. Admittedly that’s technically the case for all hotel management and franchise companies, but you definitely feel it more with Marriott than with others.

It feels like Ritz-Carlton largely uses the Marriott Bonvoy program as a crutch to fill rooms and to get away with offering a mediocre experience. I can’t blame the hotel group, since these loyalty programs work. There’s a certain irony to this, though, since Ritz-Carlton is a brand that offers very limited elite perks for Bonvoy members.

It just feels like so much about Ritz-Carlton has been “Marriottized” over the years. Personally, I think service at Ritz-Carlton is often rather canned and overly scripted, rather than sincere and anticipatory. Like, the focus seems to be more on incorporating the guest’s last name into every sentence, rather than actually understanding what they need, or how to create a frictionless stay.

Similarly, as we’ve seen so many Ritz-Carlton properties renovated, I can’t help but feel like the design choices are often very generic, and not necessarily different than what you’d expect at a mid-range Marriott property.

Ritz-Carlton properties are becoming increasingly generic

Ritz-Carlton also operates a lot of hotels with high room counts, and at times, the properties feel like “luxury factories” (View from the Wing coined the term “resort factories” for Ritz-Carlton back in 2013, and I think that’s accurate). Rather than some sort of exclusive, top notch luxury properties, you often just feel like you’re part of an assembly line. “Oh, you didn’t make a reservation for breakfast while you’re on vacation? That’ll be a 45-minute wait!”

I think at least on paper, Ritz-Carlton and Four Seasons are direct competitors, but I think Four Seasons is an exponentially higher quality hotel group. Both have similar portfolios and operate roughly similarly sized hotels, but I find that Four Seasons has some things that really set it apart — a higher base level of finishes, actually exceptional service with engaged employees, being very kids friendly, etc. I think that partly comes down to Four Seasons having to win business with every stay based on the guest experience, rather than based on a loyalty program.

I wonder what the future holds for Ritz-Carlton

I can’t help but wonder how the Ritz-Carlton brand will modernize for a younger generation. When I think of the Ritz-Carlton brand, the first thing that comes to mind is a hotel that’s probably a bit past its prime, with a huge lobby that has a lot of marble.

The Ritz-Carlton Sarasota lobby is pretty typical for the brand

I think the brand was maybe at its (modern) prime in the 1990s, and there’s no denying that many older folks have a very fond perception of the brand. I do wonder how Ritz-Carlton will modernize for a younger generation, though.

What’s interesting is that it seems like EDITION is Marriott’s luxury brand that’s intended for a younger crowd, though that brand has its own issues, as I see it. The question is, how do you modernize the Ritz-Carlton brand, while differentiating it from EDITION?

For example, I recently stayed at the Ritz-Carlton Bangkok, and I think that’s one direction the hotel group could go. It’s sort of the same luxury generic design you’d expect from Ritz-Carlton, but it’s modernized a bit.

Ritz-Carlton Bangkok lobby

But I think another interesting direction is the Ritz-Carlton New York NoMad, which I actually really liked, though it almost feels like it’s not a Ritz-Carlton. It’s modern, it doesn’t have some massive marble lobby, and the hotel has a variety of dining outlets from José Andrés, which are super popular with locals as well.

Ritz-Carlton New York NoMad dining venue

The New York NoMad property almost feels like a hybrid between a Ritz-Carlton and an EDITION, in terms of the vibe, since EDITION is known for its trendy venues (even if hospitality often leaves something to be desired).

So it’s going to be interesting to see if over the coming years, most new Ritz-Carlton properties are more like Bangkok, or more like New York. Either way, consumer tastes are evolving, and I do think Ritz-Carlton needs a bit of a refresh.

Bottom line

While Ritz-Carlton is one of Marriott’s flagship luxury brands, it definitely uses the Bonvoy program as a crutch to compete with other true luxury hotel groups. Ritz-Carlton properties are consistently pretty high quality, though I don’t find them to be up to the level of Four Seasons, Rosewood, etc.

What stands out to me most about the brand is the huge inconsistency in terms of the quality of properties, and the not terribly sincere service, at least in my experience. I am curious to see how the Ritz-Carlton brand will evolve for a younger generation, especially without cannibalizing fellow Marriott brand EDITION.

What’s your perception of the Ritz-Carlton brand?

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  1. Jeff Guest

    My experience, absolutely. It does seem to be worse in the U.S. The R-C in Denver is a joke, but we loved our recent stay at the R-C in Berlin.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      Ritz-Carlton Denver and Ritz-Carlton Philadelphia are among the worst non-resort Ritz-Carlton properties anywhere in the chain's portfolio. Your average Westin and JW Marriott are nicer.

    2. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      It's not just below-standard service at Denver and Philadelphia properties. Both properties have dumpy rooms that are 5-8 years overdue for an exhaustive renovation. Extremely worn and poorly maintained.

  2. Name Guest

    Polished chrome (RC) versus real silver (MO,FS). For same $, better deal elsewhere.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      Look at the Ritz-Carlton Sarasota. The decor looks like a Marriott or Westin.

  3. Euro Diamond

    More often than not it seems to be a case of the brand name holding more cache and prestige than the actual property itself. It is possible to have fantastic Ritz Carltons (I loved my stay at the Kyoto property) but I usually seek out other luxury brands (oftentimes at better value) where I feel like I would have enjoyed it just as much. Oh and the benefits at the Ritz Carlton. HA, more like lack thereof.

  4. Jason Guest

    They can be ok. I've had good experiences with them but in general it's not the same level as supposed rivals. They're the Ruth's Chris of "luxury" hotels. Fine, bland, somewhat generic, but purports to be "fancy" and generally a step above your usual mass chain.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      I think that's a good way of putting it. Ruth Chris. But not Capital Grille. St. Regis is more like Capital Grille.

    2. 1990 Guest

      Which ‘brand’ is the Outback? W? Moxy? ‘No rules, just right.’

    3. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      I'd describe Marriott's Marriott brand as Outback.

    4. 1990 Guest

      Marriott… the Chocolate Thunder from Down Under of hotel stays…

      Courtyard… the Bloomin’ Onion…

  5. 1990 Guest

    Bonvoy Platinum breakfast benefit? Nope.

    Yeah, that’s lame. Like, if St. Regis can include breakfast when Ritz-Carlton can’t, I’mm’a prefer the one that does.

  6. AeroB13a Diamond

    It is an acknowledged fact that when some hotel conglomerates have taken over long established notable hotels, the standards are lowered toward the lowest common denominator. There is a distinct difference between the running of a roadside motel and a classic hotel.
    One such lowering of standards is when the hotel group allows points redemption customers to benefit from the once exclusivity. OMAAT is providing the discerning customer with the opportunity to become better...

    It is an acknowledged fact that when some hotel conglomerates have taken over long established notable hotels, the standards are lowered toward the lowest common denominator. There is a distinct difference between the running of a roadside motel and a classic hotel.
    One such lowering of standards is when the hotel group allows points redemption customers to benefit from the once exclusivity. OMAAT is providing the discerning customer with the opportunity to become better informed about the potential hotel guest experience.

  7. Fred Guest

    Property owners lease a brand's name. At a point in time, what was brand X yesterday is brand Y today. Brand is meaningless. What matters is the quality of a specific property.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      Property owners don't "lease" a name. Some brands "franchise," while others "license" their name. Neither is the same as leasing.

      In the case of Ritz-Carlton, approximately 99% of all Ritz-Carlton properties are neither franchised nor licensed. Marriott either owns or manages these properties (or both) on behalf of the owner. Only three or four Ritz-Carlton properties are franchised or otherwise licensed: Montreal, Chicago, and, I believe, Kuala Lumpur.

  8. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    I’ve always viewed Ritz-Carlton as a brand that appeals to two types of guests: (1) those who don’t actually know what true luxury is and (2) snobs who just want to impress others by casually dropping that they’re staying at “the Ritz.”

    Of course, Ritz-Carlton is not actually part of the historic Ritz brand. In fact, it wasn't that long ago when the Ritz-Carlton in Chicago was a Four Seasons and the Ritz-Carlton in...

    I’ve always viewed Ritz-Carlton as a brand that appeals to two types of guests: (1) those who don’t actually know what true luxury is and (2) snobs who just want to impress others by casually dropping that they’re staying at “the Ritz.”

    Of course, Ritz-Carlton is not actually part of the historic Ritz brand. In fact, it wasn't that long ago when the Ritz-Carlton in Chicago was a Four Seasons and the Ritz-Carlton in Montreal was independent.

    Are there markets with legitimate luxury Ritz-Carlton properties? Absolutely.

    But there are many markets that simply cannot support a true luxury hotel, yet still have a Ritz-Carlton. This is often due to staffing challenges (St. Thomas is a clear example, and I’d now argue Sarasota as well—especially since it has both a Ritz-Carlton and a St. Regis) or the nature of the property itself (the resort factories).

    Marriott diluted the Ritz-Carlton brand by applying it to both iconic downtown landmark hotels and massive, high-volume resorts (the resort factories). I would actually argue that years ago Marriott should have created separate brands for its resort properties instead of lumping resorts under the same brand as non-resort properties. Especially now that Marriott is creating a new brand every couple months.

    And as you said, many of the new or newly renovated Ritz-Carlton properties now look indistinguishable from a Marriott or a Westin.

    Don’t get me started on the Ritz-Carlton club lounges. Sarasota and Toronto serve JP Chenet as the lounge's sparkling wine.

    1. Fred Guest

      There are expensive hotels and then there are "true" luxury hotels, with the key difference being the service level. Gone are the days in which employees (as a whole) embodied "Ladies and gentlemen serving ladies and gentlemen."

    2. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      Correct. There is zero correlation between price and luxury/star rating.

      However, I would argue that it’s almost impossible to have true five-star luxury hotels in much of the USA because you can’t properly staff them. Look at the Ritz-Carlton in Philadelphia or the Ritz-Carlton in St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands. In St. Thomas, they have to hire "local staff" as a condition for tax breaks. You literally cannot find "local staff" who are capable...

      Correct. There is zero correlation between price and luxury/star rating.

      However, I would argue that it’s almost impossible to have true five-star luxury hotels in much of the USA because you can’t properly staff them. Look at the Ritz-Carlton in Philadelphia or the Ritz-Carlton in St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands. In St. Thomas, they have to hire "local staff" as a condition for tax breaks. You literally cannot find "local staff" who are capable of delivering the service standard one expects.

      The vast majority of purported luxury hotels in the United States would struggle to achieve and maintain the French Palace hotel designation.

    3. UncleRonnie Diamond

      It's hard to deliver a high-quality service when you're constantly grifting for tips.

    4. Jason Guest

      The Ritz Carlton Aruba was.... I mean... a "fine" enough hotel... but not worth the price paid. Certainly not luxury.

    5. Anna Guest

      I’ve always viewed Ritz-Carlton as a brand that appeals to two types of guests: (1) those who don’t actually know what true luxury is and (2) snobs who just want to impress others by casually dropping that they’re staying at “the Ritz.”

      And add (3) - points bloggers (subset of (1))
      and add (4) - people who points bloggers (aka peddlers) got commission off signing up for credit cards staying on free nights who then can gleefully join (2)

    6. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      @Anna. Yes, that's true.

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FNT Delta Diamond Guest

It's not just below-standard service at Denver and Philadelphia properties. Both properties have dumpy rooms that are 5-8 years overdue for an exhaustive renovation. Extremely worn and poorly maintained.

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FNT Delta Diamond Guest

Ritz-Carlton Denver and Ritz-Carlton Philadelphia are among the worst non-resort Ritz-Carlton properties anywhere in the chain's portfolio. Your average Westin and JW Marriott are nicer.

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FNT Delta Diamond Guest

Look at the Ritz-Carlton Sarasota. The decor looks like a Marriott or Westin.

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