While this doesn’t impact passengers much, as an aviation geek I find this to be an interesting development.
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Airline pilots are rated on specific aircraft
Generally speaking, airline pilots are type rated on specific jets, meaning that they’re trained to fly specific aircraft. That makes sense, because being a pilot is a highly technical job, and requires a lot of training and expertise. Not only do planes handle differently, but pilots are trained for every possible emergency scenario on a particular plane.
That being said, in some cases there’s a common type rating between planes, meaning that pilots can often fly multiple types of aircraft:
- At most airlines, pilots can fly any variant of a particular type of aircraft; in other words, a pilot might fly the Airbus A320 family of aircraft, and that include the A319, A320, A321, A321neo, A321LR, etc.
- When there’s enough cockpit commonality, pilots can sometimes also fly otherwise different types of jets; for example, the 757 and 767 can have a common type rating, as can the A330 and A350
Etihad Airways adds A380 & A350 pilot commonality
Etihad Airways has announced that it has become one of the first airlines in the world to allow pilots to fly both the Airbus A380 and A350. As you’d expect, quite a bit went into making this possible, including introducing new training procedures in partnership with Airbus, and getting regulatory approval.
While Etihad is one of the first airlines to have mixed fleet flying with the A380 and A350, it’s not the first time we’ve seen an airline introduce flying commonality with the A380. In 2021, All Nippon Airways introduced mixed fleet flying between the A380 and A320, with the two aircraft having even more of a size difference.
Here’s how Etihad Chief Operating Officer Mohammed Al Bulooki describes this development:
“Etihad Airways is proud to be the one of the very first airlines to qualify its pilots to fly both the Airbus A350 and A380. This achievement will enhance the resilience and flexibility of the airline’s network and is testament to our commitment to continuously push the boundaries of efficiency, innovation, and customer satisfaction, and at all times ensuring safety is Etihad’s number one priority.”
Over the past decade, Etihad has obtained similar approvals to qualify Airbus and Boeing pilots to interchangeably fly various aircraft types. For example, the airline used to have mixed fleet flying with the Airbus A320, A330, and A340, but those wide body aircraft have been retired. Meanwhile the airline continues to offer mixed fleet flying between the Boeing 777 and 787.
Currently both Etihad’s A380 and A350 fleets are quite small. Etihad flies just four A380s, while the airline flies just five A350s, though has 15 more of those on order.
The benefits to Etihad of mixed fleet flying are significant. This allows a lot more efficient scheduling, since you have a larger pool of pilots who can fly either plane, rather than just one plane. This allows airlines to have common reserve pilots for both aircraft, allows pilots to maximize their hours in a given month, etc.
I’m sure most pilots will also love this. After all, Etihad’s A380 currently just flies to London, and will soon fly to New York. So Etihad A380 pilots don’t have much variety in terms of where they fly to. Their Heathrow Airport hotel is basically their second home.
I do wonder how this works in terms of pilot pay. At many airlines, pay scales differ based on how big of a plane you’re flying, and then seniority plays into which plane you fly. With mixed fleet flying, will pilots get paid more when flying an A380 than an A350, or will there just be a consistent scale somewhere in the middle?
I know Etihad has a different pay scale than carriers in the United States, where pilots get a monthly salary, plus a set amount per flight hour.
Bottom line
Thanks to new approval from the UAE’s Civil Aviation Authority, Etihad pilots are now able to fly both the Airbus A380 and A350. While the concept of a common type rating between planes is normal, it’s interesting how airlines are stretching those ratings with planes that have significant differences. Etihad now has common pilots for both the A380 and A350, and for both the 777 and 787.
This improvement will make pilot scheduling more efficient, and should save the airline a bit of money. I imagine many pilots will also enjoy having a bit more variety in terms of their schedule.
What do you make of this mixed fleet flying development at Etihad?
This would be perfect for Lufthansa in Munich.
Seems not great for safety. Even if the cockpits are roughly similar, those are two very different types of aircraft in terms of size, number of engines, etc. It really seems like it's stretching the common type rating concept.
This does not instill confidence in the independence of the UAE's aviation regulator.
Mixed fleet flying such as this has led to some close calls specifically with UAE carriers.
I’ve gotta think even taxiing would be a big deal, jumping from one plane to the other.
Feel like it also has to do with not wanting to train pilots for A380s anymore, right? Especially when they're on their way out
The FAA would allow this on aircraft that have similar cockpit design as all Airbuses do but pilots have to get a minimum number of landings in each type on a consistent basis and that is virtually impossible to do in longhaul aircraft because of the augmented crew and few flights/month. US carriers don't operate small fleets of 4 aircraft as many carriers do so the cost/benefit is must smaller.
Can you give an example of what you are talking about? If an aircraft has a common type certificate, like the 757 and 767, you just need 3 landings, within 90 days, to remain current in both aircraft. That’s the idea behind a common type rating. Are you referring to someone having type ratings in two different aircraft, say the 737 and the 787?
Pilots at U.S. airlines get a monthly salary? Not according to United and American. Both offer a pay scale per flying hour. Pilot’s pay is based on the plane and the number of hours flown during each bid period.
pilots at pretty much all airlines get a minimum guarantee which is the minimum amount of credited hours that they must be rostered to fly/have per month. This essentially forms a base salary for the pilots because it'll never go below that due to pay protection rules.
He was specifically saying ETIHAD PILOTS get paid a monthly salary, UNLIKE US pilots
Also, Ben, whatever became of Janesis/Wong Chin off of Singapore Airlines? I know your paths crossed a few times after you met her on that 2012 SIN-NRT SQ flight, but I'd be keen to know how she's getting on now if you are still in touch. Hard to believe that flight was 12 years ago...and it would be fascinating to see if anyone else on here these days remembers that era of the blog. 2012 to 2015 really was a fascinating time for you.
Hi Ben,
Out of interest, do you know what hotel EY uses at Heathrow? Is it a good one? Going back the best part of a decade, I remember that crazy trip you went on in late 2014/early 2015 as you tried to catch the EY A380 inaugural, and QR A350 inaugural, and I remember (I think you stayed at most of the LHR hotels during that trip!) you noting that QR Pilots used the...
Hi Ben,
Out of interest, do you know what hotel EY uses at Heathrow? Is it a good one? Going back the best part of a decade, I remember that crazy trip you went on in late 2014/early 2015 as you tried to catch the EY A380 inaugural, and QR A350 inaugural, and I remember (I think you stayed at most of the LHR hotels during that trip!) you noting that QR Pilots used the LHR Sheraton Skyline at the time, and how amusing it was overhearing the pilots, who all flew different planes given the massive range of aircraft that QR flew to LHR at the time - particularly during the sound testing of the A350. Didn't you try to get on that mystery A350 flight, but ended up rebooking on EY's 777 First? Have you had any similar experiences with Etihad pilots at hotels at LHR?
Crew hotel, celebrity, or any high profile workers' hotel info should never be requested or posted.
Not cool to ask nor advertise the location of crew hotels.
“With mixed fleet flying, will pilots get paid more when flying an A380 than an A320, or will there just be a consistent scale somewhere in the middle?”
I think you meant A350 rather A320?
@ Auspointer -- Fixed, thanks!