New Ridesharing Model? Airline Diverts International Flight To Drop Pilot At Work

Reader Nick emailed to share an experience he had on yesterday’s Virgin Atlantic flight from London to Boston. There are lots of reasons for flights to be delayed and diverted, but this is one of the most unusual I’ve heard.

Yesterday’s flight VS11 from London to Boston made a stop in Manchester in order to drop off a pilot who needed to work a different flight. At check-in, passengers were given a letter outlining the delay, so clearly this was decided on in advance. Per the letter:

Your flight to Boston will be operating via Manchester today. In order for us to ensure our customers are able to fly from Manchester to New York today, we need to fly one of our pilots to Manchester. We have looked at other options to achieve this, but this is the only option available to use. You will remain on board the aircraft during our short stop in Manchester Airport. I apologise for any inconvenience and disruption this may cause to your journey.

Here’s the flight status for yesterday’s flight from London to Boston, which reflects the Manchester diversion, and the 1hr36min delay it caused:

Meanwhile the Manchester to New York flight that the pilot needed to work was delayed by several hours. It was scheduled to depart at 1:40PM, but only ended up departing at 7:12PM, so it was delayed by 5hr32min. Here’s the status on that:

Now, I’m sure a lot of thought was put into this decision, because diverting a plane isn’t cheap. This no doubt cost them thousands and thousands of pounds.

At the same time, what am I missing here? I get that they may not have had any 787 reserve pilots available in Manchester, so they needed to get one from London. But we’re talking about a distance of 150 miles, a market that has a good number of flights, and that has trains running between the two cities with a travel time of two hours. While BA doesn’t have a ton of flights in the market, they had a couple of flights from Heathrow to Manchester between the time the Manchester to New York flight was delayed, and when the flight ended up leaving.

Like I said, I’m sure Virgin Atlantic had their reasons, I just find this strange. Was the issue really that they couldn’t get a pilot any form of transportation to Manchester, or rather that there’s something in the pilot contract that ruled out the other options (ie, train travel is not an acceptable way of positioning pilots, a pilot needs a flat bed business class seat if they’re deadheading and having to operate a longhaul flight same day, etc.).

Anyone have any guesses?

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Arno Guest

This was the reason, Pilot got ill, there was major disrubtion on Virgin Trains to Manchester. Plus motorway chaos up M6 to Manchester. BA flights to Manchester from London were full up. http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/virgin-atlantic-flights-heathrow-boston-diversion-manchester-sick-pilot-boeing-787-a7954531.html

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Danny Guest

Whilst there is a modicum of reasoned speculation on here, the only reason for this action would be flight duty time limitations which are a flight safety issue. Virgin have a pilot base at Manchester but if they did not have enough pilots available on standby, then they would need to position a pilot up from London. Normally, a pilot would be positioned up with BA the day before. However, a flight to New York falls comfortably within the flight duty time limitations with enough to spare if they can get a pilot up to Manchester with little advance notice. The pilots flight duty time limitation starts from one hour before the scheduled departure time of the flight to Manchester. The clock is ticking from that moment. If there are no charter aircraft available at very short notice and the schedules of other companies flights are restricting (also consider the transfer times between the flights, baggage collection etc.) then there appears to have been no other option. Talking about getting a train or road transport does not even enter the equation, especially when considering the abysmal infrastructure problems here in the U.K., on a Friday. In order not to delay the Manchester to New York flight beyond what was reasonably possible, they tried their best to get a pilot to operate the flight. The flight duty time limitations are purely a safety function and cannot be 'bent' to suit the commercial operation. The pilot who agreed to operate this duty had probably already agreed to go beyond their labour agreements and everyone concerned was probably doing their best to keep the show on the road for the Virgin customers. It was unusual and probably very expensive for the company. However, it is not unprecedented and goes to show the resourcefulness of the employees who are doing their best for the company and ultimately, the customers. There will always be some customers who are disadvantaged by actions like this and will rightfully be angry and/or upset. However, in terms of the big picture, the main aim is to get the passengers from A to B as safely as possible.

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Anastasia Member

@Bill, while I agree with you, we saw what happened the last time an airline needed to get a pilot somewhere to operate a flight....Seriously, though, I'm surprised VS doesn't have some kind of interline agreement or couldn't buy the guy a flight on another airline. Surely that'd be cheaper?

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Bill Guest

It sounds strange but some of the comments point out there were issues with trains & terrorist attacks/traffic etc. I'm sure there was a contract issue thrown in there as well. I'm guessing that the situation escalating to this point is very rare. If it was a common occurrence then I think they would have a small plane on standby to shuttle crew, but it sounds like this may have been an exceptional circumstance and not an ongoing problem. Why the pilot wasn't put on one of the other flights is a head scratcher. You would think on such a short hop the pilot could handle an economy seat and one could be freed up by offering compensation to passengers. Diverting an entire flight seems quite absurd and I wonder if anyone missed connections as a result.

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Vandal Guest

This why Virgin was going bankrupt and sold to a US carrier.

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