PSA: It’s Not Worth Choking Someone Over Seat Recline

While airlines are giving passengers better ways to amuse themselves during flights (by adding inflight entertainment, Wi-Fi, etc.), they’re also constantly shrinking the amount of space in economy. Whether it’s reducing seat pitch or seat width, the airlines are doing everything they can to squeeze as many passengers as possible in the cabin.

Rather than creating a sense of community and “we’re in this together,” it instead seems to bring out the worst in people… at least sometimes.

Last night, a Southwest Airlines flight from Los Angeles to San Francisco returned to Los Angeles after a man allegedly tried to choke a woman after she tried to recline her seat.

Via NBC News:

Southwest would not confirm that a choking incident was involved but said “flight #2010 from LAX to San Francisco International airport returned to Los Angeles to allow police access to the cabin because of a rapidly escalating situation involving passengers who were not traveling together.”

“Evidently we’ve got two passengers who are in a physical altercation so we need to get turned around and get back to LAX,” the pilot of the plane told Air Traffic Control before landing safely in Los Angeles.

The flight ended up getting canceled, though apparently the passengers made it to San Francisco about five hours late in the end — ouch!

Southwest-Delay

Here’s the NBC News story on the situation:

More than anything I love the stock footage they use of an A380 to explain the situation… hah!

Seriously, it amazes me that passengers think getting in any sort of an altercation on a plane will end well. I’ve often shared my approach to reclining seats in economy, which is as follows:

  • Reclining your seat is a right — after all, the “recline” button is at your seat, and not the seat behind you
  • That being said, like everything else in life, it’s nice to be courteous — if you’re going to recline your seat back all the way, it’s polite to at least make eye contact with the person behind you, or ideally even ask them for permission
  • In the event the situation escalates, call a flight attendant immediately, or just give in — it’s not worth causing a flight diversion over a few degrees of recline

Bottom line

It’s not worth trying to choke someone over seat recline. While I do think seat recline is a right and not a privilege, it’s not something that’s worth getting in a fight over, if you ask me.

Where do you stand on seat recline — is it a right or a privilege?

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Matt Guest

Worst scenario. Transoceanic or coast to coast flight. The person behind you in economy is taller than 5'10. You recline and they start pushing your seat back without as much as a word. Happened to me before. Stressful situation because both people wanted to be comfortable. Would have been better if the person behind would have said something along the lines of "you are crushing me or could you put your seat up a bit". We could have come to some middle ground. Should I check before reclining? Yes. Now, I check out the passenger behind me even before the flight start.

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Sam Ward Guest

"@Alex that is just ridiculous. You fly economy even though you have a problem with tight spaces? Then you expect someone else to be uncomfortable to accomodate your problems? The sense of entitlement some people have is just amazing." The hypocrisy, it burns. "What do you do if the person reclines their seat in spite of your “firm” request? Choke them?" People can not recline their seat through my knees. That is not a request. That a physical fact. If someone cannot accept this fact and repeatedly tries slamming their chair into my knees, I will use force to stop them.

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Joe New Member

People should NOT recline their seat if someone is behind them unless they ask and get their permission. Rudeness is taking away from someone else their limited space. Just flew from PHL to PHX on US plane (now AA) and had window. Person in front wanted to take all my area, and the guy next to me in the middle seat was about 6'4", and taking myspace because of his size. This was rude and it was a very unpleasant flight. While I could have leaned my seat back, which I didn't because the person behind me would have the same type problem. Ever think about what the last seat in the coach cabin gets to do when they can't recline? REMOVE the button. It is not a right, but an abuse of limited space. The airlines are to blame for this mess.

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tara Guest

You should be guaranteed the space advertised on the airlines' web site without being forced to recline.

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George Guest

Yes, it is your right to recline your seat, as it is your right to let wind in public, for example, does it inconvenience the people around you? Yes it does. So before doing that, think. I am usually ok with a little bit of recline, but fully back, I don't get it. And no, reclining my seat as answer to the person in the front reclining theirs is not an answer. If we were all thinking like that (thank god we don't) this would create a domino effect all the way to the back of the plane, just because there is a selfish person in 10C. Then, I don't really feel like being in recline all the time, or being essentially ordered to recline by the person in front of me because they did so. Personally I wouldn't want to inconvenience the person behind me, because that is what I consider the seat recline to be. "Oh gee, I have too much space in front of me, do you mind reclining your seat right into my kneecaps, please?" Bottom line is this: Your comfort comes at the expense of the person behind you.

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