Qantas Introduces Bid Now Upgrades — Good Idea?

Qantas’ Frequent Flyer program is one of the least lucrative out there, in my opinion. Usually I don’t even bother mentioning when they change their program, since even a positive change will only move the program from terrible to horrible. 😉

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That being said, Qantas is introducing an innovative upgrade option, and I’m curious to hear what you guys think about it. I’m not sure whether I like it or not, but it’s certainly interesting.

It’s common for airlines to want to generate as much incremental revenue as possible, especially given how “perishable” goods in the airline industry are. One of the ways they’ve been doing that is by selling last minute cash upgrades. Different airlines have different ways of doing it — some only sell them at the airport, some at online check-in, some invite select passengers by email, or some let you bid on upgrades in advance. But those last minute upgrades are almost always for cash.

Qantas is introducing new “Bid Now” Upgrades, described as follows:

We’ve launched another way to upgrade. It’s called Bid Now Upgrades and it simply gives you another opportunity to choose the way you fly.

Bid Now Upgrades is available by invitation only for selected Qantas flights. If you receive a Bid Now Upgrade invitation, you have the opportunity to make an upgrade offer to a more premium cabin using a combination of Qantas Points and money if you are a Qantas Frequent Flyer, or money only if you are not a Qantas Frequent Flyer.

And here’s the process explained in an infographic:

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What makes this interesting is that Qantas already lets you use miles to upgrade, but is now letting you basically “name your own price.” These cash & miles upgrades will clear after Classic Upgrade Rewards, so there shouldn’t be an impact on those types of upgrades. At least that’s what they say as of now, though we’ve frequently seen situations where airlines eventually prioritize cash upgrades over mileage-supported upgrades.

Anyway, this certainly has the potential to set an interesting precedent. Obviously we don’t know the formula Qantas is using here in terms of what cost they’re willing to upgrade at, but it does make you wonder how much they’re valuing their own miles at. In other words, would they rather accept an upgrade offer of 10,000 miles plus $200, or an upgrade offer of 20,000 miles plus $100.

Basically they’re letting each consumer individually decide how much they value cash vs. miles, which is part of what makes this so interesting.

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It’s ironic that airlines are offering more ways to upgrade with cash last minute as they continue to hold back more and more upgrade space until shortly before departure. It’s one thing if they were clearing upgrades in advance, but that’s pretty rare nowadays, and instead, you often only clear at the gate.

What do you think of Qantas’ Bid Now Upgrades scheme, and would you like to see other airlines adopt it?

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Renee Guest

I just upgraded, rookie mistake..when they say all pax on booking they dont mean both people you booked for, they just mean you..singular, so now I have an upgraded ticket that will cost me more to cancel and downgrade and I dont get to travel with the person Im travelling with. *eye roll.

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Sean Guest

The Qantas Frequent Flyer is pretty horrible in comparison to AAdvantage. Redemption is awful on it's own metal and oneworld partners with the number of miles required are so poor and also the seat availability even for Y. Including the fact that they don't give us the most direct flight for seat availability redemption which means they want you to spend more points on redemption. E.g. they can offer a direct flight from SYD to SIN but they will display SYD - MEL - SIN so you could spend more points. They also don't have much integration with oneworld partner airlines online to avoid calling their customer service and then charge booking fee for a function they can't provide for self serve customers. I could go on, but this is the extent of my rant about their program. There's also not many other airlines that we can join where we can earn more miles on the ground. Hence, we're stuck with using Qantas Frequent Flyer program and Virgin Australia's Velocity.

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Dan Guest

@flying_foxy That high earn is not limited to QF though. I have an Australian Amex (Platinum Reserve) which earns me up to 3 Membership Rewards per dollar spent, which can be transferred to 9 different airline programs. Just to use the example of a SYD-LAX oneway in Business: Qantas - 128000 points, for which you need to spend at least $42,666 on your Amex, plus close to $1,000 in fees and taxes, and a Qantas website which will charge you the business class points but route you via BNE or MEL, with the MEL-LAX or BNE-LAX leg in Economy or Premium Economy Velocity - 94,000 points, for which you need to spend at least $31,333 on your Amex (or less with the transfer bonuses Velocity sometimes offers), plus fees and taxes of about $150, and much better availability than Qantas. I have status with both, but my engagement with Qantas is plummeting because it is just less brilliant than other options.

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flying_foxy Guest

@Dan I absolutely understand what you're saying... but whilst I'm in a minority, as an Amex Centurion cardholder who can easily earn 2 (if not 3 on some spend) QF points per dollar, compared to a US credit card earning AA points, QF points are VERY easy to earn. Sure, we can buy AA miles or send them from Amex via SPG, and yes redemption rates are lower per mile/point, but if you are Platinum QF and have a premium Australian CC, booking awards flights on QF metal is brilliant. Personally I use CX (also an Amex MR 1:1 transfer partner) to book OneWorld partner airline reward flights as their partner redemption rates are better than QF. But to be honest, loyalty programmes aren't built around those members who aren't actively engaged with them (and reaching higher tiers), so I understand why QF (nor any other airline) would really care as much as we'd like about less-frequent flying members and their desire to redeem points in premium cabins.

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Malc Guest

Julie's noted that Air New Zealand does this - in fact, I thought they were the first airline to auction upgrades. It's one reason why Qantas have introduced it - many Australians are already used to it from Air NZ. Seems quite a good approach to me. I've known a couple of people who won inexpensive upgrades.

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