Feuding Alaska Airlines Pilots Cause Flight Delay

While flight delays have become rather standards in this era, it’s not every day that a flight is delayed for this reason…

Alaska flight delayed because pilots couldn’t get along

This incident happened on Monday, July 18, 2022, and involves Alaska Airlines flight AS1080 from Washington (IAD) to San Francisco (SFO), which was operated by an Airbus A320. The flight had allegedly already been delayed by 90 minutes due to bad weather in the area, but then things got worse.

According to reports from passengers, the plane returned to the gate after pushing back, as the two pilots allegedly couldn’t get along. This is corroborated by multiple people who were on the flight, who all share a similar story on Twitter.

One of the pilots was even quite transparent with passengers about the issue, stating that this was “due to a failure to get along,” and that he was leaving the plane “in the interest of safety.”

Rather impressively, Alaska Airlines quickly found a replacement pilot, as a crew member who was scheduled to work a flight to Los Angeles was rostered onto this flight last minute. The flight was scheduled to land in San Francisco at 7:05PM, but ended up landing at 9:31PM, less than 2.5 hours behind schedule.

Arguably the passengers on the Los Angeles flight had it worse, as it took quite some time for them to find a replacement pilot. That flight was supposed to land at 8:05PM, but ended up landing at 10:38PM, so that was a delay of over 2.5 hours.

My take on this Alaska Airlines pilot incident

I find some of the commentary from passengers on this flight to be a bit dramatic:

  • “Very scary that your pilots could be this careless and flippant”
  • “I have never been more traumatized by a flight experience in all my years of flying domestic and international”

Quite to the contrary, I think it would have been extremely careless and flippant if the pilots flew together when they knew they couldn’t get along. How do you think their communication would have been in the event of an emergency?

It’s extremely rare for two pilots not to get along to the point that one walks off the plane, but when it happens, I’m happy it does. It’s much better to deal with that situation on the ground than in the air. Of course we don’t know the full backstory here, and if these two pilots had any history, if they just got into a heated debate over something, or what.

But the pilots surely know there are consequences and they’ll have to answer for this, so I’d consider their actions here to be anything but careless or flippant.

Alaska Airlines also deserves credit for how smoothly this situation was handled operationally, as there was a further delay of less than an hour beyond the weather delay. Unfortunately that came at the expense of the Los Angeles flight operating on-time.

Lastly, the one thing I’m not sure about is whether it was a good idea to communicate the actual nature of the situation to passengers. I know they say “honesty is the best policy,” but I’m not sure that accomplished much here?

I think this might be a situation where just announcing “something came up with one of the pilots, and we will find a replacement pilot as soon as possible” might be the better communication strategy.

Bottom line

An Alaska Airlines flight from Washington to San Francisco returned to the gate after it was decided that they couldn’t safely operate the flight together. While we don’t know the nature of the disagreement, it’s extremely rare to see this happen. Alaska Airlines managed to quickly find a replacement pilot, so the flight was only delayed by a further hour.

Obviously this kind of situation is unfortunate and frustrating for all aboard, but I commend the pilot walking off if he felt he couldn’t safely operate the plane with the other pilot. Aviation is so safe because of always erring on the side of caution, and this should be no exception.

What do you make of this Alaska Airlines incident?

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Alise Pfenning Guest

Shut up all you who are whining and complaining! One of the pilots was looking out for your safety while the other wanted to take off in dangerous weather. Be glad you were able to go home at all. There are too many air disasters to even fathom so i commend the pilot who was looking out for you and also for being transparent. Would you rather be lied to? So just shut up and count your blessings.

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Lynn Guest

Oh puhleez - 2 1/2 hrs late? I just spent the night wandering around JFK when two LAX- bound JetBlue flights were cancelled, the final one at midnight. Found my own standby the next morning and charged $75 for the privilege. I’d gladly take a 2.5 hr delay. I was in the airport 20 hrs total.

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jetjock64 Guest

In general, airline pilots are supposed to compartmentalize and get on with the job. On the other hand, there may be some provocations that could be classified as "existential" and reasonably lead to a cockpit abort: if a pilot wants to break a sacrosanct safety rule or so egregiously insults a pilot on their race or ethnicity, something central to your being, so that crew coordination is engangered, then I can see how the crewmember may call an audible. Anything less would not qualify.

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Lisa Guest

I wonder how many times a flight is delayed due to this type of situation but no one is ever told. I cannot stand not knowing why my flight is delayed and, of course, the attendants have no idea either. I think it was good that the pilots were transparent. My only scare in the end would have been if the remaining pilot was a douche and had some mental health problems. I think both pilots should have been replaced.

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RaflW Guest

I wonder if the disagreement was in regards to some safety question. Did the captain, for example, want to proceed with the departure after an extended ground hold that put them under dispatch fuel load? Just a hypothetical, and it would only matter if there was WX and a diversion at the end of the flight (ie they'd risk a fuel emergency too soon in a standard wx hold) . If they left the gate with correct fuel, it might even be totally legal to depart, but the F.O. says " we should go back and fuel up" and at that point it's clear they don't have agreement on trusting the command? I'm just trying to think of a non-personality level 'fight' that breaks crew compatibility.

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