A Delta flight attendant has been charged with attempted second degree murder, after repeatedly stabbing another flight attendant during a New Orleans layover. Gosh, this is awful.
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Layover gets violent for flight attendants in New Orleans
A 36-year-old Delta flight attendant has been arrested, following a spree of violence that happened during a layover in New Orleans early Monday morning. According to the New Orleans Police Department, the incident occurred around 3AM on Monday, November 25, 2024, in the downtown hotel where Delta crews stay on their layovers.
According to witnesses, several Delta crew members had gone out for the evening. When returning to the hotel, one of them began acting strange. The primary victim (a female) reportedly escorted the suspect (a male) to his room, at which point an argument began.
The suspect then started stabbing his colleague, twice in the arm and once in the neck. The victim then fled to another floor for help, with the suspect following her. A security guard then intervened, and was stabbed in the process as well.
At this point the police were called, and the suspect was taken into custody. He has been charged with attempted second degree murder, five counts of aggravated assault, and one count of aggravated battery. The victim was transported to the hospital — she’s reportedly in stable condition, but has serious injuries.
Another flight attendant who was at the same layover hotel that night reported being woken up shortly after 3AM by the fire alarm. This person poked their head out the door, and saw hotel security struggling to detain someone, with the suspect spraying a fire extinguisher at hotel security.
Minutes later, police showed up, and managed to arrest the suspect. This person also reports that the suspect had banged on several room doors, and that they could hear the victim screaming from a floor away. Other Delta employees who had a layover at the same hotel report hearing screaming, and opening their door, to find the victim laying in the hallway bleeding.
For what it’s worth, the suspect had arrived on Sunday night at around 8PM, on DL1450 from Atlanta. He was expected to depart on Monday afternoon at around 2PM, on DL409.
Here’s the internal statement that Delta has provided to employees:
We are working with local authorities on an incident that took place at our crew hotel in MSY on Sunday evening between two flight attendants. The situation is isolated and there are no safety concerns for crew members who are staying at the hotel. Delta has zero tolerance for violence against or among our people and will continue to fully cooperate with law enforcement officials. Out of respect to ongoing investigations, Delta cannot comment or confirm additional details.
What a terrible, tragic situation
First and foremost, my thoughts are with the two victims, and in particular the one who was stabbed three times. Here’s to hoping she’s able to make a quick and full recovery.
I think it’s also important to acknowledge how bad this must have been for all the other Delta employees who had a layover at the hotel. Many of them were woken up by the fire alarm and screaming, and saw their colleague on the floor bleeding. They then had to put on a happy face and go to work. I can’t even imagine how traumatic and difficult that must have been.
Obviously there are more questions than answers as of now. For example, was the one flight attendant traveling with a knife, or why did he have a knife on him during a layover? Also, was alcohol the only substance being used, or was he under the influence of something else?
Bottom line
A layover turned violent for some Delta flight attendants in New Orleans early Monday morning. Around 3AM, an argument escalated between two Delta flight attendants, and one ended up repeatedly stabbing the other, and then also stabbing a security guard who tried to help.
This man has now been charged with attempted second degree murder, aggravated assault, and aggravated battery. Like everyone, flight attendants are just human, and there are some bad apples out there. Here’s to hoping that the victims make a quick and full recovery, and that the other witnesses get the help they need to deal with what they witnessed.
Sounds like the guy was trying to get some and the female wasn't having it...
Amazing that you all sit here are argue about like you truly care about the injured FA. In a week, you will have forgotten this story. Just wish him or her the best and leave it be. Arguing is so childish..
Unfortunately delta it’s NOT doing the DOT report for any employees like others major corporations. Delta has employees with criminal records , mental issues and nobody do anything. It should be mandatory in all the airlines to do the background check every 6 months at least.
How do you know this information about Delta? Maybe someone dropped something the drink of the guy who assaulted the other flight attendant.
According to Rod Stewart. First cut is the deepest.
We have a winner for "Most Tasteless Comment on the Internet 2024." Shut it down.
And it was Cat Stevens, you moron.
Also knows as: Yusuf Islam
chick probably wouldn't let the dude borrow any eye liner.
Story about Delta:
Predictable Tim Dunn epic meltdown
Let’s hope he has family to keep him company tomorrow but I doubt it
His love in life is Delta and it’s unrequited
of course, asking that facts be presented and not hearsay is a meltdown in your eyes. For the rest of the civilized world, facts ARE the guiding principle for discussion.
and the reason why I have brought up Egypt is because I think Ben should apologize to the Egyptians in some form because I hate to see anyone cut off from a country because of their actions and even more so for a travel...
of course, asking that facts be presented and not hearsay is a meltdown in your eyes. For the rest of the civilized world, facts ARE the guiding principle for discussion.
and the reason why I have brought up Egypt is because I think Ben should apologize to the Egyptians in some form because I hate to see anyone cut off from a country because of their actions and even more so for a travel blogger.
Because he is a big boy, I hope he will do the right thing and ensure he has access to CAI airport and the great civilization that Egypt was in its day and still a very fascinating place on the planet.
You’re so weird.
So I guess you have no one tomorrow. Just you and the sky club.
It’s always amusing how no one ever agrees with you and your flawed logic yet you somehow believe everyone does
nowhere did I say that I come here to make friends or have people worship at what I share.
None of which changes that the facts here show that DL did offer help to FAs that were at the hotel and part of the chaos that took place
You’re the one wasting your life in the comment section.
You just have no perspective and you know just enough to sound dumb.
We don’t need that bad Publicity at Delta Airlines. I hope the victim makes a full recovery.
Tim Dunn at his best. Making stuff up like his ‘economize’ comment. And he is such a hypocrite. You are asking Lucky to not make stuff up but here you are with that stupid ‘economize’ comment without waiting for the facts. Now, someone just wrote about a blotter that is from the NOPD.
The blotter:
‘Gist:The victim and the suspect along with several other coworkers were returning to their hotel when the group noticed...
Tim Dunn at his best. Making stuff up like his ‘economize’ comment. And he is such a hypocrite. You are asking Lucky to not make stuff up but here you are with that stupid ‘economize’ comment without waiting for the facts. Now, someone just wrote about a blotter that is from the NOPD.
The blotter:
‘Gist:The victim and the suspect along with several other coworkers were returning to their hotel when the group noticed the suspect began acting strange. The victim escorted the suspect to his room at which time an argument ensued…’
were the two ever in each other's rooms? that is the gist of the comment.
Sorry it went over your head.
@ Tim That is my point. You are making assumptions yourself. All it says is the colleague escorted her colleague to the room. She may have done so for his safety because he was acting out. It never said she was in his room. You made that stupid assumption yourself.
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get a life, YouLoser.
Such a story would be new fodder for the New Orleans TV stations and TP newspaper.
Yet, have not heard anything yet. Will keep an eye & ear out of this one!!
I found it on the New Orleans Police Dept blotter: (note: withheld the suspect's name)
K-25084-24 34C-AGGRAVATED BATTERY BY CUTTING 11-25-2024 03:13 AM
10 blk Poydras St
Victim Information:2 Known Victims
Suspect Information:xxxxxxxxx, B/M, 10/9/88- Arrested
Gist:The victim and the suspect along with several other coworkers were returning to their hotel when the group noticed the suspect began acting strange. The victim escorted the suspect to his room at which time...
I found it on the New Orleans Police Dept blotter: (note: withheld the suspect's name)
K-25084-24 34C-AGGRAVATED BATTERY BY CUTTING 11-25-2024 03:13 AM
10 blk Poydras St
Victim Information:2 Known Victims
Suspect Information:xxxxxxxxx, B/M, 10/9/88- Arrested
Gist:The victim and the suspect along with several other coworkers were returning to their hotel when the group noticed the suspect began acting strange. The victim escorted the suspect to his room at which time an argument ensued and the suspect cut the victim twice on the arm and once to the neck. The victim relocated to another floor of the hotel to seek help, and the suspect followed her. A security guard attempted to intervene, and the suspect cut him on the thumb. The suspect was taken into custody a short time later and victim #1 was transported to a local hospital via EMS in stable condition.
Provided By: 880C (Sgt. S. Jackson)
I was verbally abused by a male flight attendant on a flight last summer. I reported it to delta & they didn't bother to acknowledge it. It could be the same deranged psychopath that stranded his coworker
Or maybe you did something???
you could say it was... a pointed affair
Knowing DL their PR department is in a freenzy. Like some have mentioned DL is trying to sweep this under the rug. DL does not like negative publicity and will move mountains to keep things as quiet as possible with hopes it just fades away and usually it works to their benefit!
first, how do you "know" DL's PR department?
Second, please provide proof - not hearsay which is what Ben passes along - that DL is sweeping this under the rug?
third, are you incapable of reading that someone who says they are a parent of a DL FA that was in the same hotel says that DL is offering assistance?
I realize this is the internet, you are posting under an anonymous user name, but...
first, how do you "know" DL's PR department?
Second, please provide proof - not hearsay which is what Ben passes along - that DL is sweeping this under the rug?
third, are you incapable of reading that someone who says they are a parent of a DL FA that was in the same hotel says that DL is offering assistance?
I realize this is the internet, you are posting under an anonymous user name, but you might take a look at what happened to Ben - who does write under his real name - after he ran his mouth off in Egypt.
Ben's world is smaller as a result.
Stick to facts and be careful about where you state your opinions.
You are free to have your opinion, including about Delta.
You aren't free to create your own facts or conveniently ignore the ones you don't like.
I actually have no confirmed details about this incident. I do know that Delta cabin crew, as cabin crew with all airlines in the United States are given extraordinary freedom to make accusations and bring police action against individuals that either do represent a threat or alternatively, are not the preferred racial or ethnic or sexual group of the cabin crew accuser. It is time for airlines including the high and mighty Delta airlines to...
I actually have no confirmed details about this incident. I do know that Delta cabin crew, as cabin crew with all airlines in the United States are given extraordinary freedom to make accusations and bring police action against individuals that either do represent a threat or alternatively, are not the preferred racial or ethnic or sexual group of the cabin crew accuser. It is time for airlines including the high and mighty Delta airlines to consider who they are hiring and if they should actually be given defacto police powers.
For the record I stood near the rear lav on a Delta flight in order to help my relatively large wife maneuver in and out of the lav. In that instance the Delta employed cabin crew took an issue with me demanded that I not stand there without listening to why I was there. She then absolutely tried to initiate an argument during the flight when I urged passengers to keep their elbows in to not get hit by the cart. I experienced real fear of her creating a police incident and to this day I always demand facts when the accuser is a flight attendant or cabin crew.
and the company will know about a police report filed against an employee by another employee.
And if the DA or grand jury refuses to bring charges, then there COULD be the basis for action against the person that filed the report.
None of that happened, here, though. The female employee was clearly physically hurt.
As for your onboard incident, plenty of people assist other people on aircraft, including to lavs. I don't know...
and the company will know about a police report filed against an employee by another employee.
And if the DA or grand jury refuses to bring charges, then there COULD be the basis for action against the person that filed the report.
None of that happened, here, though. The female employee was clearly physically hurt.
As for your onboard incident, plenty of people assist other people on aircraft, including to lavs. I don't know why your situation went south but it really has nothing to do with what happened between two employees on the ground when no passengers were involved.
You & Tim need stop posting. You're embarrassing yourselves in front of everyone.
TIM DUNN YOU REALLY ARE CLUELESS.
They are not hiring quality people anymore! Nobody wants the job!!!
What are they hiring these days at delta they better step it up on hiring process
Of course always does and I’m posting where ever I can
@Tim you should really take your own advice. You do not share facts either. You give your own opinions and speculations and you think that they’re facts.
Drop the issue with Ben and his experience in Egypt. Why do you keep brining it up? Just to embarrass Ben? Well, it ain’t working.
1. Ben is a big boy. He doesn't need you to defend him.
2. I do share facts... perhaps ones you and others don't like but they are facts.
3. It was complete hearsay for ANYONE to have suggested that DL wasn't providing assistance to the FAs involved in this situation. It took very little time before someone close enough to the situation (a family member of a DL FA at that hotel) to confirm it was wrong.
@Tim No. I am not defending Ben because he can take care of himself. You are the one who probably needs mental care.
All I was saying was that you are a hypocrite. You also make a lot of stupid assumptions. You are confusing your facts with your own opinions. Since you like to say stupid things about Ben and others then you man up and take the remarks people say about you. It...
@Tim No. I am not defending Ben because he can take care of himself. You are the one who probably needs mental care.
All I was saying was that you are a hypocrite. You also make a lot of stupid assumptions. You are confusing your facts with your own opinions. Since you like to say stupid things about Ben and others then you man up and take the remarks people say about you. It works both ways. You cannot ask Ben to stop/blacklist people who say whatever about you and not think it will blow up in your face because they can say whatever about you as well then. You can dish it but you can’t take it. Is that it?
where did I ever say that Ben should ban anyone OTHER THAN people who solely attack other users?
I am more than open to accept criticism and to debate perspectives that are different from mine... and I genuinely believe Ben is too.
To your point, I suppose it is possible that the altercation took place on the doorstep of the suspect's room and in the hall based on this statement from the police...
where did I ever say that Ben should ban anyone OTHER THAN people who solely attack other users?
I am more than open to accept criticism and to debate perspectives that are different from mine... and I genuinely believe Ben is too.
To your point, I suppose it is possible that the altercation took place on the doorstep of the suspect's room and in the hall based on this statement from the police report
"The victim escorted the suspect to his room at which time an argument ensued and the suspect cut the victim twice on the arm and once to the neck. "
so, yes, I do agree that it is conjecture to say w/ certainty that the event took place inside of a hotel room.
When the Horizon Airlines criminal pilot tried to kill a planeload of people after taking mushrooms, and then went on TV with his loving wife to discuss his "mental health challenges", I knew right then the general degradation of society had infected the ranks of in-flight airline crew and we'd be hearing more stories like that.
No company-wids email blast (or to inflight department) and the official company statement is only found on the inflight department page, not on the main company news page.
It does seem like Delta is trying to keep this quiet. I can't say I blame them for trying to avoid a rumor mill amongst the rank and file. However, a tragedy such as this is pertinent to all workgroups.
I am certain that managers...
No company-wids email blast (or to inflight department) and the official company statement is only found on the inflight department page, not on the main company news page.
It does seem like Delta is trying to keep this quiet. I can't say I blame them for trying to avoid a rumor mill amongst the rank and file. However, a tragedy such as this is pertinent to all workgroups.
I am certain that managers were proactive in offering counseling and time off for all the crews who had witnessed this horrific scene. It's one thing Delta is very good at.
Why would you need to notify gate agents in Anchorage or maintenance people in Salt Lake City about an isolated incident that is completely divorced from their lives?
It would be better to put out one message to all employees rather than have distorted messages as a message passed from person to person.
Must be very hard on the affected crew members; I sure hope the reports saying that DL is offering meaningful resources are more accurate than the ones saying they aren't doing much, but I won't hold my breath.
What do you think Delta should do?
"One of the reasons this story was brought to my attention is that many Delta flight attendants seem to think the airline is trying to sweep this under the rug, and isn’t providing the amount of support that witnesses (other Delta crew members) feel they may need. I think that’s a totally fair criticism."
This is a totally irresponsible statement. Unless the actual witnesses say they are not getting the support they need, why...
"One of the reasons this story was brought to my attention is that many Delta flight attendants seem to think the airline is trying to sweep this under the rug, and isn’t providing the amount of support that witnesses (other Delta crew members) feel they may need. I think that’s a totally fair criticism."
This is a totally irresponsible statement. Unless the actual witnesses say they are not getting the support they need, why would anyone assume otherwise. Many flight attendants (whatever that means) who were not involved are giving you information that you think is a "fair" criticism. Irresponsible.
Layovers are part of the job. Not a good time to be hanging out with your colleagues. Meals, exercise and rest should be the goal. Whatever led to this incident is tragic, and wishing a quick recovery for the victims.
Ignoring the stabbing, the reports paint a picture of them partying (presumably with alcohol) until 3 a.m. when at least one of the flight attendants had a 2 p.m. flight. That seems incredibly irresponsible.
There are rules in place that say how many hours you have to have between your drinking and your flying. All airlines are different.
FAA minimums are 8 hours. I'm not sure if Delta's are more strict.
They don't want to go so far as to keep someone from having a beer with dinner when they get in an 2000 and don't leave until 1400 the next day.
@Goforride
Having a beer or even two or three beers is one thing. Staying out until 3 a.m. is something else. Fatigue can be as dangerous too. It sounds like they were out for 6 or 6 1/2 hours. That's a lot of partying.
Oh FFS, if you're so worried about fatigue, how about all the extended duty days that crews work every single day without as much as a break to nourish their body with food without being stressed that management will discipline them for doing things that are human necessities? I'm talking 13+ hours on duty. This isn't even including the time needed before duty to prepare for the day. This also isn't including any time zone...
Oh FFS, if you're so worried about fatigue, how about all the extended duty days that crews work every single day without as much as a break to nourish their body with food without being stressed that management will discipline them for doing things that are human necessities? I'm talking 13+ hours on duty. This isn't even including the time needed before duty to prepare for the day. This also isn't including any time zone changes that also have an affect on the body and cause fatigue. If you're so worried about fatigue maybe you should contact Congress and tell them to do something about the ungodly duty days that crews often have to endure. And how about the international flights where the sleep circadian rhythm is completely off? Don't even go there about someone staying up until 3am, which could be totally normal for some people.
So why didn't they end that long, grueling, unpaid etc. day with rest? Instead, they had such a hard day that they went out and got hammered for 6 hours then got stabby.
They had plenty of time to conduct themselves like adults and prepare for their next day. They chose not to.
You have no idea what time they went out. Don’t speculate.
@FNT Delta Diamond
Ignoring the stabbing. Really ? Show some respect . Because Someone needs to serve you a pre departure beverage the next day with your complementary upgrade ? Get it yourself dude.
FA legal rest time is 8h behind doors as well as alcohol policy, so if you comeback at 3am leave 11h rest for a 2pm report. Don’t speculate what you don’t know.
Looks like we have the recreation police in our midst. If going out in New Orleans is a flight attendant's way to destress and unwind, then so be it. Yes, it is unfortunate that an employee was stabbed, but of the millions of flight attendant layovers that happen every year, this is definitely an outlier.
Layovers are apart of job however, it is their personal time. THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID ON THEIR LAYOVER. The only mandate for a layover is no drinking under 8 hours FAA rules. In my opinion and from friends I know going out with crew for drinks and food is the norm. It’s safer than doing it alone.
And what about marijuana or other recreational drugs? Look, alcohol and marijuana/drugs impact everyone differently. While we have no confirmation that alcohol or drugs were involved in this situation, it seems plausible that some alcohol was involved. If you want to party for 6 hours on a layover, fly as a passenger. When it comes to airline employees, it's safety first.
Dude you are just making sh* up. First you ASSUME they were out drinking for 6+ hours, and now they were doing drugs? FAs are subject to random alcohol and drug testing.
None of us including you know any specifics. Do you always lack critical thinking or are you just a troll?
I know the legalization of medical and recreational marijuana is causing all sorts of workplace issues. States and localities are struggling with how to handle a fireman or policeman using marijuana off-duty because, like alcohol, drug use impacts everyone differently. I stand my ground on this issue. Off-duty flight attendants can have a glass or two of wine or beer. But there's not justification to staying out to 3 am.
We don’t have any grey lines re: marijuana it’s not allowed. Full stop. As far as going out - you have zero idea what time zone their body is adjusted too. They could have started their day on the west coast, they could be a night owl. Regardless - they were back at the hotel 11 hours before their report time which is more than reasonable. “Flight crews can have a glass or two of...
We don’t have any grey lines re: marijuana it’s not allowed. Full stop. As far as going out - you have zero idea what time zone their body is adjusted too. They could have started their day on the west coast, they could be a night owl. Regardless - they were back at the hotel 11 hours before their report time which is more than reasonable. “Flight crews can have a glass or two of wine” get out. There are laws. We cannot show up to work inebriated, we cannot drink within 8 hours of report. Anything else is up to us to worry about and manage.
@FNT Delta Diamond. Ok old man. Just because you don't want to stay up until 3am doesn't mean that it's perfectly normal for other people to stay up until 3am. Next time you book that international flight make sure you book one that leaves bright and early so everyone makes they midnight curfew. You're so out of touch on everything, including the marijuana use. Every airline crew member and anyone that falls under DOT regulations...
@FNT Delta Diamond. Ok old man. Just because you don't want to stay up until 3am doesn't mean that it's perfectly normal for other people to stay up until 3am. Next time you book that international flight make sure you book one that leaves bright and early so everyone makes they midnight curfew. You're so out of touch on everything, including the marijuana use. Every airline crew member and anyone that falls under DOT regulations know that marijuana use isn't allowed, even if the state they are in allows it. Wake up and get a clue.
I will bet quite a lot on no one ever in history having stabbed someone as a result of being high on marijuana
Are you freaking kidding me. You don’t know what time they got to the hotel after deplaning and waiting for the shuttle. You have no idea what time they decided to meet and went out. You DO NOT know the situation either. And to insinuate drug or alcohol were involved. Do you EVER go have a beer or alcoholic beverage after work. Well when we are on layover we have every right to go out...
Are you freaking kidding me. You don’t know what time they got to the hotel after deplaning and waiting for the shuttle. You have no idea what time they decided to meet and went out. You DO NOT know the situation either. And to insinuate drug or alcohol were involved. Do you EVER go have a beer or alcoholic beverage after work. Well when we are on layover we have every right to go out as well. Please get your facts straight before making up bullsh$t rumors. We are random drug tested all the time. We were not there, so when/until you hear it directly from all involved do not spread lies.
You're embarrassing yourself.
You do realize that you are the one making up that the crew partied for 6+ hours?
We don't know the length of the layover, do we? I don't think you understand the nature of the a career in commercial aviation. It isn't any of our business what someone does on their off time during a trip.
The comment about Delta not supporting crew is false. My daughter is a Delta flight attendant and was on the floor that the initial attack took place. Her crew had an afternoon flight and Delta operations scrubbed them off the schedule and organized a councilor to meet with them. This is an extremely rare situation and is not representative of Delta at all, and Delta is effectively dealing with this tragedy. Let’s not jump to...
The comment about Delta not supporting crew is false. My daughter is a Delta flight attendant and was on the floor that the initial attack took place. Her crew had an afternoon flight and Delta operations scrubbed them off the schedule and organized a councilor to meet with them. This is an extremely rare situation and is not representative of Delta at all, and Delta is effectively dealing with this tragedy. Let’s not jump to conclusions or make grandiose and false statements as it undermines the effort to understand the situation.
It all depends who your manager is. My manager said she wouldn’t know if I would be pay protected or not, I can’t afford to lose a paycheck for experiencing something not my fault.
If your manager said "no, you aren't pay protected" then there would be a problem but based on the comment just above yours, DL has provided resources - as just about every company would in such a situation whether it be crime at Wal-Mart or any other business.
I do hope you are given the time and space to get support to process what happened
The disappointment is that Ben would take an assertion...
If your manager said "no, you aren't pay protected" then there would be a problem but based on the comment just above yours, DL has provided resources - as just about every company would in such a situation whether it be crime at Wal-Mart or any other business.
I do hope you are given the time and space to get support to process what happened
The disappointment is that Ben would take an assertion without investigation or validation of the facts only to have to be corrected by a family member that does know the truth.
I am happy that all you are thinking about is you paycheck when 3 people were stabbed, with a fellow FA on your crew in critical condition. Good job! unless you are paid for this comment to instigate... which I believe is the case since delta does not act like you... especially in NYC!
The victim was not in critical condition. Part of being a supportive employer and not adding insult to injury in a critical incident stress situation is not adding economic damage and stress on top of the incident the employee(s) had no power over. Pay protection is more than a reasonable expectation for workers who still have no legal contract or union protection.
Delta gives its crews separate rooms for a reason. The fact that the two decided to "economize" seems to be the root of the problem.
Not sure what other FAs are wanting DL to do, but it is reasonable to ask for counseling services and to be released from duty for a period of time.
Delta, like any company, cannot talk about personal details or about the investigation until law enforcement has released their report - which presumably becomes public for everyone.
Economize? What in the world are you talking about?
@ Tim Dunn
She was walking him to his room because she was being a friend to a crew member who
needed help - where anywhere does it say they were “economizing” by sharing a room? Don’t make stuff up.
sorry. but if he went in the room, it was a step too far.
And you don't get into an argument just walking someone to their room
Dude are you serious, where the heck did you read they were sharing a room. God you people don’t know what the fU$k you are talking about.
What was the ethnicity of the suspect? I need some data points
@jim:
From one news outlet: white male, hispanic female.
@Justin Why are you lying? According to “recent booking” website, he is a black male. Google Joshua Smith and recent bookings, and it’s right there. It’s amazing how people hate reality, and the consequences of NOT hiring based on merit, and MERIT only.
@Harold,
If hiring was done based purely on merit, lots of people who are hired simply because of their skin colour or who they know would not be hired. Be careful what you wish for.
Makes absolutely no sense. I do wish for flight crew to be hired on merit, not on DEI. DEI will DIE under this next administration.
DEI will die to be replaced with continuing cronyism, nepotism, entitlement and bigotry. But that's all right with you folks, right. After all, it removes having most of you having to compete.
I think people really misunderstand DEI, its not just based on hiring someone based of their skin colour as people stupidly misunderstand! You need to take a look at what it actually is, which is expanding the pool of candidates to include WELL QUALIFIED people of all races and not just one race that was predominant in the work place in the past! Its about going to places where hiring/talent companies would not have gone...
I think people really misunderstand DEI, its not just based on hiring someone based of their skin colour as people stupidly misunderstand! You need to take a look at what it actually is, which is expanding the pool of candidates to include WELL QUALIFIED people of all races and not just one race that was predominant in the work place in the past! Its about going to places where hiring/talent companies would not have gone in the past to pick out TOP TALENT and hire them based off merit, and not just pick any Tom Dick or Harry based on his/her skin colour! I think people do not understand this basis of DEI! And apparently DEI is only brought up when a person of non-caucasian skin colour makes a mistake, but if you look at the stats, the amount of caucasian people that make mistakes/causes problems/instigates violence clearly outweighs this, so why is it only a problem when a person of colour does something wrong. This is where the systemic issues in the USA comes into play
It was not Hispanic female , it was a petite slIm flight attendant , last name comes across as Thai. She was not involved with her boss (the criminal was her leader flight attendant), she just tried to help him to the room because he was drunk.
Why? Hoping that you can further justify the stereotypes you hold in your mind?
What does the ethnicity have to do with this? People of all races can be culpable of violence such as this and is not limited to one specific race.
If it really is true that Delta is not supporting its employees as much as possible then it would be really sad.
Regardless of the horrific stabbing incident, flight crew partying until 3 a.m. when they have a 2 p.m. flight is irresponsible. As my grandmother used to say, nothing good happens after 10 p.m.
Plenty good happens after 10pm. Maybe not on a school night though.
That's 11 hours... Would it also be unacceptable for them to have dinner until 8pm if they had a flight at 7am?
At least one of them landed at 8 pm. Assuming they were at the hotel by 9 or 9:30 p.m., that's between 6 and 6 1/2 hours of (presumably) drinking. Drinking 11 hours before a flight is certainly allowed, but just because it's allowed doesn't make it acceptable or responsible. Not only does alcohol impact everyone differently, but fatigue is also a major problem. Burning the midnight oil until 3 p.m. seems like a recipe for major problems.
I salute Ben’s commitment to post layout/ design.
Posting a photo of an empty hotel hallway!
You expect him to post a picture of the incident? The blood? The FA running down the hallway screaming? The police arresting the stabber? The victim in the ambulance? What picture exactly would satisfy you?
When someone says they "salute" something, it means they respect it. Never In Doubt is complimenting the choice of photo... Calm down, JustInDev.
Is this still a miles and points blog, or is Gary now writing it?
@ bo Then, just don’t read the article if you have an issue with it.
How would he know if he had a problem with the article if he didn’t read it?
As expected from the world's most premium airline.
Thoughts and prayers to the victim.
Absolutely correct TD, the most “Premium” airline which did not make it into the World’s Top Twenty ranking.