Yesterday I covered a bizarre story about a family being denied boarding on an Alaska Airlines flight, because the carrier’s system had the wrong visa requirements (which is embarrassing, but let’s ignore that for a moment). Then after being downgraded on the next flight, they ended up being removed at the request of the flight attendant. I won’t recap the whole thing, so please read that post first.
I’d like to provide an update on this situation, as we have both an eyewitness report and a report from a pilot on a subsequent flight, and I think this perfectly sums up everything that’s wrong with some employees at carriers in the United States, where they just completely lack the ability to deescalate a situation, and ego gets in the way of performing their job functions.
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An Alaska flight attendant’s disappointing power trip
As I explained yesterday, a family of four had first class tickets on Alaska. They were then rebooked because they were denied boarding due to a system glitch, and were downgraded. When they tried to board that flight, they were told they couldn’t take their assigned seats, because someone with an Alaska badge reportedly claimed that the flight attendant had saved the entire row for her. This is ridiculous on so many levels.
When he expressed his frustration and asked for the name of both employees, the flight attendant responded by having him removed from the flight. As I mentioned yesterday, Christophe is a long time reader, and he has always struck me as being level headed, so I was inclined to believe him. That’s why I think it’s interesting to cover the updates here.
First of all, someone left the following comment on that post, explaining that he was also on the flight, and talks about how good of a job the passenger did maintaining his composure:
I was on the flight from Missoula, it was a crap show. Alaska wasted about an hour of our time just sitting on board, trying to figure it out. They made no announcements, and acted like nothing happened when it was over. The guy was obviously upset and did a great job keeping his composure. I feel bad for the kids who had their soccer team jerseys on and were ready to go.
But here’s the more interesting point. There’s a Reddit thread about this situation (based on my blog post), and one comment caught my attention. As I mentioned, after the second denied boarding, Alaska prepared to rebook the family a third time, but then Christophe just decided not to gamble with the same thing happening again, and instead, he just booked another ticket on Delta.
Well, the person who claims to be the first officer on the next flight from Missoula (MSO) to Seattle (SEA) wrote the following on Reddit:
Dang, I was the FO of the flight they were supposed to be rebooked on before they decided to take Delta. We were warned about their experience and were prepared to try to make things as pleasant as possible for them. We were told the passengers weren’t aggressive or anything, but there was a “clash of personalities” with the FA and them on the previous flight

Some flight attendants really need to be reined in
I have a lot of respect for flight attendants at large, and I think a vast majority of them do their best, take care of customers, etc. However, the number of flight attendants who go on baseless power trips seems to be unique to the United States.
Passengers should be removed from a flight if they pose a threat to the safety of the flight, not because your personalities don’t necessarily jive. Accepting a passenger onto a flight isn’t like going on a date with them — your job is to just make sure you can transport them a distance of 389 miles without anything going wrong. That’s it. Nothing more.
Everything about this just strikes me as being completely unreasonable:
- Christophe was traveling with his wife and two young children, and wasn’t drunk or aggressive; that’s not really the profile of someone who is most likely to cause a disturbance
- Just look at the actual eyewitness report from another passenger, which confirms he wasn’t aggressive, but instead, was just (understandably) upset, as anyone would be
- If Alaska was immediately willing to rebook them on the next available flight, then it’s pretty clear the airline didn’t actually have concerns about the safety of transporting him
- The person who claims to be the first officer on the subsequent flight they were rebooked on even specifically noted how he wasn’t aggressive, but instead, there was a clash of personalities
- Also, just as a human, how could the flight attendant do this to the man’s young kids, as I can only imagine how rough their travel day was
I just don’t understand why airlines tolerate this kind of behavior. It feels like sometimes flight attendants are coddled in the same way I have to coddle our three-year-old. Like yesterday morning at a breakfast buffet, we made him a waffle (at the make-your-own waffle station), and we put Nutella in a little dish next to it. He insisted he didn’t want one Nutella dish, but he wanted two. I told him he could have a second one once he finished the first one. A 15-minute standoff ensued.
But the thing is, he’s three years old. Presumably this flight attendant has a few years on him, even if she’s acting similarly.

Bottom line
A family had a pretty awful experience flying with Alaska Airlines. They were denied boarding from one flight due to a system glitch. They were downgraded on the next flight, only to then be told they couldn’t take their assigned seats, because an Alaska employee was “reserving” those seats.
When the father asked for the names of the employees so he could report them, the response was to kick the family off the flight. Everything about this narrative struck me as being accurate, given that Christophe is a level headed guy.
That’s now basically confirmed — another passenger confirms he didn’t lose his cool, and someone who claims to be the pilot on the subsequent flight had even been warned by the company to take care of him, and that he wasn’t aggressive, but instead, personalities just clashed.
I hope the flight attendant involved gets a good talking to, because this isn’t how customers should be treated, and it doesn’t at all align with what I consider the Alaska Airlines ethos to be.
What do you make of this situation, based on these reports?
One word: unions
How do we "know" this was the real FO....and not another commenter saying they were.
Remember, just because they claim doesnt mean they are until verified.....this whole situation doesnt make much sense here and i think this is on the realm of fake outrage to amplify thier greivance.
The airlines are afraid to go agains the unions, which protect and serve flight attendants that think the job of the flight attendant is to sit in a jump seat and complain about crew scheduling, crew hotels and not making enough money.
While they are in the minority they are found in all US based airlines.
Like you said, I’ve got tons of respect for FAs. But sometimes, it does feel like some of them are actively miserable and treat all customers as an inconvenience.
I’m glad you’re writing more about this and providing an update. Alaska (or most airlines really) won’t care until it goes public and their reputation is at stake.
Wow, incidents like these are thankfully rare, but, if this is what happened, it exposes Alaska, big-time. It proves the front-line crew knew there was zero safety threat under 49 U.S.C. § 44902. They weaponized "crew discretion" because a premium passenger dared to ask for names after an employee tried to inappropriately "reserve" an entire row.
Airlines rely entirely on your confusion and emotional exhaustion to screw you over in these moments. If you find...
Wow, incidents like these are thankfully rare, but, if this is what happened, it exposes Alaska, big-time. It proves the front-line crew knew there was zero safety threat under 49 U.S.C. § 44902. They weaponized "crew discretion" because a premium passenger dared to ask for names after an employee tried to inappropriately "reserve" an entire row.
Airlines rely entirely on your confusion and emotional exhaustion to screw you over in these moments. If you find yourself facing a corporate power trip, please consider:
1) Remain calm: Treat the interaction like a camera is rolling. Composure strips them of their only legal cover, retroactively labeling you a "safety threat."
2) Do not accept a quick refund: Accepting a pro-rata refund on the spot legally severs the contract and absolves them of whatever you have to spend to get to your destination.
3) Demand an Involuntary Reroute: Force a supervisor to look at interline partners or competitors to get you to your destination on their dime. If they refuse, document the refusal.
4) Document "Under Protest": Get names (clearly this family tried to do that!), write down timelines, and text/email the airline before you buy a competitor's ticket stating you are doing so under protest because they failed to perform.
5) Sue for Breach of Contract: Bypass regular customer service. File a DOT complaint to pull the internal logs, and head straight to Small Claims Court for full reimbursement of your consequential damages (the competitor's tickets and incidentals).
Many times, airlines do make it right at Step 3. But if they don’t, and you have to go to war, walk away. Ditch your points, burn your credits, and forget about brand loyalty. Treat modern air travel like the strict commodity it has become, in the US at least.
Friends, you know that I wish the US had actual robust consumer protections like in the UK, EU, and Canada, but even those have loopholes, like the AirHelp v. Austrian Airlines decision that strips transit passengers of EU261 protection if they start and end outside Europe (like, JFK-CDG-BKK on Air France). Until our laws catch up, your best weapon against an ego trip is a cool head and paper trail. You'll be late, but you won't lose more money than you need to. Keep fighting!
Ben, any update on reimbursement, compensation for this family? Like, "a good talking to" isn't enough, here. They deserve a full-recovery.
-OR- Simply read the name tag ? Duh .
The long list of things to do , and laws to be invoked , are a waste of effort and time .
So...who won the Nutella standoff?
@ DENDAVE -- Please don't ask. :-( We did come to a compromise, but he definitely got the better deal.
HA! I guess we have our answer. Maybe next time, Ben ;)
I can all but guarantee your 3 year old is better behaved in public than this FA
This is exactly why it is better to take a Jeep from Montana to Canada , thus avoiding Alaska .
This is the predictable endpoint of a system that lionizes flight attendants as safety warriors, and absolves them of needing to perform virtually any service or hospitality functions.
Matt ... Exactly so .
Agreed 200%, very well said
"hippopotamize" , rather than "lionize" .
Fellas, this is an outlier; you folks typically bash the workers, but most crews are professionals. Clearly, not here, sadly.