My Useless 30 Minute Airline Phone Call

It’s not often I get on the phone with airlines nowadays to deal with my own reservations. Technology is getting better, which means there are more website self service options… for the most part.

A few days ago I redeposited an award ticket between Los Angeles and New York, in American’s A321 first class. My plans had changed, so I no longer had a need to take the flight. Only the miles never redeposited, which in my experience should be an instant process for tickets on American’s own flights.

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So this morning — several days later — I decided to call up American to follow up about the redeposit. I called the Executive Platinum desk, and the agent said she’d have to get me over to AAdvantage customer service.

I got connected to an agent who sounded competent, though after giving her my AAdvantage number she said “oh you’re an Executive Platinum, would you like me to get you to an Executive Platinum AAdvantage agent?” I said “if you could help me that would be great.” A second later I got transferred over to an Executive Platinum agent. Alrighty then!

By the time I talked to the third agent I figured it would at least be a speedy process. I explained the situation, and I heard her typing in the background.

After about five minutes I said “is there a problem?” She mumbled something I couldn’t at all understand.

I figured I’d let her do her thing. Five minutes later I followed up again — “is the problem that you’re not able to find the reservation, is the problem with the redeposit itself, or…?”

She mumbled something again. Which I found so odd. It was as if she was speaking another language… maybe she was?

I let her do her thing, and a few minutes later followed up yet again. She responded again with mumbles.

Now in general:

  • If I get a bad agent I hang up and call again, though this agent just left me so puzzled that I didn’t know what to do. She wasn’t actively rude and wasn’t actively unhelpful, but she just wasn’t communicating at all. And frankly I was sort of curious how it would end, so couldn’t bring myself to actually hang up.
  • I was very tempted to say “sorry, I don’t know what you’re saying… can you speak in a way I can understand please, and tell me what the situation is?” But I didn’t want to be rude, so I didn’t.

Nearly 27 minutes into the phone call (I know this because I took a screenshot of my Google Voice at this point) I said “you see the transaction in my account where the miles were debited, right?”

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“No…”

“Just to clarify, are you looking at the correct AAdvantage account?

“Your AAdvantage number is ______, right?”

“Ummm… nope, that’s not my account.”

So I gave her my correct account information. All of which is very odd, since I entered my AAdvantage number during the phone prompt, and the previous (non-Executive Platinum) AAdvantage agent confirmed all my account details.

After looking at my account details she said “oh… well the miles should be redeposited automatically.”

“Is there no way you can manually redeposit them, since it has been several days? For me they’ve never redeposited if it doesn’t happen within a few days.”

“They will redeposit, don’t worry.”

At the end I said “well, thanks for your help… I just wish it hadn’t taken 30 minutes to get to this point.”

Bottom line

This was certainly an extreme case, though there’s no denying that the quality of the Executive Platinum desk has slipped considerably over the past several years, after the Tucson call center closed. Access to the Executive Platinum desk used to be one of the best perks of the status, though aside from shorter wait times, I’m not sure I see much advantage to it anymore.

Like I said, admittedly this was an extreme incident, though the fact that it took over 25 minutes for the agent to even realize she was looking at the wrong account blows my mind.

To fellow American Executive Platinum members, what has been your experience with their phone service lately?

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Pat Guest

Okay, I've been reading for several months about the problems people have experienced with AA CS. Now I'm going to chime in. I'm an AA Platinum right now after having been a US AIR Chairman for several years. Unfortunately, I only have another month to work with US and it makes me very sad. I recently flew LAX/SIN and upgraded using miles and money. No problems there. On the return I upgraded again using miles and money and when I got to LAX I got an automated email stating that 100,000 miles had been deducted from my account for this return flight. I immediately called AA Plat desk but was told I would have to speak with CS and they were only open until 5 PM CT. M-F. Amazes me that CS is limited to 7-5 CT M-F. Shouldn't it be 24/7/365? I'm in PT. When I did finally get to speak to someone there I was passed around three different times before I could speak to anyone who could actually help me. What I thought would be a very easy fix (because it clearly was a mistake for them to deduct the additional 75,000 points) and with US they would have had them redeposited immediately. AA needed to research and it would take 10 days. 10 days turned into 15. Each time I called was told "they were still researching" 15 turned into 20. It took almost a month to redeposit the missing miles. On the other hand, I've had awesome help from CS in scheduling a complex FF ticket with a very patient agent and supervisor. What I'm seeing with AA CS is that they are very ununiform in their helping elite desk passengers. I may be crazy but think everyone regardless of status should be given the same excellent CS.

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Jimjar New Member

EXPlat desk service has definitely declined. yesterday I was trying to do a sameday flight change, and although the agent seemed helpful, ultimately she was useless. At the end of the call she closed with "Thank you for calling US Air."

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Glenn T. Diamond

If you want real frustration call the Avianca call center! Many of their English-speaking agents have a totally unjustified confidence in their English speaking ability, and quickly decend into rapid-fire Spanglish jibberish. HUCA? Do you really have another spare hour or so?

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TXRRGUY Guest

Having to HUCA really shouldn't have to be an option. If so, then there are large systemic issues. So many CRM metrics these days measure call answer time, call duration, and number of calls handled. Quality seems to be the silent victim.

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A. S. Guest

@Lucky -- While I do believe that everything you said about the agent's lacking communication skills stands, you may have been guilty of the same thing. :) Surely, in the span of 30 minutes you could have found a way to extract some information from her without pissing her off (which I assume is something you were trying to avoid). Next time, try this: "Excuse me, ma'am, I have a bad connection on my end and I couldn't hear that last thing you said; do you mind repeating it, please?" Use your voice. ;)

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