Marriott Bonvoy Member Redeems 2.6 Million Points… Now Hotel Wants $17K

Yesterday I wrote about how the JW Marriott Los Cabos charges a $30 per night redemption fee for Bonvoy members. Well, here’s something on a whole different level — how would you feel about redeeming 2,596,000 Bonvoy points for a single stay, only to be asked to pay an extra $16,940 after confirming your reservation?

North Island Seychelles, Marriott’s most expensive hotel

A bit over a year ago, North Island Seychelles joined Marriott as a Luxury Collection property, and it’s even possible to redeem Bonvoy points at this resort.

Frankly I find the hotel’s participation in Marriott Bonvoy to be strange (given that paid rates are many thousands of dollars per night), though it sure is a unique opportunity for Bonvoy members. In addition to being able to earn points for stays here, you can also redeem Bonvoy points here, =at the rate of just under 400,000 Bonvoy points per night.

That doesn’t include the cost of a helicopter transfer, meals, or many activities, all of which are extra.

North Island Seychelles

A reader’s experience redeeming Bonvoy points

Over in the “Ask Lucky” forum, reader EyeOnThePoints shares his/her experience redeeming points at North Island, and it’s not pretty.

EyeOnThePoints went to Marriott’s website to book an award stay here, and locked in a one week stay in a two bedroom villa for 2,596,000 points (the below are just random dates that I pulled up on Marriott’s website to illustrate this).

As you can see below, this booked into a two bedroom villa, and even with four guests that was the price.

Well, at some point after booking, EyeOnThePoints got an email from the hotel, stating that an extra $16,940 would be due for the third and fourth guest in the villa. Apparently the hotel has decided that a redemption in a two bedroom villa should only be for two people, and the hotel wants an extra $1,210 per additional guest per night for the privilege of breathing the North Island’s fresh air.

Keep in mind that the hotel isn’t all inclusive, and the hotel will be making money on the additional guests, for food, transfers, activities, and more.

Despite that, Marriott continues to show the award cost to be the same whether you’re staying with two or four guests in the two bedroom villa.

In fairness, on paid rates there is indeed an extra charge for the two additional guests, but that’s only disclosed on the final page, rather than the initial search page. However, at least it’s disclosed, which clearly isn’t the case on an award stay.

For what it’s worth, there are lots of hotels that charge extra for additional guests when paying cash but not when redeeming points.

Upon reaching out to Marriott, the Bonvoy member was essentially told that the hotel has the right to do that, despite the fact that this wasn’t in any way disclosed during the booking process or in the email confirmation. After pushing back a case has been opened, but there has been no resolution yet.


North Island Seychelles

Marriott Bonvoy terms are explicit in this regard

I didn’t notice this at first, but View from the Wing left the following comment, which points out to an even greater extent how absurd this is:

I agree with you that any charges ought to be disclosed to the member up front. But let’s take a look at the Marriott Bonvoy terms and conditions, because surely a member can rely on *those*.

Extra person charges *are included* on Bonvoy redemptions. It’s right there in 3.2.e.

“3.2.e. When redeeming Points for an Award Redemption Stay, the Award Redemption Stay includes the cost of a single or double standard room at a Participating Property, room tax/service charge, and extra-person charges, if any.”

Now, 3.2.e has exceptions. 3.2.e.iii specifies FIVE hotels at which extra person charges are not included on redemption stays – that only the cost of two people are included, and charges “for the third, fourth, or more guests in the room is an additional fee and is not included in the Award Redemption as form of payment.”

Those five hotels are Al Maha, Westin Reserva Conchai, and 3 Sardinia properties (Cala di Volpe, Pitrizza, and Romazzino) when they are all-inclusive over the summer. North Island is not listed as a carveout.

This doesn’t even appear to be an oversight on Marriott’s part (which shouldn’t be the member’s problem) as North Island *does have* a carveout in the terms, where it is specifically listed as not having to honor ‘no blackouts’ on award redemptions.

To the extent that the terms govern the relationship between member and the program, this seems pretty clear. And that there’s even pushback here is emblematic of Marriott’s confused customer service problems, where their agents do not know the rules of the problem.

Bottom line

A Marriott Bonvoy member redeemed nearly 2.6 million Bonvoy points for a week-long stay on North Island, the world’s most expensive Bonvoy property. After confirming the reservation, the Bonvoy member was informed that there would be an extra charge of $16,940 for the third and fourth guest, in spite of the fact that this wasn’t at all disclosed during the booking process.

What poor form for both the hotel and Marriott to attempt to not honor this. It’s not like we’re talking about a $10 mistake rate here, we’re talking someone someone who confirmed a reservation that cost an exorbitant number of points, and now the hotel wants to charge even more.

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Lucy Carpenter Guest

It looks wonderful. But at a far scaled-down rate, I am having a problem recouping $2400 owed me by a horrible Marriott, the Residence inn Foggy Bottom DC - an over-charge by the very fat, grotesque GM for me calling DC inspectors on them. They had rat infestation and no AC in 100 degree Washington weather. And structural issues like the Surfside condo towers that collapsed. Marriott has not offered to cover any of this loss or the hardship and indignity of the stay..or of the GM locking me out when she learned of the Govt inspection. DC Govt fined and cited the Marriott and thanked me, a responder. And I am an Ambassador. (DC Strategic Group) Any thoughts? Wouldn't Arnie have had a cow? He was so into courtesy and RESPECT and cleanliness. But ESPECIALLY RESPECT.

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Quo Vadis? Diamond

I burned all my Marriott points and bailed on Bonvoy in 2019. It was quite evident Marriott was on the highway to meh even then, and nearly everything I've read re Marriott benefits and customer service since then has only reinforced my decision.

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BRR Guest

Of the hotels brands, the worst. Yet, you still keep promoting them through your articles. You must be well compensated. Do you really expect Marriott to deliver on points your are entitled to when you decide to cash in. No.... they will find a way to screw you. Say Bonvoy-age... and thanks for your loyalty!

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Lucy Guest

A similar thing happened to me when I booked St Regis Maldives before they were open. The reservation let me book for 3 people and didn't state any extra person fees. (There weren't any mention of extra person fees anywhere on the website.) About a month before the stay, I got an email from the hotel asking for arrival times, etc. and also mentioned $350 per night for the 3rd person. I believe it was before the merger, so it was Starwood. I escalated with SPG customer service, they also noted that there were no extra person fees in the confirmation and would talk to the hotel. The hotel pushed back. SPG customer relations said they couldn't really do anything about it even though they thought this was wrong of the hotel. Fortunately, the hotel ultimately decided not to charge the extra fee "upon exception."

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RC Guest

I got bonvoy’d at the Marriott in Mexico City last year. Clearly booked a discount special rate with my Marriott card. When I checked in I used my CSP reserve for damages. When I checked out I made the mistake of not getting a paper copy of the bill. Of course I didn’t get one sent to me and after several requests they sent me something like $150 more than what I “paid”. Long story short they said I didn’t pay for the hotel with my Marriott card and didn’t have it booked. (Well how did they know who I was when I showed up?!). I told them bill was wrong and didn’t even apply to me. I had left higher tips for staff than they had. All messed up. Marriott customer service was completely useless. They ended up refunding me only like $80 of the $150 and the hotels claim was i was refunded using the hotels “exchange rate”... when I booked I booked and paid and reserved in USD. Very shady and disappointing

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