How Not To Get Deported From China

An interesting story is circulating about two ladies from New Zealand who were deported from China after a “journey from hell.” I have trouble keeping up with immigration policies, and I travel nonstop. I don’t envy less frequent travelers who have to stay on top of this stuff.

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So what happened? Via the NZ Herald:

The friends had travelled to Istanbul to catch flights home to Auckland via Beijing where they planned to spend a 72-hour transit sightseeing in the city. But during the August 11 flight to China’s capital, the pair were surprised to hear an in-flight announcement that they would be making a “one-hour stopover” at Urumqi – a city of four million people in the autonomous region of Xinjiang, 3700km from Beijing.

When they got off the China Southern Airlines plane, their travel papers were scrutinised by immigration officers. They say they were told Urumqi issued only 24-hour visa exemptions – not 72-hour exemptions as Beijing does.

Ah, now this is actually very tricky, and something I had to think about for a few seconds before it made sense to me. China Southern operates a flight between Istanbul and Beijing which stops in Urumqi, China.

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When you book the flight from Istanbul to Beijing on China Southern’s website, it does make mention of the flight having “one stop,” though that’s all it says.

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However, if you click on the flight number you’ll see it indicates that the flight stops in Urumqi. It’s only natural to not think twice about that.

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The article notes that travel documents and boarding passes made no mention 0f the stopover. And this is where the issue comes into play. China offers a 72-hour transit without visa. As the name suggests, this allows you to transit select airports for 72 hours without needing a visa. The ladies figured they’d stop in Beijing for a couple of days, to break up their journey between Istanbul and Auckland.

The catch is that only select airports are eligible for the 72-hour transit without visa, and Urumqi isn’t among them:

Beijing Capital International Airport, Shanghai Pudong Airport, Hongqiao Airport, Guangzhou Baiyun Airport, Chengdu Shuangliu Airport and Chongqing Jiangbei International Airport,Shenyang Taoxian Internatioanl Airport, Dalian International Airport, and Xian Xianyang International Airport.

Since Urumqi was their first port of entry into China, they had to clear immigration there. However, that airport only allows a 24-hour transit without visa, rather than a 72-hour transit without visa. Even though they were connecting to Beijing, the transit without visa is based on the airport at which you enter the country.

As you might expect, what followed does indeed sound pretty hellish:

The friends then said they were escorted, with their luggage, to an immigration van, which drove them to a high-security “detention centre”, with armed guards and barbed wire, just outside the airport.

They were put in separate rooms.

“It was very scary … not a nice place at all. We were made to feel like prisoners,” Ms de Jong said.

Two hours later, they were ferried back to the airport and told the 10-hour flight back to Istanbul would cost them 300 ($530).

During their 11-hour ordeal, they were given no food or water.

When they asked for water, airport staff refused their request.

Once back in Istanbul, Ms de Jong and Ms Watson shelled out a further $4344.65 to get new flights to New Zealand.

Wow, wow, wow, that sounds terrible.

Bottom line

Ultimately having the right travel documents is the responsibility of the passenger. That being said:

  • It sounds to me like the passengers should have been denied boarding in Istanbul initially, as they weren’t eligible for a 72-hour transit without visa in Urumqi
  • That being said, this is a really nuanced situation, and a mistake almost anyone could make; when you’re booking a “direct” flight to Beijing and that’s all your boarding pass shows, it’s only natural to think that’s where you’ll be clearing immigration
  • Surely this mistake happens with some frequency, no?
  • China’s 72-hour transit without visa policy is sort of ridiculous, given that it varies by airport; that’s the equivalent of Los Angeles and New York having different immigration policies

But seriously, what an all around crappy situation. On one hand I tend to think immigration problems are the fault of the passenger, but this is something even an expert traveler could have screwed up. China Southern could certainly do a better job communicating immigration policies for flights like these, especially given how airport dependent China’s transit without visa policy is.

Who do you think is at fault in this situation — the travelers or the airline?

(Tip of the hat to Geoffrey)

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Stefano Guest

Hallo folks, i was denied just before last Chinese New Year 2016 by Qatar Airways in Paris to board its flight Paris-Doha-Shanghai because their French On Ground Crew was not aware about the 72h visa waiver policy first of all,i had to proof my claim by guiding them through the appropriate websites starting from Pudong Airport and CTS however it didn't help at all as i was just told by tha that without visa i am not allowed to board that flight, although i was well qualified as i was ready to leave Shanghai via Hong Kong (different exit destination) to Bali less then 72H after my planned arrived in Shanghai. At the end it cost me 3 days to reach Shanghai, while passing via HK, applying for a tourist visa and purchasing 3 new tickets, Paris-Doha-HK, HK SH by train, and SH HK Bali return, detailed complaint letter with proven evidences to QA Doha HQ didnt help neither to get any compensation from the airline, although Its Chinese Crew at SH QA Office admitted that i was right, however only the HQ in Doha can handle such cases and never admitted its mishandling nor provided a proper compensation until today and 11 months passed by already, any helpful and wise suggestion from your side would be highly appreciated, thank you very much indeed

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Mike Guest

Ironic because CZ is operated by the government thus making it a government entity. Furthermore, if they are to make claim it should be the website they purchased the tickets from because travel websites are obligated to provide layover info. I would sue the travel site, CZ in Turkey and Chinese immigration.

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David Guest

The kiwi ladies would never have made it. CZ doesn't fly PEK-AKL and they would have to transit through CAN. The 72-hour transit rule of China clearly states that you HAVE TO FLY CONFIRMED DIRECT INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS IN AND OUT OF THE TRANSIT CITY. Even if IST-PEK were a direct flight, they would still be detained at PEK due to lack of visas. Their itinerary involves a domestic flight!

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Isolafoc Guest

folks correct me if i am wrong i dont think CZ even offer non-stop flight from PEK-AKL. the routing may be IST-URC-PEK-CAN-AKL on CZ meaning two legs of domestic flights are on this itinerary

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Kalv Guest

If I'm Ben, I would keep my mouth shut on commenting the 72-hour transit without visa policy. Further, why is such policy ridiculous? They have to place extra people to work on these, and it would be a huge burden if you place a team in every point of entry (that's why they put in only in Beijing and Shanghai and a handful for major cities). Is that so hard to understand? Now who's being ridiculous? Does New York or LA or any US cities allow any similar policies? I would say 100% fault of the travelers on their own. They would have known of the situation had they been more careful to notice the information of their flight. The mindset of modern people nowadays: blame everything else but not themselves.

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