Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts: What Really Sets The Brand Apart?

Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts: What Really Sets The Brand Apart?

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In recent times, I’ve been writing a series about some of the world’s small luxury hotel groups, including AirellesBVLGARICheval Blanc, OetkerRitz-Carlton Reserve, etc.

In this post, I’d like to talk broadly about Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts. Okay, Four Seasons is far from a small, boutique hotel group, but instead, is probably the world’s most well known luxury hotel brand. I’d like to talk about that in a bit more detail in this post, because I always find online discussion about Four Seasons properties to be interesting, and rather polarizing.

Let’s start with a bit of background, and then I’ll share what I think sets Four Seasons apart from the competition, as well as what I don’t consider the Four Seasons brand to be…

Basics & background of the Four Seasons brand

Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts was founded in 1960 by Canadian businessman Isadore Sharp. I’d say that he might be one of the two most transformational people we’ve ever seen in the hospitality industry, along with Aman founder Adrian Zecha (who is no longer associated with Aman, but does have some new ventures).

The whole Four Seasons brand started when Sharp, who was an architect at the time, designed a motel for a family friend. When it proved successful, he was motivated to get into the industry, and found investors so that he could create his own hotel. That ultimately resulted in the opening of the Four Seasons Motor Hotel in 1961.

The first Four Seasons property opened in 1961

While I have utmost respect for Aman’s founder thanks to his visionary approach to seeking out properties and creating a certain vision for hospitality, Sharp has run a company known around the world for exceptional customer service and hospitality. If you have the time, Sharp’s book, “Four Seasons: The Story of a Business Philosophy,” is worth a read.

The brand grew slowly over time, to ultimately become what it is today, with around 130 properties around the world, in dozens of countries. Four Seasons is still growing at a fast pace, so it’s only at the start of its journey.

One other thing I find interesting about Four Seasons is its ownership structure, as it’s not publicity traded. The company is owned 71.25% by Bill Gates (through his Cascade Investment firm), and 23.75% by Al-Waleed bin Talal (through his Kingdom Holding Company).

I think this is one of the reasons that Four Seasons has been able to maintain quality over the years, and focus on the core of the brand, rather than growing at any cost. Publicly traded companies in the US are ruthless when it comes to growth, and will dilute their brand for short term profit. That’s not a trap that Four Seasons has fallen into.

Fair criticisms that exist of the Four Seasons brand

Before I get into my impression of the Four Seasons brand, let me start with mentioning some of the criticisms of Four Seasons that I consider to be fair. Admittedly I’d say these are mostly true for any hotel group with 100+ properties.

For one, there’s inconsistency in terms of the quality of Four Seasons properties, in terms of the hard product. That’s not surprising, since we’re not talking about something like Cheval Blanc or Oetker Hotels, where you have fewer than a dozen properties.

While Four Seasons properties are consistently up to a luxury standard, it goes without saying that there’s going to be a difference between the Four Seasons Miami and the Four Seasons Paris George V. That’s true of any big hotel group, and it’s certainly true of Four Seasons as well.

Not all Four Seasons properties are created equal

I say that because you should never judge a big hotel group based on one hotel — a corporate city hotel and a flagship hotel in a hyper competitive market are never going to be the same. No major hotel group should be judged by a single property.

Along similar lines, Four Seasons properties range in size, but on balance, I wouldn’t consider Four Seasons properties to be boutique. Some Four Seasons properties are on the small side, while others are massive, with hundreds of rooms. So Four Seasons isn’t some bespoke, boutique hotel group, for someone looking for off-the-beaten-path hotels.

Many Four Seasons properties are quite large

I think Four Seasons properties strike a good balance in that regard, as you have some that are more corporate and cookie cutter, while you have others that are historic and charming, and perfectly reflect their locale.

Lastly, of course Four Seasons properties are generally expensive, and they’re probably not going to be the best value properties at their destinations. Over the years, we’ve seen massive inflation to luxury leisure hotel rates. Pricing is of course based on what people are willing to pay, and with how “hot” luxury leisure travel has become, the supply and demand equation has become pretty lopsided.

Luxury leisure hotel rates have gone through the roof over the years

I hardly think this is unique to Four Seasons, but it’s hard to argue that any luxury properties really excel on that front (I mean, just look at the St. Regis Aspen charging $2,500+ per night in ski season).

The areas where the Four Seasons brand excels

Among the big hotel groups, I think Four Seasons is in a league of its own when it comes to the quality of its product and service. It’s amazing that as Four Seasons has grown, the company has still managed to maintain its same commitment to guest experience that it has always had.

I’d say that the single thing that impresses me most about Four Seasons is that the brand offers intuitive and frictionless service, and that comes down to the people. It doesn’t matter which property you stay at, I’ve found service to be more consistently excellent at Four Seasons than at any other major hotel group.

Four Seasons hires people for their personality, and they do a great job retaining their talent (just look at the hotel stay benefits Four Seasons employees get, so they can experience the hotels like any other guest). Four Seasons employees just generally seem happy and friendly, and they’re allowed to be themselves. It’s not canned hospitality, where it feels like employees have a mandate to address you by last name with every spoken sentence (for example, I find Ritz-Carlton to have much more canned service, in general).

Four Seasons does a great job with service consistency

I also find Four Seasons service to be really frictionless and detail oriented. That might sound silly, but at some other hotel groups it just seems like they can’t get things together, to provide a decent experience. I’m talking about everything from quick responses in the Four Seasons mobile chat, to the phone being picked up quickly when calling the operator, to room service orders being correct and prompt. Given the size of some of Four Seasons’ properties, it amazes me that they’re able to maintain that level of quality.

Understandably, many people probably think “but don’t you expect that from a luxury hotel group?” Yes, you would hope… but it doesn’t reflect reality. For example, you won’t find nearly that level of consistency with Marriott’s luxury brands. Some hotels may have great service, while it’s a disaster at others.

Similarly, when things go wrong (it happens!), Four Seasons tends to handle these situations better than most other hotel groups. At some hotel groups, it feels like they really don’t care if things go wrong. Meanwhile if things don’t go right at a Four Seasons property, it’s taken very seriously.

So there’s something really nice about knowing that odds are in your favor in terms of service. Beyond that, there are several little consistencies with Four Seasons that I appreciate. Among other things:

  • The Four Seasons bed is the most comfortable hotel bed out there, in my opinion, and it’s especially nice to have that in destinations not typically known for their comfortable beds
  • Four Seasons properties are spectacularly kids friendly, where it’s not just that they tolerate kids, but warmly welcome them; this includes everything from welcome amenities for kids, to great kids clubs (branded “Kids For All Seasons”)
  • As someone who loves coffee, I appreciate how Four Seasons offers complimentary coffee in the lobby every morning at each property
  • Four Seasons puts a lot of effort into its gyms, and they range from above average to stellar
The Four Seasons bed is spectacularly comfortable

I once heard someone describe Four Seasons as “McDonald’s for rich people.” At first I thought that was some hilarious shade, but the more I thought about it, I actually think it’s not that far off, and is quite the compliment, in a very unusual way.

The thing is, Four Seasons offers a remarkable level of consistency across the globe when it comes to the experience you’re going to have. It might not always be the single best option in a market, but you know you’re going to like the product, and you know exactly what you’re going to get. There’s something to be said for that.

It’s quite a contrast to my St. Regis experiences, for example. I’ll have one amazing stay, with perfect service, and then the next stay will just be terrible. I don’t think you’ll find that level of variability with Four Seasons.

Four Seasons can’t use a loyalty program as a crutch

As someone who is into miles & points, I of course with that Four Seasons had a loyalty program. But I think the company’s conscious decision to not have a loyalty program (despite the big revenue upside) is actually a reflection of the company’s commitment to service.

Let’s be honest, hotels with loyalty programs can use those programs as a crutch, to essentially overcharge people while also giving them a subpar experience:

  • You have a lot more “funnels” with which to fill rooms, and for properties with a lot of points redemptions, it allows the hotels to raise their average daily rate for the rooms they’re actually selling for cash
  • You have a much more brand loyal crowd, because many people will seek out that hotel specifically because they have elite status, because they want to earn points, etc.

So when you see “resort factories” like the St. Regis Aspen and St. Regis Deer Valley that charge $2,500+ per night while providing inconsistent service, they can only get away with that because of their connection to a major loyalty program. That’s why there’s also such an irony to the hotels that try to be cheap with elite guests. While it doesn’t apply to luxury hotels in the same way, I’ve written in the past about mediocre hotels’ loyalty program delusions.

Four Seasons doesn’t have a loyalty program to rely on as a crutch, but instead, it has to win business with every stay independently. The company’s primary method for getting people to book Four Seasons properties is just continuing to deliver on what they promise.

Four Seasons’ lack of a loyalty program is a blessing and curse

Four Seasons’ mission statement is pretty cool

While rather random, a while back I stumbled upon Four Seasons’ mission statement, and I thought it was actually pretty cool. I’ve found most mission statements to be full of puffery, but I actually find Four Seasons’ statement to be quite refreshing and transparent:

Many years ago, Four Seasons set out to create a corporate mission statement that would guide the actions of everyone in the organization. Our goals, beliefs and principles are the foundation of the work we do every day on behalf of our guests.

Who we are

We have chosen to specialize within the hospitality industry by offering only experiences of exceptional quality. Our objective is to be recognized as the company that manages the finest hotels, resorts and residence clubs wherever we locate. We create properties of enduring value using superior design and finishes, and support them with a deeply instilled ethic of personal service. Doing so allows Four Seasons to satisfy the needs and tastes of our discerning customers, and to maintain our position as the world’s premier luxury hospitality company.

What we believe

Our greatest asset, and the key to our success, is our people. We believe that each of us needs a sense of dignity, pride and satisfaction in what we do. Because satisfying our guests depends on the united efforts of many, we are most effective when we work together cooperatively, respecting each other’s contribution and importance.

How we succeed

We succeed when every decision is based on a clear understanding of and belief in what we do, and when we couple this conviction with sound financial planning. We expect to achieve a fair and reasonable profit to ensure the prosperity of the company and to offer long-term benefits to our hotel owners, our customers and our employees.

How we behave

We demonstrate our beliefs most meaningfully in the way we treat each other and by the example we set for one another. In all our interactions with our guests, customers, business associates and colleagues, we seek to deal with others as we would have them deal with us.

Four Seasons has a pretty awesome mission statement

Bottom line

I consider Four Seasons to be the highest quality “big” hotel group out there (in terms of brands with 100+ properties). Of course not all properties are equally spectacular, and Four Seasons also tends to be priced at the top end of the market, at most destinations.

However, what Four Seasons consistently delivers on most is good service, and to me, that’s something that’s really important. Despite the big size of some Four Seasons properties, they consistently deliver friendly, attentive, and frictionless service. I don’t find there to be that level of consistency with any other major hotel group, and I think that’s what makes Four Seasons special, more than anything.

Of course the brand also has some spectacular hotels, and I appreciate the very comfortable beds, lobby coffee in the morning, emphasis on good gyms, etc.

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  1. John Guest

    How many times can @1990 post/comment over and over and over in the same thread?? Curb your newbie enthusiasm young lady.

  2. DTWNYC Guest

    The logo is brilliant. Classic and subtle

  3. yoloswag420 Guest

    I think Four Seasons realistically has been uplifted simply by being North American based originally, which significantly helps uplift its brand recognition.

    A lot of those other luxury brands you named, I doubt an average person would recognize. But Four Seasons has much better market penetration. At the end of the day, luxury hotels are all quite similar in one way or another, it's about making a name for yourself, which Four Seasons has done a great job at.

    1. 1990 Guest

      You can say it… it was Canadian first.

      ‘On guard for thee…’

  4. James Guest

    Super interesting post, thanks. Would love a mention of some of your favorite FS properties, as well as those you’ve heard good things about and hope to try.

  5. Jerry Lang Guest

    My only complaint on Four Seasons is sometimes they are too generic and do not reflect the city they are in, but I do agree with you on the service.

    1. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      It'll be fun when you get to try it sometime, Lang. You know you can simply book one night, right? San Francisco has extremely low fares because it's an undesirable market.

    2. 1990 Guest

      I wouldn’t say it’s undesirable at all; there was a rough patch during the pandemic, but, generally the Bay Area is a prime source of our nation’s modern GDP.

    3. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      the undesirability of San Francisco is debatable. every city has rough spots but SF's (Tenderloin) is smack in the geographic center, which is especially unfortunate

      walkability of SF is also hampered by the elevation

      transit generally sucks and drivers are aggressive despite the bay area not generally having an aggressive reputation.

      I have met some incredibly rude people in SF, far ruder than anything you have seen in the northeast (one possible exception - northeast...

      the undesirability of San Francisco is debatable. every city has rough spots but SF's (Tenderloin) is smack in the geographic center, which is especially unfortunate

      walkability of SF is also hampered by the elevation

      transit generally sucks and drivers are aggressive despite the bay area not generally having an aggressive reputation.

      I have met some incredibly rude people in SF, far ruder than anything you have seen in the northeast (one possible exception - northeast drivers who run into cyclists and then victim-blame the cyclist. I have heard of this happening, although I haven't seen it firsthand, how awful and despicable of a human being do you have to do that? Cancer was invented for these people.)

    4. 1990 Guest

      No, no, no… BART isn’t the MTA but it’s pretty decent for getting around without a car, and has a much better connect to SFO than say our lack of trains to LGA, just sayin…

  6. Andrew Guest

    Minor typo Ben (if you care)

    I of course with that Four Seasons

  7. John Guest

    Well said, Ben. I’d love to see a similar post on Ritz-Carlton, as that’s a brand that frequently seems to price itself around the same level as Four Seasons, but which in my experience isn’t even close to being in the same league as Four Seasons in overall quality. I would have to assume Ritz is buoyed by the Bonvoy program and a healthy inflow of corporate travelers staying on corporate rates, because I can’t...

    Well said, Ben. I’d love to see a similar post on Ritz-Carlton, as that’s a brand that frequently seems to price itself around the same level as Four Seasons, but which in my experience isn’t even close to being in the same league as Four Seasons in overall quality. I would have to assume Ritz is buoyed by the Bonvoy program and a healthy inflow of corporate travelers staying on corporate rates, because I can’t understanding why anyone would look at similarly priced Four Seasons and Ritz-Carltons in virtually any market and choose the latter.

    1. 1990 Guest

      I've got bones to pick with Ritz-Carlton, namely, that they're one of the Marriott affiliated brands that doesn't honor complimentary breakfast for Platinum Elites (and above) at many properties. Kinda lame, no?

    2. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      it's lame, but it's market (as Kirkland attorneys would say)

      Hilton also didn't honor complimentary breakfast at Waldorf-Astoria back when the program honored complimentary breakfast at all downmarket brands.

      I might be an equity partner (we, or should I say they, call them "share" partners) at K&E, hehe. That's one way to get to $10m+ income.

    3. 1990 Guest

      I thought Kirkland was headquartered in Chicago; what’r you supposedly doing in NYC?

  8. Matt Guest

    As a single, childless traveler who hasn't been to a Four Seasons in the last two decades, I have to admit that I instinctively found the description of the Four Seasons' child-friendliness to be a negative. Will I find screaming children running up and down the halls at my next stay?

    1. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      As a single, childless traveler

      Shame on you. Our VP Vance has more info on why childlessness is shameful. You worry about screaming children? I worry about curmudgeon idiotic adults like you. Please don't step foot in any FS hotel and ruin my vacation, kthxbai.

    2. justindev Guest

      @Matt:

      There was nary a child at the properties that I have stayed at.
      But I get it. This is one of the reasons why I disliked Marriott and never stayed at any of its properties when Starwood existed.

    3. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      Every child at a high-end hotel is the child of wealthy parents and therefore very likely to be a future equity partner at a top law firm.

    4. TravelinWilly Diamond

      Gen you're tedious.
      Frankly you need help, code blue.
      You are insane, too.

    5. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      Thank you for mentioning this. It's really wild how people think the rest of us want to interact with their poorly behaved offspring.

      And yes, your child is poorly behaved, too, Linda or Josh. Most of them fat, too.

    6. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      EuropeanTraveler, it's wild how you think anybody wants to interact with you. As an adult.

      TravelinPenis, p*ss off, loser lawyer (non-T14 non-V20)

    7. 1990 Guest

      I’m assuming these are all you, aren’t they?

    8. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      1990, alas that would be a false assumption.

      In the last few days I have commented only as 跟阴茎有关 - I have other dormant handles poised for activation as needed.

      TravelinWilly is 100% not me. He is a loser in Washington DC - a great city but some losers (including the orange one, zing!) - I guess all cities have their share of losers, don't they.

      but, hey, hey, you and I are both in...

      1990, alas that would be a false assumption.

      In the last few days I have commented only as 跟阴茎有关 - I have other dormant handles poised for activation as needed.

      TravelinWilly is 100% not me. He is a loser in Washington DC - a great city but some losers (including the orange one, zing!) - I guess all cities have their share of losers, don't they.

      but, hey, hey, you and I are both in New York City and in fact both in lower Manhattan. I'm probably mere blocks away from you, physically, although I use various technological tools to obfuscate my location from web analytics.

      EuropeanTraveler is also not me. I don't call others fat. I use clinical terms like overweight or obese. I also love kids and hate those who advocate childfree lifestyles with an exception for couples who are infertile or have experienced pregnancy related trauma such as a miscarriage.

    9. 1990 Guest

      Ok, I’ll play along. (Nice ‘Zing!’)

      By the way, what was up with Canal Street this week? Yikes. And seems like nightly gatherings at Foley Square. Lots goin’ on. And early voting starts tomorrow. Wowie.

  9. Super Diamond

    On the topic of $2,500+ night rooms, I'd be curious to see your take on where the industry is going in general. Even formerly cheap cities like Austin, TX have $800 night rooms and it's unfathomable to me that there are that many people out there with that kind of money to spend every single night that they can fill up every single one of these hotels many rooms.

    1. Throwawayname Guest

      There must be people, or at least companies, willing to pay that sort of money for the right location. There's still no shortage of $35 rooms in 4* hotels in Vietnam, Indonesia etc.

    2. 1990 Guest

      (I mean, at $35/night... ya get what ya pay for... oof.)

      When in SE Asia, go for at least $100+/night. Have some self-respect.

    3. Throwawayname Guest

      The deluxe seaview room I stayed in during my last proper visit to an Indonesian island was something like $56 including breakfast and it was absolutely fine. I wouldn't have minded paying a bit more but there really wasn't any reason for that, it was a bit of an 'unusual' destination and we were already in the second most expensive property of the island - the one that was more expensive belonged to an American...

      The deluxe seaview room I stayed in during my last proper visit to an Indonesian island was something like $56 including breakfast and it was absolutely fine. I wouldn't have minded paying a bit more but there really wasn't any reason for that, it was a bit of an 'unusual' destination and we were already in the second most expensive property of the island - the one that was more expensive belonged to an American chain and was selling smaller garden view rooms for $180 without breakfast.

      When doing the SAS challenge I stayed in a perfectly adequate 3* in central Hanoi which at £23 was literally cheaper than a metered taxi from the airport. I would be happy to pay a fair bit more than that for an upscale hotel but I was going to be in town for just 10 hours and only needed a bed and a clean bathroom.

    4. 1990 Guest

      That does sound like a deal. And, assuming the local hotels serve a nice spicy nasi goreng for breakfast, that’d sound like a ‘yum,’ too.

  10. 1990 Guest

    "McDonald's for rich people." Hilarious!

    Regardless, I remain a fan of the brand and many of their properties. We certainly pay for it, though (most are $500-1,500/night for entry-level). While they do not have a 'loyalty' program, I feel like we get better value via Amex FHR for the guaranteed 4PM late checkout, breakfast, property credits, and potential upgrades. They've opened quite a few new properties in the USA (Philly, One Dalton in Boston,...

    "McDonald's for rich people." Hilarious!

    Regardless, I remain a fan of the brand and many of their properties. We certainly pay for it, though (most are $500-1,500/night for entry-level). While they do not have a 'loyalty' program, I feel like we get better value via Amex FHR for the guaranteed 4PM late checkout, breakfast, property credits, and potential upgrades. They've opened quite a few new properties in the USA (Philly, One Dalton in Boston, Minneapolis, Fort Lauderdale, Nashville, Nola, Napa, Montreal, etc.) Glad they are finally reopening the one in Midtown NYC. There are definitely some that are showing their age and need renovation (or to be 'let go.')

    On the history, it is wild how it has gone from a little property in Canada, to global, and backed by Gates and the Saudis. Then again, it's main competitors these days (Aman, One&Only, Raffles, Rosewood, Mandarin Oriental, St. Regis, Waldorf-Astoria, Ritz-Carlton, Park Hyatt, Six Senses) have some 'odd' backers, too (Russians, mainland Chinese, etc.) Lest we analyze the various African-based safari conglomerates (Singita, &Beyond, Wilderness, etc.)

    1. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      Thank you for your super helpful insights. I really looked forward to hearing what you thought about it.

    2. 1990 Guest

      No, no...thank you so very much. I reeeally appreciate your incredible response.

    3. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      Thank you. Everyone on every travel blog is waiting to hear what you and your mental illness think about everything.

      I don't have anything against the unemployed, but maybe get a hobby?

    4. 1990 Guest

      You’re most welcome.

      You first.

    5. Gen Yinjing Youguan Guest

      lol at EuropeanTraveler's shameful ignorance and abhorrent views on:

      children (they are great)

      1990's employment status (he is fatFIRE'd)

    6. 1990 Guest

      That is actually a decent subReddit.

  11. justindev Guest

    I have stayed at several 4 Seasons across the globe. Every one of them provided the service that I was expecting and paid for. Well done.

    Had no idea Bill Gates owned a majority share.

  12. Kiwi Guest

    Their CRM system is simply amazing. At my first FS stay at FS Firenze one morning I mentioned that I am Type 1 Diabetic and would like a diet coke vs the fruit juices they had on offer.

    Every day thereafter one was bought to me with breakfast.

    At my next FS hotel stay in Houston, I know not the same as Firenze, the staff went out of their way to accommodate me without me...

    Their CRM system is simply amazing. At my first FS stay at FS Firenze one morning I mentioned that I am Type 1 Diabetic and would like a diet coke vs the fruit juices they had on offer.

    Every day thereafter one was bought to me with breakfast.

    At my next FS hotel stay in Houston, I know not the same as Firenze, the staff went out of their way to accommodate me without me mentioning anything in advance. Apparently they also track which side of the bed you use so they know where to leave things at turndown and that is then used globally.

    I can't imagine a St Regis, Waldorf Astoria, Regents or Park Hyatt paying this much attention to detail

    1. Throwawayname Guest

      I wonder whether that sort of thing complies with GDPR and equivalent legislation elsewhere. I'm not implying that it doesn't, I genuinely don't know whether it does.

    2. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      Yes, Houston is not the same as Firenze. Thanks for clarifying. And I loved the tale of your diet soda, it was really riveting.

    3. LP Guest

      It's not the CRM system, it's how they are using it. Any other hotel chain could keep similar notes, but they choose not to take the notes and/or not to do anything with them.

  13. Nathan Guest

    Great article, Ben. We were blown away at FS service on a baby moon last year, and were excited to return with our little one this year (FS Singapore) to experience the family friendly environment. Didn't disappoint.

    On a side note - I frequently search (via Google lens) to identify properties shown within articles. Any chance you could reference/link the properties below the photos? The theme of the photo is typically implied depending on...

    Great article, Ben. We were blown away at FS service on a baby moon last year, and were excited to return with our little one this year (FS Singapore) to experience the family friendly environment. Didn't disappoint.

    On a side note - I frequently search (via Google lens) to identify properties shown within articles. Any chance you could reference/link the properties below the photos? The theme of the photo is typically implied depending on the preceding content, and the captions read as filler.

    1. LP Guest

      You can also just view the filename of the photo (IE open it in a separate tab) to see the property name.

    2. TravelinWilly Diamond

      " The theme of the photo is typically implied depending on the preceding content, and the captions read as filler."

      If you're on Windows, right-click the image, do a "save as" and the save as dialogue box will include the name of the property; you don't need to save the image or anything.

  14. Santastico Diamond

    Interesting that most of the things you said that sets Four Seasons apart are not very hard to be done by other hotels:
    1) Bed is the most comfortable hotel bed out there: it is a Beautyrest by Simmons mattress. There is nothing highly innovative about that. All they did was to work with the manufacturer to make a mattress that is indeed very comfortable.
    2) Their properties are spectacularly kids friendly: well,...

    Interesting that most of the things you said that sets Four Seasons apart are not very hard to be done by other hotels:
    1) Bed is the most comfortable hotel bed out there: it is a Beautyrest by Simmons mattress. There is nothing highly innovative about that. All they did was to work with the manufacturer to make a mattress that is indeed very comfortable.
    2) Their properties are spectacularly kids friendly: well, not rocket science as long as you hire and train the staff to deliver that experience.
    3) Four Seasons offers complimentary coffee in the lobby every morning: c'mon!! How is that difficult to do by the hotels? It is not, but Four Seasons puts the effort to do that right instead of nickeling and dimming.
    4) Four Seasons puts a lot of effort into its gyms: again, just buy the right equipment and keep them in good condition

    I love Four Seasons and have been staying at one particular property very often and the quality and service is fantastic. They don't know me by name but every time I check in they have somehow in their system the reason I keep coming back to that specific city all the time. And they ask nice questions related to that reason. Also, back to not nickeling and dimming, they have free bottles of water in the rooms, turn down service every night, great quality toiletries, bed linens, towels, etc... things that you would expect in a nice hotel but many don't provide those and still charge a lot. Now, Four Seasons can be very expensive when compared to other "upscale" properties sometimes so not always it makes sense to stay there.

    1. Throwawayname Guest

      Is the FS bed really better than the Sofitel bed which I always see people raving about and is being sold under the hotel's brand?

      (I can hardly decide whether I like my own mattress so I am the least qualified/relevant person to give an opinion on this)

    2. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      I wish this comment was longer and had fewer linebreaks or proper grammar. Can you tell us more about the little soaps you were talking - at length - about? Or whatabout carpet types? Man, the life you must lead.

    3. 1990 Guest

      Santastico: I got you, fam.

      EuropeanTraveler, for your edification, the essence of Four Seasons' appeal is its consistent mastery of "easy" yet frequently neglected details, transforming them into signature luxury experiences. They avoid "nickel and dimming" by including premium extras like free bottled water and turn-down service, while the Beautyrest bed demonstrates their commitment to high-quality, non-proprietary comfort. This philosophy extends to the "little soaps," which are actually high-end, branded toiletries (like Frédéric Malle or...

      Santastico: I got you, fam.

      EuropeanTraveler, for your edification, the essence of Four Seasons' appeal is its consistent mastery of "easy" yet frequently neglected details, transforming them into signature luxury experiences. They avoid "nickel and dimming" by including premium extras like free bottled water and turn-down service, while the Beautyrest bed demonstrates their commitment to high-quality, non-proprietary comfort. This philosophy extends to the "little soaps," which are actually high-end, branded toiletries (like Frédéric Malle or Diptyque) that offer a tactile and olfactory luxury. Similarly, their use of premium materials like dense woven Axminster carpet in public areas ensures superior aesthetics, sound absorption, and durability. Ultimately, the difference is not in the invention of a new amenity, but in the flawless execution of these costly, quality basics that competitors often omit to cut corners, thereby ensuring a reliably luxurious stay.

      There. Just for you. (Of course I didn’t write this. Thank AI. Waste of electricity.)

  15. MPS in Charlotte Diamond

    Don't underestimate the contribution of *not* having a points-based loyalty program to maintaining consistent, high-quality service. I know this won't be a popular opinion among many on this site, but I strongly believe that a multi-brand rewards program is a big negative factor as far as the quality of a luxury hotel experience is concerned.

    I've generally found the service during my stays at Four Seasons, Langham, and Mandarin Oriental properties to be significantly better...

    Don't underestimate the contribution of *not* having a points-based loyalty program to maintaining consistent, high-quality service. I know this won't be a popular opinion among many on this site, but I strongly believe that a multi-brand rewards program is a big negative factor as far as the quality of a luxury hotel experience is concerned.

    I've generally found the service during my stays at Four Seasons, Langham, and Mandarin Oriental properties to be significantly better than at comparable Park Hyatt, Ritz-Carlton, and similar points properties, specifically because everybody staying there paid actual money to stay there.

    Two consequences: (1) there's sufficient revenue to support the high level of amenities and service provided, and (2) there's not a bunch of guests who are treating their stay as a freebie to be milked after putting in their nights at mid-tier brands and/or dollars on a branded credit card.

    I know there are some rewards programs among these elite chains (e.g., Brilliant by Langham, or the 50-year anniversary Four Seasons program a while back). But these provide upgraded amenities and other perks (and not free hotel nights) for those who have paid for stays only at that chain, not at lower tier hotels, and not for credit card spending.

    1. Richard_ Member

      You also don't get a flood of "I didn't get a free platinum elite breakfast" type comments.

    2. Throwawayname Guest

      A cashback-type programme like Accor's or GHA's doesn't seem to affect quality at any price point.

      Removing those who stay somewhere only because of the points they got from a credit card bonus and/or work travel is not quite a guarantee of a certain level of service; there are some rubbish hotels that would still be rubbish without the affiliation and some great hotels which would be great without the affiliation and that's as...

      A cashback-type programme like Accor's or GHA's doesn't seem to affect quality at any price point.

      Removing those who stay somewhere only because of the points they got from a credit card bonus and/or work travel is not quite a guarantee of a certain level of service; there are some rubbish hotels that would still be rubbish without the affiliation and some great hotels which would be great without the affiliation and that's as true for Ibis as it is for Capella. However, it does keep cash rates better-aligned to what people are actually prepared to pay for staying in that hotel and also helps with keeping expectations realistic.

  16. Nate Guest

    Four Seasons also generally has a greater focus on families with kids than comparably priced properties. All the resorts have a very high end (and included) kid's club, which is not something you will as consistently see at a Ritz or a St. Regis. If kids are in the mix Four Seasons (especially the resorts) is a meaningfully better option compared to something else at the same price point.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Nate -- Great point about how kids friendly Four Seasons properties are. Just updated the post to add that, thanks. Especially now that we're traveling with a family, it's noticeable.

  17. Jack Guest

    Much of what makes Four Seasons distinctive actually started with Regent Hotels, whose founders included Adrian Zecha (along with Robert Burns and Georg Rafael). Many of the things that we think of as Four Seasons standard -- such as buildings with a show-stopping presence, the five-fixture bathroom (with two sinks and a separate shower and tub), all-villa resorts -- were Regent developments. The two groups had a similar focus on service, although Regent more from...

    Much of what makes Four Seasons distinctive actually started with Regent Hotels, whose founders included Adrian Zecha (along with Robert Burns and Georg Rafael). Many of the things that we think of as Four Seasons standard -- such as buildings with a show-stopping presence, the five-fixture bathroom (with two sinks and a separate shower and tub), all-villa resorts -- were Regent developments. The two groups had a similar focus on service, although Regent more from an Asian perspective. The two groups started a marketing alliance, as Four Seasons had very little outside of North America and London (and certainly nothing in Asia), and Four Seasons later acquired Regent. Some of Four Seasons' most distinctive properties -- Sayan in Bali, Chiang Mai, and Istanbul at Sultanahmet -- were Regent projects that Four Seasons finished.

    Issy Sharp always like to talk trash about Adrian Zecha and does not like given Zecha credit for what it contributed to Four Seasons.

    1. Jack Guest

      Also, I thought Issy Sharp's autobiography was terrible and lacking in self awareness. Just so bland. I much preferred Jimmy Sherwood's biography about his life bringing back the Orient Express train and assembling the hotel group --much more insightful and entertaining.

    2. TravelinWilly Diamond

      "Many of the things that we think of as Four Seasons standard...were Regent developments."

      Spot on, the Regents were incredible - The Regent Hong Kong on the Kowloon/East Tsim side of the harbor was world class - I've not stayed there in eons, including after the Intercontinental took it over before the Regent returned.

      The Peninsula in Bangkok on Rajadamri Rd. was the original tenant of what became the Regent, which then because the...

      "Many of the things that we think of as Four Seasons standard...were Regent developments."

      Spot on, the Regents were incredible - The Regent Hong Kong on the Kowloon/East Tsim side of the harbor was world class - I've not stayed there in eons, including after the Intercontinental took it over before the Regent returned.

      The Peninsula in Bangkok on Rajadamri Rd. was the original tenant of what became the Regent, which then because the Four Seasons, which is now the Anantara. Back in the 90s I would always stay at either the Oriental or the Regent, depending on where in the city I needed to be. The Regent was really the only true competitor to the Oriental at the time (though the Sukothai emerged around that time as well, though I never stayed there).

    3. Jack Guest

      The Sukothai, of course, was another Zecha project. In fact, the only project where two of Zecha’s favorite architects, Kerry Hill and Ed Tuttle, collaborated.

  18. TravelinWilly Diamond

    For the last two years of trips to San Francisco, I've planted myself at Four Seasons on Market Street. Great staff across the board, especially those at the front and concierge desks. Last Christmas I was sitting in the lobby cooling my heels when LeBron James walked by (with a handler/security guard(?), followed a couple of minutes later by the entire LA Lakers team. I didn't know who they were at the time until I...

    For the last two years of trips to San Francisco, I've planted myself at Four Seasons on Market Street. Great staff across the board, especially those at the front and concierge desks. Last Christmas I was sitting in the lobby cooling my heels when LeBron James walked by (with a handler/security guard(?), followed a couple of minutes later by the entire LA Lakers team. I didn't know who they were at the time until I told a friend of mine, who knew they were in town for a game that day. So you may have brushes with greatness there, too.

    Overall, consistently great experiences with FS, whether at Buenos Aires or Chicago or San Francisco or Singapore.

    Sydney...not so much, but aside from the Park Hyatt, Sydney doesn't seem to do luxury hotels very well, and even the PH has suffered a bit since Marc von Arnim left for the Capella a few years ago.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Yeah, Sydney is interesting in that many of its hotels are older. Still, some decent options. I recently visited and redeemed a Hyatt Cat 1-4 certificate for the InterContinental. Better than cash. I will say, the Crown Sydney (the new skyscraper built in 2020) is on Amex FHR and is rather luxurious.

      As to San Francisco, New York, and Boston, it is interesting how each has two Four Seasons, a somewhat newer and a somewhat...

      Yeah, Sydney is interesting in that many of its hotels are older. Still, some decent options. I recently visited and redeemed a Hyatt Cat 1-4 certificate for the InterContinental. Better than cash. I will say, the Crown Sydney (the new skyscraper built in 2020) is on Amex FHR and is rather luxurious.

      As to San Francisco, New York, and Boston, it is interesting how each has two Four Seasons, a somewhat newer and a somewhat older location. Like, in SF, the Embarcadero location used to be the Loews and before that the Mandarin Oriental. Good views on the upper floors if a clear day.

    2. TravelinWilly Diamond

      "Like, in SF, the Embarcadero location used to be the Loews and before that the Mandarin Oriental."

      We must have overlapped in a previous life. I used to stay at the MO in SF on Sansome street in the 90s - couldn't beat the views, but the location left a bit to be desired if one is there on a family vacation or the like. But the walk from the main tower to the other tower was jaw-dropping with the views from the walkways...

    3. 1990 Guest

      For real. Those 'bridges' with the floor to ceiling windows are epic. And most of the rooms have great views, too. While the other FS is newer, the old MO definitely may be a favorite because of the view. (It doesn't really have good dining on-site, though. Eh, ya win some, ya lose some.)

    4. Hi Waitress Guest

      Yeah, the SF FS rates would be in your league. They were below 300 a night for a long stretch of time. You fit in well there.

  19. pstm91 Diamond

    Great write up, Ben. It's amazing to me that, for a company of it's size, can deliver such consistently great service. That's not to say that there can be a huge variance between its properties (I've had a few awful stays over the years), but overall, it is incredibly consistent.
    The biggest knock on FS to me is that a huge number of its properties are very generic, with no real sense of place...

    Great write up, Ben. It's amazing to me that, for a company of it's size, can deliver such consistently great service. That's not to say that there can be a huge variance between its properties (I've had a few awful stays over the years), but overall, it is incredibly consistent.
    The biggest knock on FS to me is that a huge number of its properties are very generic, with no real sense of place other than some touches here and there. But I think that also speaks to what it does well - you know what you're going to get. It's great for people who do not want to venture outside of their comfort zone.
    With that said, of course they have some iconic properties as well.
    One other thing they deserve huge praise for is their website. They have by far the best site of any hotel brand period - both the public site and the preferred partner site. It's another level, especially with the info they provide and ease to use.

  20. Schlueter Guest

    I appreciate and agree with your analysis. The consistent high quality service across properties is remarkable. And as someone who wakes up early, I appreciate the coffee in the lobby. A small thing but a nice touch.

    1. 1990 Guest

      I've found most IHG Kimpton properties do a nice morning coffee in the lobbies, too. (Usually 'drip' but relatively good quality.) Any brand/property that does that is 'alright' in my book.

  21. Harold Guest

    Pretty revolutionary that Chase has essentially made Four Seasons now bookable with points via the Edit at 2cpp (most but not all properties included)

    Great for those of us who can’t afford cash stays here but still want to enjoy the service

    1. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      But maybe less great for everyone else? There's a certain clientele of Americans who gets a ton of points buying TV dinners and then using them to worsen the experience for the rest of us.

      You're not Four Seasons material and trust me, we know.

    2. 1990 Guest

      EuropeanTraveler, and are you? BestWesternPlus, perhaps? No, more Ibis!

    3. EuropeanTraveler Guest

      Honey, thanks for reminding me why we have our waiters spit in American guests' food.

      And you can't do anything about it. There's no MUH LITIGATION. You can take your fat selves, your loud voices, your lisping Miami p*dos called Chrysler (who only want to adopt boys, somehow). There's just ... exclusion and bye bye.

      And disease. Which we actively cheer when we can get you.

      Also, enjoy this moment. People like you don't really get to speak to like me in real life.

    4. 1990 Guest

      Ain’t that a peach. As they say in the South: ‘Bless your heart.’

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1990 Guest

Santastico: I got you, fam. EuropeanTraveler, for your edification, the essence of Four Seasons' appeal is its consistent mastery of "easy" yet frequently neglected details, transforming them into signature luxury experiences. They avoid "nickel and dimming" by including premium extras like free bottled water and turn-down service, while the Beautyrest bed demonstrates their commitment to high-quality, non-proprietary comfort. This philosophy extends to the "little soaps," which are actually high-end, branded toiletries (like Frédéric Malle or Diptyque) that offer a tactile and olfactory luxury. Similarly, their use of premium materials like dense woven Axminster carpet in public areas ensures superior aesthetics, sound absorption, and durability. Ultimately, the difference is not in the invention of a new amenity, but in the flawless execution of these costly, quality basics that competitors often omit to cut corners, thereby ensuring a reliably luxurious stay. There. Just for you. (Of course I didn’t write this. Thank AI. Waste of electricity.)

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<strong>G</strong>en you're tedious. <strong>F</strong>rankly you need help, code blue. <strong>Y</strong>ou are insane, too.

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justindev Guest

@Matt: There was nary a child at the properties that I have stayed at. But I get it. This is one of the reasons why I disliked Marriott and never stayed at any of its properties when Starwood existed.

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