Is This What Planes Will Look Like In The Future?

Aircraft technology sure has come a long way over the years. Planes are able to fly longer distances more fuel efficiently than ever before, and that’s awesome.

But fundamentally we haven’t actually seen any radical design changes to commercial planes, at least aesthetically. Like, the wings are next to the fuselage, and the engines are typically on the wings (back in the day three engine planes often had an engine on top of the fuselage, but that’s not the case anymore for any major planes in production).

While we’ve seen all kinds of crazy prototypes over the years of what planes could look like in the future, my assumption is typically that they’re made by 11 year old aviation geeks in Paint, without much thought put into the science.

Well, one airline is backing a radically different aircraft design, which I can’t help but share here.

The “Flying V” concept

TU Delft in the Netherlands is working on a “Flying V” concept, and KLM is providing support (including financing) for this project.

The intention is that this radically new aircraft design would be highly energy efficient and be able to operate ultra long haul flights. As you can see, the aircraft’s design integrates the passenger cabin, cargo hold, and fuel tank, into the wings, which is what creates the shape.

The plane could carry 314 passengers, and they say that this design would use 20% less fuel than the Airbus A350, which is otherwise one of the most efficient planes out there.

Here’s a short video about the concept:

The plane would be 55 meters long and have a wingspan of 65 meters. So the wingspan would be the same as the A350, while the plane would be significantly shorter.

Because of this, they say the plane could use the same infrastructure at airports, including gates, runways, and hangars.

A small prototype is expected to fly in October 2019, though that will be just a tiny scale model of what the full plane would look like.

Dr. Roelof Vos, project leader at TU Delft, had the following to say:

“The Flying-V is smaller than the A350 and has less inflow surface area compared to the available amount of volume. The result is less resistance. That means the Flying-V needs less fuel for the same distance.”

Could we ever see this plane flying?

Obviously I’m no aircraft engineer or rocket scientist, so this is just my take. When I first saw this concept, my assumption was that it was a cool idea that could work in theory, but that it’s also a gimmick, and that KLM was behind this project because it makes them look good to be investing in the future.

But the more I look at the details, the more this doesn’t seem that crazy. In particular, the fact that airport infrastructure wouldn’t have to change much is something working in favor of this.

Still, for something so radically different, I can’t even imagine how much money would be going into the design of the plane, and how much funding would be required. While a 20% decrease in fuel burn is good, I’m not sure the savings there are enough to warrant the amount of money that would go into something like this.

The other big issue is that even if the science works out, I wonder if this could actually be certified to fly. In other words, is this type of concept as safe when it comes to emergency evacuations as a traditional plane? My inclination is no, but I of course could be wrong.

What do you think — will we ever see something like the “Flying-V” concept in the skies?

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Peter Thomas Guest

Flying wings have been flown for many decades, since even long before the WW2 era... SINCE THE 1910's !!! (Hugo Junkers, 1910 patent!) We just don't commonly know about them because they were mostly military designs, and associated with secret weapons programs, and part of the earliest "stealth" aircraft programs...smooth, barn swallow shape, plywood laminate with carbon black mixed into the glue to absorb radar....before that was even the word for it. The Germans had made deep advances just before the end of the war that the U.S. was fortunate to not really come up against, because the war was over before significant numbers of the German Ho stealth craft .. (jet-powered and basically invisible to radar. zoiks!) could be made combat-ready...and then the U.S. copied and studied the German craft to make an almost identical craft, and that design informs much of the B2 Spirit stealth bomber to this day. Some flying wings have been vast, like... almost Spruce Goose vast... and some are neat little flyers. https://youtu.be/xSdSnxt_WHs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YB-49 https://images.app.goo.gl/3Cvfb9fmLBU1K7k78

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RogerT Guest

I'm not an aero nut by any means, however as per the outter wing passenger seating issue, how about placing the luggage and other non-human materials in the extreme locations on the wings, place the humans in the central area. Put cameras along the outter edges of the plane and screens inside for people to "look outside of the plane". I'm sure they can find a decent perspective that looks close to actually having a "window seat" and other perspectives to allow zooming in on the ground or tuning into a movie / netflix / news / youtube / whatever. Worst case scenario -- outter wing passengers are "lower class" and required to remain seat-belted at all times. Keep in mind.. they want this plane to go the speed of sound. That makes for shorter flights. It takes 6 hours to cross the US now. Assuming it gets times similar to the concorde it would take about 3 hours and 55 minutes to cross the US. Also assuming of course that speed of sound is the normal fuel efficient cruise speed. Interesting design.

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H2s Guest

Low survivability in a crash compared to cigar fuselage ac. Tons of maint issue especially the high engines like l1011-dc-10. Design aspects could have been squashed by 2 year a&p mech

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Phil Guest

Me and some of my fellow aero engineering undergraduates looked at almost precisely this sort of concept *30* years ago. ...all the downsides listed above but, since we were *aero* engineers, what put us off was that the low aspect ratio led to poor (subsonic) aero efficiency and difficult control dynamics, especially at lower speeds (the sort that made Concorde 'entertaining' to land). And in the case of this design, the high-mounted engines would make it more difficult for ground crew to get to the maintenance access panels...with underwing engines, they can get on a ladder or the back of a truck to reach the engines rather than having to get a cherrypicker out on to the apron.

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UpperDeckJohnny Guest

This design has been around for 20+ as said. Then, it was also muted that the internals would be: 5 aisles, I think it was 22 across! and Tv screens for windows in the centre seats. Avgeeks better than I will know that this concept is already in production in first or business in the latest revamp of an airline, but I can't remember which one. Maybe SQ. I also agree, as a former FA, that evacuation would be problematic, since the rules state that 90 seconds must be achieved through half the exits, ie one side. I wouldn't like to be seated in the window seat on the banned exit side! Long way across to the exit. If it had any legs, Boeing, who I believed first muted it, would probably be in production now, or at least flying prototypes in "test", viz the military!

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